posted August 12, 2005 05:06 AM              

I am okay - being challenged of course, but then why wouldnt I being a Scorpio.........not the easiest of signs. I always laugh when I hear blokes saying "ooohhh I would love a Scorpio woman......of course they is a thinking of all that lovely sex, but OMG there is a price to pay LOL!!

How are you then man, did you release yourself from that Pisces gal and have you had any luck yourself on the romance front.......I hope everything is okay with you and it is good to see you back........missed your posts!

Love

posted August 12, 2005 05:10 AM              

Love to you

posted August 12, 2005 05:12 AM              

I am okay - being challenged of course, but then why wouldnt I being a Scorpio.........not the easiest of signs. I always laugh when I hear blokes saying "ooohhh I would love a Scorpio woman......of course they is a thinking of all that lovely sex, but OMG there is a price to pay LOL!!

How are you then man, did you release yourself from that Pisces gal and have you had any luck yourself on the romance front.......I hope everything is okay with you and it is good to see you back........missed your posts!

Love

posted August 12, 2005 06:55 AM              

Yeah, I'm good thanks - still swimming but all alone - less risk of being eaten , than when in a group! - even a small one ha ha

She's still around but only because I work with her, which is not all that nice anymore, especially after she moved back in with the X before running off with someone else completely - nice girl!!! but hey she's totally innocent in all this!!! ha ha

You know I was with a Scorpio for about 2 years a wee while ago now though. She was magnificently beautiful and very sexy - and yes the sex was good, very good infact ha ha
but the sting still came - LOL

Your not all evil or horrid really XX

posted August 12, 2005 07:55 AM              

As for your Scorpio one, was she very difficult to live with? I am asking cos I am interested to see things from the other side of the coin (dont always wanna ask the husband, cos he is too honest LOL)!!

No seriously tho, if youre up for talking about her, how did the sting manifest? Was it a deadly one? If you dont wanna discuss, no prob Viper, would understand x

Great to talk with you

Love

posted August 12, 2005 08:19 AM              

The Scorp. No she was actually easy to live with to be honest, very warm and affectionate and wonderfully Hmmmm....in bed LOL

Funnily enough the sting was rather similar to the Pisces one recently, as miss fish has Moon in Scorp too!!!!!

Maybe it's all me - I must be naturally drawn to that type of female and in essence create my own problems by atracting them? oh dear - there really is no hope - I'm doomed to a life of missery and isolation - oh well - sh*t happens )

No she was a young Scorp at the time 23 or 4 I think - gawd that sounds awful, makes me sound really old - ha ha ha

I think it was more a case of her wanting to progress in her career and I obviously didn't fit into that part of her life - even though we had similar jobs - the end had something to do with her getting involved with a colleauge and somehow failing to mention it to me for a few months!

It's funny. When I was about 14 I think i hurt someone who wanted a relationship with me, but I didn't with her so nothing happened but I felt really bad about it and vowed to myself I would never hurt anybody ever again - is daft I know but I never have.

If I'm with someone, then I'm with them. No matter what, I don't run off with someone else or behind their back or anything. It's just not me.

Which is probabaly why I am very selective about who I get involved with - anyway, I don't think most people can come to terms with that and automatically assume I would be playing the field? so do it themselves just incase. Beats me, is quite upsetting at times! and really disrespectful if nothing else.

Oh well, anyway back to the point. So there's me, doing the loyalty thing yet in the most part, not all because that would be a lie, there were a couple of nice ones who I still bump into now and again and we are still friends, but the majority all have cheated? Must be something I do - or don't as the case may be ha ha ha

Bugger eh?

posted August 12, 2005 02:16 PM              

You're mom sounds like she's living her life through her kids and you're feeling the pressure. I would haaaate to be perceived as smothering from my children. I bet you are reluctant to share intimate details with your mom for fear of her too close involvement and hanging on your every word. I hear you~ and I'm so glad you shared because it gives me a different perspective on my own relationship with my daughter.

As far as cancerrg is concerned, I totally read something different from him. I honestly believe his heart was in the right place. But nonetheless, I'm sorry you were offended. Cancerrg is from a totally different place, not only geographically, religiously & culturally...but this is a culture who still support arranged marriages. So I guess it's safe to say, India is somewhat behind in Women's Lib issues.

posted August 12, 2005 03:53 PM              

Here is what I wrote

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And amazingly enough, motherhood has turned out to be a consuming, passionate, intense state of being. The picture of motherhood that I carried in my head (which must have had soemthing to do with my own mother who was kind of removed, emotionally) has nothing in common with the reality of it at all. It's so intense, like a love affair! Loving a child is like being in love, only better. Even though I couldn't have felt cooler to the idea of motherhood when I was in my twenties, now I couldn't feel more excited about it.

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And here is what your replied

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my mom is kind of like this she is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo emotionally involved in us that its horribly suffocating, i just want to get away but i cant sometimes she will even follow me to the bathroom, i understand her wanting to be with us, becoz we're all she has left she has no man and refuses to date, but its too much, im not that clingy, and im more freedom loving, and sometimes i think the mother child relationship imprisons women in a way, im not degrading it at all, its a beautiful noble thing, but so much selflessness that that selflessness consumes you, its scary, and my mom is soooooooo dependent on all of us its scary too, a little too loving i would say,

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How the hell did you get from here to there, if I may ask??

Don't jump to conclusions about the subtext of what people write just so that it neatly confirms your own prejudices...

As my kids could attest, there are many times when I am infinitely more interested in my computer than in fixing dinner on time, and I am notoriously ungracious when bedtime is being violated and they keep popping up again and again long after I wanted them to be asleep and they thus cut into my precious SACRED time I have for myself in the evening.

Obviously, a cloying imbalanced mother (in your case) can create as much dammage in a child as can an emotionally cold and distant mother (in my case).

But in a better case scenario, what a mother feels in her heart vis-a-vis her child doesn't need to translate into compulsive inappropriate behavior. It certainly doesn't in this family.

Obviously, you were really injured by your mother's behavior, and that's terrible, and I do hope you'll get over that eventually, but I tell you right now, if you ever want to have a fulfilling relationship with anyone you have to be able to wrap your brain around the idea that it's possible to love someone passionately and unconditionally without suffocating them at the same time.

Believe me, it can be done.

Love

posted August 12, 2005 04:01 PM              

Cancerrg -- you are such a Cancer! When I was younger, guys like you made me scream in frustrated anger, much like SGA today. But now that I am older and wiser, I happen to agree with you. Which is why I stick to water, earth and fire signs, and keep my fingers off the air signs (and it ain't difficult either )

But: there is a caveat, Cancerrg - some people do find their happiness in pure freedom, and they do blossom like that, creative types for example who live for their art. But you can tell when it's genuine and when it's a reaction. You can tell if someone is fulfilled and happy in their freedom, or if someone espouses a life style out of anger and resentment. (Need I say more?)

posted August 12, 2005 04:06 PM              

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As my kids could attest, there are many times when I am infinitely more interested in my computer than in fixing dinner on time, and I am notoriously ungracious when bedtime is being violated and they keep popping up again and again long after I wanted them to be asleep and they thus cut into my precious SACRED time I have for myself in the evening.

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Thank you for speaking MY mind for me.

posted August 13, 2005 03:33 AM              

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How the hell did you get from here to there, if I may ask??

Don't jump to conclusions about the subtext of what people write just so that it neatly confirms your own prejudices...

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I wasnt attacking your motherhood style, but the love affair phrase reminded me of my mother, and that is where i went off, on a personal rant. I dont know you and have no questions regarding your parenthood abilities. im just known around here also for ranting about my mother at every opportunity and at places where there arent opportunities.

maybe i should have replied without quoting you, it would have been clear that i am replying off of a whim and not in response to what you wrote. the phrase u used triggered a sort of memory , which is what i went of on, it had zero percent to do with you or your kids.

i resent being called prejudiced, i have my opinions but not my prejudices, i am always open to everything, and i admire mothers, because i think it is so much pain and love you go through, to be so strong, so strong that i could possibly never be. my mother may drive me crazy but i love her to death and would give my life for her if i had to. in any case i think i got you angry which is why u called me prejudiced. i will remember not to reply to your posts in the future as to not make you angry.

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if you ever want to have a fulfilling relationship with anyone you have to be able to wrap your brain around the idea that it's possible to love someone passionately and unconditionally without suffocating them at the same time.

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yes i havent had a 'fulfilling relationship'....i do love someone passionately and unconditionally at this time, i dont think i suffocate him as he doesnt even love me, and doesnt speak to me everyday either, or even every week, i dont even call or email him ,so i dont see how i suffocate him. i dont think you know my relationship history so once again i dont know how you would conclude that i suffocate.

in any case, it is well my delinquencies as a complete person that make me and others unhappy.

perfect example is this forum,

anyways i am leaving for vacation this week,

next week i shall be more peaceful and less emotional, and my apologies for all the people i seem to have offended. i dont think i should have posted in this thread seeing that i dont share the common experience that all you lovely ladies do. how could i speak about something when i dont have the knowledge? it is a lesson difficult to learn but well learnt.

also apologies to cancerrg, i dont need to read ur reply, but i think u will post one to me, nonetheless you are entitled and i will read it when i come back.

meanwhile good luck/best wishes to all.

posted August 13, 2005 01:55 PM              

Your comments about how marriage has not fully satisfied you made me think if you had any Aquarius/11th House/Uranus Aspects with your marriage partners. If not, I'm thinking, study the Charts of future interests and find some Synastry Aspects which allow for just that little sense of independence you seem to need. Maybe you're holding back for some reasons. Maybe because of societal/familial expectations. You want to fill a role rather than fulfill yourself, type thing.

I've never been married because of the same reasons, but now I'm more willing because I've run across more independent souls like me. Now I'm just afraid of marriage because of the financially legal binds and technically legal chaos it can create. But not as afraid of marriage when it comes to committment and duty - IF it's with the right person.

cancerrg & SecretGardenAgain -

I just want to try to blast another one of those misunderstandings when it comes to Signs which are often associated with detachment in relationships.

Even if you have a Triple Gemini dating another Triple Gemini (or fill in whichever Sign you wish) - once they've established a strong strong bond with one another, stability, committment and devotion are still COMPLETELY possible and probably even likely. It's not the attitude of each individual Sign itself as much as what their energies TOGETHER bring about. TOGETHER being the operative word.

When two people really want to be together, when they are not hurting anyone else or themselves, LOVE IN FULL BLOOM is fully possible. Kids, marriage, ruts - the whole shabang.

Love is amazing that way.

posted August 13, 2005 01:59 PM              

I didn't read this whole thread. I just saw it for the first time.

I just wanted to say:

Pregnant women are allowed to call their husbands anything they please (within reason, and A-Hole was probably within reason ), while pregnant.

posted August 13, 2005 02:01 PM              

Whatever signs the couple hold, it can still be extremely "on the edge stuff"........I know I have been married three times LOL!

Love to all

posted August 13, 2005 02:44 PM              

He irritates the crap out of me lately~ My emotions are all juiced up right now.

Last night I thought I would divorce the fckr.. and it was over something so minor. Pheww..I think I need space.

Sue g, 3 times? May I ask how long were each of them? Also, when you went into each marriage did you think "this is the one" or were they more like.. compulsive afterthoughts like mine was

Also, how old were you for each and were there any major transits during the beginning and ending of each marriage?

posted August 13, 2005 04:02 PM              

Hope you are feeling better - I also feel like a demon woman of late ha ha!!! Cant even stand to here myself breathe!!!

Well my first marriage was at age 20, drifted into that one, childhood sweethearts, ended when I was 24, we both met others! We were Scorpio and Libra doomed!

The second was when I was 30, wait for it, we lived together as man and wife for only 5 or 6 months, but we had lived together for 8 years!!
I married him cos he kept asking me, and in the end I got fed up and thought "ah sure why not" and then in his true weird style got all f***** up about it We were Scoprio and Aquarius doomed!

Dont know about transits going on then, but I know I wouldnt entertain marrying anyone again if this one didnt work out (Ive been with my man for 16 years, married for nearly 8). Got thro the 7 year itch, so here to the next 7 yrs of glorious marriage!!! I have been told repeatedly that he is the one, although after 2 divorces you reserve judgement! I am the love woman ha ha ha!!!

Phew I am nearly catching up with Mrs Burton or as my Dad likes to call me Elizabeth Taylor. There is NO WAY dad I am having 8 husbands, 3 is enough...........for now LOL !!

Love to you lovely

posted August 14, 2005 12:31 AM            

Onto what was just written, I wonder what sign marries the least. Also, it would be interesting to find out what sign gets it right the fastest.

My only observation on this so far is that Saggies seem to marry twice. It's tough for me to find a middle-aged Saggie who's only been married once, and I can't think of one that's been married three times.

Anyway, just rambling along here.

AG

posted August 14, 2005 01:59 AM              

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also apologies to cancerrg, i dont need to read ur reply, but i think u will post one to me, nonetheless you are entitled and i will read it when i come back.

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i remember AG once wrote it somewere , that guys take arguments in less personal way than girls . for girls every argument turns so personal . i feel happy to be a man today. really.

ag: for the marriage question , i dont know the astrologiocal answer but recently my sis showed my chart to a lady astrologer and she predicated i had three marriages , i was too difficult a person to handle!!!!! any surprises ?
well i was surprised , honestly!

posted August 14, 2005 05:35 AM              

You were wondering whats the root to all the emotion.....errrr...........women, I think....

Now you talk of taking up with a Scorpio.......then if you want passion, emotion, intensity, mood swings, etc etc, this is how it is.......and of course the wonderful sex that we are famous for LOL!!!

Seriously tho - I have been told that of late, women will or have been put in a position due to planetry activity of great power!! We are being given the chance to "come forward" as such. I think what you are picking up AG is an outpouring of what, in the past, may have been repressed.

I also feel men like yourself are good for women like us - as you are strong, calm, kind and understanding and possess a non judgemental side and also a feminine streak - you will see the changes as a challenge and will probably be excited by them, as other males will feel threatened

The only problem is of course, there will be a majority of females moaning and slagging off their husbands...........but that doesnt mean we dont love em!!!

Love to you music man

posted August 16, 2005 01:52 PM              

How are you feelling now girl - better or worse?

I am feeling very irritable at the moment and if it wasnt that I am going out and having a good time, and some nice experiences, I would burst LOL!!!

Any more name calling to the husband and does he respond when you do or just keep quiet?

Speak soon

Love

posted August 16, 2005 11:39 PM              

Anyway, no.. no name calling at all since I started this thread. We had a nice weekend, particularly Saturday night. We are back in build mode/ Our habit seems to be tearing down one another and then building each other back up again. Not ideal, but it is what it is.

How are things with you?