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LILYGIRL
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posted July 31, 2005 07:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I keep reading that Pluto in 8th house is supposed to confer some degree of fervent house-on-fire sexual enthusiam but I'm sorry the person I know can live without sex for years. His is Pluto in Virgo 1 degree House 8. Is it the Virgo contributing to the low sex drive or his Venus Square Neptune (one of very few hard aspects in his chart I might add...)


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posted July 31, 2005 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for running_bull     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't say the Virgo influence leads to a low sex drive.
I've known Virgo's who exhibit their high sex drive in other ways (guess how ), while experiencing year's long periods where they have no partner and seemingly no desire to have one. I chalk it up to a weird Virgo thing.

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LILYGIRL
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posted July 31, 2005 07:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"....while experiencing year's long periods where they have no partner and seemingly no desire to have one. I chalk it up to a weird Virgo thing..."

Thanks. Cool. That's what I meant years long periods....

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hot_ice
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posted July 31, 2005 09:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend's got pluto in 8th,and he hasnt even liked a girl...ever...weird!

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sthenri
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posted August 01, 2005 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it takes the right partner to loosen him up, and live with him. The virgo is day to day and likes to live with someone, I have pluto in virgo in the 10th so I really don't even start to loosen up until I am practically living with the person.

I knew one with virgo in the 7th and he went without sex for years but when we lived together was crazy for it, and masturbated all the time, (gemini) something about domestic life?

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astro junkie
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posted August 12, 2005 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
esthenri -

Remember how we talked about the "chase" between Venus & Pluto in one's Natal? You were the one who brought that to my attention since I've practiced celibacy frequently in my life, and I've got Venus & Pluto in Virgo (in the 4th to boot). So that their was almost a cyclical "stalemate" occuring with me.


LILYGIRL -

Does this Pluto in Virgo person also have Venus in Virgo like me? Natasha explained it much better.

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pidaua
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posted August 12, 2005 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha and AJ both have a point.

I have Pluto in Virgo conjuncting my Ascendant in the 1st house (I also have Saturn in Taurus in the 8th).

For me, I can go long periods without sex, even though I am a sexual person. It takes the right person to bring it out of me - or more specifically, the right relationship.

When I am involved with someone that I am crazy about, I am very physical - it is as though the relationship opens up a well of physical desire. I can also be easily repulsed if the person does things that I find to be gross or crude (Saturn in the 8th). It can put me right back into that celebate state of mind.

At the same time, if a partner uses sex against me and holds it over my head - I get angry and resentful. I have been in that situation before where a partner dictated when we would have sex or if he was at all perturbed at me he would cut me off. He did it on purpose as a control measure, not because he couldn't perform. It led to me having great feelings of distrust and resentment toward him- leading to our eventual break up.

LOL..I almost sound like a dude huh?

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posted August 12, 2005 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in Virgo in the 7th house thats me, and I must admit I can go long with out sex if I have no one special to do it with. It bothers me from time to time. But when I am with someone I want it all the time and I am very sensual about it especially if it is with someone that I feel deep chemistry with..

My lil ones dad Virgo in Venus and Pluto in Venus in the 4th house. A big freak was always hot.. So I do not know..

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moonshine
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posted August 12, 2005 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in Virgo in 3rd/4th and venus in Virgo in 3rd. I can easily go for long periods without sex. In fact I dont even crave it unless I have a crush on someone or am seeing someone. And even then I am easily turned off if they do or say something that I dont like.

*edit: I also have moon opposition venus and moon opposition pluto - wonderful qualities that are sure to keep me single for ever

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 12, 2005 04:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well this is very interesting. I too have Pluto in Virgo, 3 degrees in the 9th House. I can go forever without sex but I think about it constantly. LOL. Chalk that up to Aries conjunct Eros in Mars 4th house (I mean not to be sexist but that placement seems so guy) & Taurus Venus in the 5th (romance, love struck goddess syndrome).

This person I know who has Virgo Pluto in the 8th doesn't even seem to care. Cool as a cucumber dill sandwich, that one.

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posted August 12, 2005 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well...
I wanted to chime in a bit.
My Pluto is in Libra..
I only have Eros and Psyche in Virgo, in the second house. My eighth house is Pisces, but it hasn't a planet.
I can't really go long periods without. I get grumpy and moody, and as soon as I get it, I am better. I can literally feel it vibrate through my body. I am horny all the time, especially in circumstances where I probably shouldn't be... ( Pixie with the glazed look on her face)
Sometimes of course, like anyone else.. I don't feel like it.. but I can usually be convinced.

Years and years ago.. more years.. so long ago... when I was without a steady partner, I'd have friends who'd help me out.. if you know what I mean. I guess it would be a mutual help.

Maybe I am limiting myself to say I 'can't' be celibate.. I think if it is a conscious choice, for growth, then maybe I could.. but I don't think I am wired that way.
I am basically a fourteen year old boy in a woman's body.
(Sun/Mars/Uranus Scorpio, Venus/Neptune in Sagittarius, fifth house)

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posted August 12, 2005 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm my 8th house is empty, but I have Mars Conjunct Venus in Aries - 5th House

I also have Mercury conjunct Eros in Pisces.

Romance is always on my mind, action in that department is not though...

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Touchstone
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posted August 12, 2005 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in Virgo in the 8th house and can happily go without it. It's not on my list of priorities in life. I'm more tactile and affectionate than sexual and I guess also a bit of a prude. I'm easily put off.

I live in my head and my fantasies are alive and well but that's it. Pluto aspects:

Pluto 29 degrees Virgo (8th) square Venus 0.5 degrees Cancer (5th).

Pluto 29 degrees Virgo (8th) square Mercury 27 degrees Gemini (5th).

Pluto 29 degrees Virgo (8th) square Jupiter 5 degrees Capricorn (12th).

My hubby is similarly not fussed either. His Pluto is in Virgo in the 6th house. He expends all his energy at work (Mars in 10th) and comes home shattered so likes to use the 'too tired' excuse.

We're still very happy though.


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moonshine
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posted August 12, 2005 07:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I was like you Pix.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 12, 2005 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Moonshine..
how about this?
If you WANT to be more sexual... not if someone else wants you to be, but if YOU want to be..
then start there.. it can be a conscious thing.
Be pleasurable.
See pleasure where you'd normally not.
Embrace the sensual.. the everyday things that comfort have an element of sensuality to them....
a hot steamy fragrant bubble bath.... it is a way to calm and prepare mentally and physically. Take it to the next level.
Walk barefoot.
Prepare delicious meals for friends and lovers.
Really eat your food. Take your time, savour.
Make time.
Dress in fabrics that feel good.
Make yourself sexy.


I am not the most comfortable in my skin, with my body.. I am not perfect.. but I love how it makes me feel when I let it. I am proud of it and what I accomplish.
I want to please my body. I want to share with others, especially one I love.
If you want it, be it.
Start tweaking your brain to respond to regular things with more vibrancy.
Just a thought.

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pidaua
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posted August 12, 2005 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonshine,

Pixie has a great point. It has to be "in" you and something you feel comfortable with.

Even though I can go long periods without sex, I still WANT it... it is something that is inside of me and very important. I just have the ability to direct my energy on other things.. I do find though, that as I get older, sex is more important to me and it has to be great sex. I am also becoming a bit more....umm....adventurous you might say in that I am not as worried about some taboos as I was when I was younger.

Pluto on the Asc seems to do two things 1) make a person overly sexual and give the urge to want to merge as much as possible and 2) have amazing self-control NOT to have sex.. throw in that nutty Saturn in the 8th and hopefully I have found a balance.

LOL..

Pixie.. as always you are my idol.... in my past I had a few ex-bf's that seemed to help me out...LOL... instead of trying someone new (and having to go through the whole getting to know that thing) I would recycle... LMAO.. bad Archer

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 12, 2005 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AJ

Sorry I forgot to answer your question. No I think it's Leo Venus?. I have to check. Cap moon or rising.

I love that 14 year old boy trapped...sounds like me. LOL.

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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 12, 2005 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
"....while experiencing year's long periods where they have no partner and seemingly no desire to have one. I chalk it up to a weird Virgo thing..."

My ex cappy has virgo in the 8th house. I can agree on this one.

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Duality
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posted August 13, 2005 12:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it can't be the Pl in Virgo because Pl stayed in that sign for what? 15 yrs at least? That's like hundreds of millions of people have it.

I also have Pl in virgo in 8th (conj Ur) squaring Venus, merc, mars and sun (gem) and opposing Moon (pisces). I can also go for yrs w/o although I am very sexual and always have been.
No matter how much I want it, I have stronger interests that interfer - Not wanting flings, not wanting someone to take advantage of me or risk a desease.

And I am so much a gemini, would you believe that?

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astro junkie
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posted August 13, 2005 01:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie -

I've read somewhere long ago that if Scorpio's don't have sex relatively regularly, they can actually become physically sick. When I read that it was something I could relate to, but only after I was mature enough to even start having sex.

It interested me as well because I have my Mercury, Mars & Neptune in Scorpio. A healthy mind has to pick between either going with the sex, or going without. How do I balance my Virgo & 6th House issues with my Scorpio energies you ask?

Well, as it turns out, when I practice celebacy, I'm able to channel the "urge" into a spiritually rich life, via the unconscious and transformative Scorpio tendencies.

When I'm into the sex, my Virgo in the 4th tendencies are to start building a nest. This has made it MANDATORY that sex be meaningful in some way, even if it means just having fun - I'll dive in head first into whatever the essence of the sex stands for at the moment ...

So if it's just for fun, I'll let the freak out. If it's for love, I'm nurturing to the max. If it's for companionship, I'm able to create a bit of space and freedom. Whatever the essence is, I become very focused that way. As long as I have a partner willing to explore as well, I'm happy. I don't like "ruts" or "boring sex" because it makes me feel like I HAVE to hold back my 100% focus.

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posted August 15, 2005 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto (in Libra) in the 8 th house, Virgo on the cusp of the 8th.

I can go happily for years without sex and sometimes I think I don't need anyone at all and am a lot better alone but that's until I fall in love!
Then I make up for all the lost time

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