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shop22much
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posted January 20, 2006 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sthe-I think I like beautiful things because of my strong Leo influence(and 7th house stellium)...yeah I guess I can put up with emotionalism at times(people I care for), because I can be pretty emotional myself(closed doors) I dont like to be around excessive emotionalism(IM SUCH A CONTRADICTION) it feels like it drains me, and I cant handle it...(maybe aquarius rising?)...anyways why did you ask if my pluto sextiled my sun? just out of curiousity...

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posted January 20, 2006 06:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
shoptoomuch, when we are faced with aspects we are not comfortable with in ourselves, especially in public, we end up meeting people who have those kinds of personalities. Maybe you are drawing intense people to you for that reason?

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posted January 20, 2006 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yeah def! i always say what we dont like in others, is what we dont like in ourselves.

still curious about the pluto aspecting sun thing...does that have to do with the drawing in emotional people(bad tempers too*sigh*?

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posted January 20, 2006 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
N -

Thanks for the info on 1st house Mooners. So, your X has one. Is that why you (wasn't it you) once adviced me to find a girl with an 8th house moon? I thought you were maybe hinting that I should try to connect w/ 26taurus, as we were innocently flirting w/ each other at the time. I'll have to read up on the 8th house Moon. I know I tend to connect well w/ 8th house Suns.

What degree is your Moon,.. Sun, Asc? Can I peep your chart, or what?

Your Jupiter is the same degree as my Vertex. (Its in Leo, but supposedly the degree has significance in any sign.)

Lol, "lots of air.. therapist". I see one every week, too. She's a wiccan high priestess, and totally down to earth, a Gemini w/ Gem asc and a loaded 1st house (Sun/ Jupiter, Mercury, NN Stellium), squaring a close Pluto/Moon (and Mars and Uranuus)conjunction in the 5th, in Virgo, with the first Stellium Squaring, and the latter oppositioning a Saturn singleton in the upper houses (11th); Venus at 0 Cancer in the 2nd. I think she's been through a lot. We have numerous inconjunctions in our synastry. Even if I seem to have little to talk about all week, somehow, when I get around her, I've got tons of - often semi-brilliant - stuff to say. I've definitely been the darling of women everywhere (might also have something to do with the Sun/Venus conjunction), though not always in the ways I would like... I think maybe my therapist has a crush on me. I complain that I'm too boyish, and she keeps telling me not to underestimate the cute factor. So, all demur, I say, "You think I'm cute." She totally blushes.

I hear the "draws to the country" bit. The city, even suburbia, makes me feel like a schizo half the time.

I dont have enough relationship experience to know if I would tend to baby women. In the few experiences I've had, I've been kind of like a care-taker, but, without meaning to baby them, or create inequality. It just happens like that. I end up nursing these neurotic women who give little back, so, it gets kind of unequal. I know, sometimes, when we "help" people, we are just subliminally sending them the message that we dont think they can help themselves. I've got to be careful of that. But I tend to allow myself to be emotionally manipulated, for a while, if I ever do try to let them help themselves.

take good care,
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posted January 21, 2006 09:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HCS, if you want to email me at innerchildtheone@yahoo.com, I will send my details. I don't know when I will be on linda land again.

As for Scorpio risings, I have found that all of my abusive ex's had this aspect. OR the ascendant's ruler was in Scorpio, or the 8th/1st.
Libra ex, chart ruler is Mercury in Scorpio/6th.
Gemini ex, chart ruler was Neptune Scorpio/8th
Aqua ex, chart ruler Uranus in Virgo/1st house.

All three pressured me for sex right away after three or four dates. The Aqua didn't get it and so became history after only a month.

The Libra and Aqua were both physically abusive, the Gemini was a cheater and emotionally abusive as much as possible. All wanted to stay on and continue "breaking me". All used the expression, breaking or taming me.

Libra and Aqua left physical scars on my body. The Gemini convinced me to have surgery, dye my hair, and do other things I disliked.

There are no other real signatures, except for a strong Neptune, and strong Venus. Aqua had Libra moon, and the Gemini had a Venus singleton, Taurus Moon, and lots of planets in the 7th. Normally Neptune and Venus are not violent, but very jealous. I still talk to the libra as he has mellowed over the years but we are not close.

Last week I was suffering from damage to my right eye, caused by overwork and stress at work plus being close to so many people all working together in a closed overheated area.
My domineering boss drove us all through Christmas season.

Like an angry boss, all three men hated me at the end for being weak, any sign of weakness, my monthly cycle, being sick, being late, having to work, oversleeping, not making breakfast for him, were considered signs of being unlovable and too nice to others. They told me I was stupid and useless and they couldn't respect me that is why they hurt me. Plus I needed the discipline as I was "weak".

Considering my mental and emotional state at Christmas it's amazing I didn't wig out on the Cancer/Aries Moon/Libra Mars I was seeing and now I just let him call and call. I could care less, as he is the laziest meanest and most demanding person I have met in a while. I really have no patience with this type anymore.

Taurus women have amazingly bad luck with men being nice or caring to them, so it's understandable why I usually do gravitate towards men that baby women. However, they do not in fact actually do any babying. It must be a trait of mine to baby myself so that's what I do.

I believe Pisces suns have this issue as well, as the ones I have met have a terrible time with trying to make the peace. I have rejected the idea that it must have a significant other in my life or that I must look or act a certain way.

To me Scorpio rising doesn't "like" the opposite sex, instead it likes the opposite sex to be in a certain position naked when he or she gets home. Domineering is the key word. I have equally bad luck receiving respect from Scorpio suns.

I am about to see a movie with a nice Pisces who does not stress me out, yell at me, throw things at me, stab me with a pencil, tell me I'm stupid, or ugly or steal, lie, or cheat on me.

If he starts to do this then he's dust.
And BTW I have to wear a patch on my eye, and I quit that job but I don't care. I 'm still going out.

Natasha
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Cancer Moon/8th

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MoonDuchess88
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posted January 21, 2006 09:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister's a Pisces/gemini/scorpio and she's very approachable. No one would guess that she's intense. The only time she gets that way is when she's really mad. I remeber one time,a long time ago, when she was at a party she slapped this obnoxious girl hard across the face for..well... being obnoxious. Everybody who was with her said she just walked away after. Other than that she's not really dark and brooding. She does have almost the same eyes as Diana Ross (though not that big)who is also a scorpio rising.

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posted January 22, 2006 12:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my stuff so you know where I'm coming from

Sun- Leo 9th
Moon - Virgo 9th 0 degrees
Rising - Scorpio

I guess the best way to describe the Scorp rising is that everything is a feeling to us. Every thought, word spoken, the time I spend with others, first and formost I feel that as something using all of body. It's exhausting but we recover very well.

Because we can take on so much we have a bad habbit of not really listening to our own needs. "I can take it" is the logic, but it's that very logic we use to drain all the fun out of life. It's hard to be sensitive to our own needs when there is so much affecting us in the outside world.

The best thing to do to help a Scorp. acendant is to soothe them. We've got sooooo many feelings, and when we can really calm down,and not a superficial "calm" that is really us just being worked up in one space not moving or expressing. Get everything off the mind of this person and you'll have made major points with them

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posted January 22, 2006 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"like trying to drive a Ferrari when you are drunk"


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I'm a scorpio rising, a libra sun and a cancer moon.

I haven't had much experience in the love area, but when I think a guy likes me, I love talking about other guys, and how hot they are...

is that bad? giggles.

Its nice though, when they're jealous, it means they care. I think...?

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posted January 22, 2006 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the opposite sex, as long as they're not trying to order me around or make trouble for me or anybody else.
I'm sorry to hear of your troubles, Natasha, and that you might not be around for a while. Good luck with the Pisces ~ I hate to hear of the way you've been treated. You deserve to be with someone who will treat you well, and I hope you find that person soon.

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Hi Natasha,

I hope for once you get back what you give. You are a wonderful woman and deserve nothing but the best.

One thing to watch with us is whether you are part of an elaborate illusion created just to give life a bit of spice, or whether he is genuinely opening an opportunity to be intimate in a real way.

Knowing you are a person of real substance it shouldn't be too hard to do, but may take time because Pisces rarely know which one it is themselves at any given time.

He will likely swim in and out of you, tasting your essence on the deepest of levels, and flit around you so quickly on a physical level, there then not, into you then distracted like a dance.

Only display curiosity and strength and he will respond by becoming intrigued. Don't open up too soon as you won't need to as he will be subconsiously reading your energy and sussing you out.

It takes along time for a Pisces to become comfortable with every part of you, and he may disappear for short periods of time (a kind of watered down - or evolved - method of the Cancer). Won't be for long periods though.


From your point of view, you are looking for geuine concern that goes beyond the light friendliness the Fish offers you as he has no doubt already connected on the superficial level. Gestures of giving that indicate he is giving you a part of himself, however subtle.

The key to a Pisces love is melding with you for short periods, almost becoming you which goes way beyong empathy or sympathy or compassion.

Remember though that this comes naturally and can happen with more than one person at a time. I always think that you can tell when a Pisces likes someone because they seem to go numb a bit when they are around them and their energies seem to settle a little as if soothed.

Then you may be onto something wonderful, but watch the WHOLE dance.

I consider Cancer Moons to be the most comforting people to be around, but that may be more to do with my own placements so may not be relevant here, but should prove correct to some degree.

I wish you nothing but the best darling, you deserve it.

Swerve x

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i'm a leo with scorpio rising and ...... I'm intense, I like dark clothes and I have a dark mind but a good heart and i'm torn between that every single mofuckin day. I love females too but i ain't the mofucka that wants to be tied down.

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Hey shop22much.,.

This is probably a little late in proceedings, so i can't really tell you much that others haven't already very eloquently expressed before me.

I went out with a Scorp Rising for a good 9 years. Scorp Sun as well, Saggy Moon < this is just as well, as i often thought that if he'd had a Scorpio moon as well, he might simply have exploded.
Or more likely *im*ploded.
Which sort of tells you what you need to know as regards his intensity of character!

He was extrodinarily loyal concerning loved ones -not just me and family, but good friends, of which there were surprisingly few, it being quite the task to live up to his expectations of close friendship.
In fact, he would regularly sort of.. disgard friends he felt disappointed by, something which i found a little harsh even though i could often see his point that he wasn't gaining anything from certain acquaintances (pluto in the 11th, i think).

As well as being the very essence of loyality though, he had his secrets and, although in hindsight they weren't as dark as he obviously thought they were, he kept them to himself for a very long time! No doubt there's still loads of stuff i don't know about him, but i do know he would have stayed with me even if my face had fallen off, or something.

At any rate, he commanded a lot of respect and gave it in return. There were a couple of jealousy-related fall-outs earlier on, which involved a lot of kicking inanimate objects (on both sides but - hell - we were young! ) but really, there was no question of ever goading him enough to bring on a full Scorpio-level emotional-arse-kicking. Not that i would have wanted too, for 8 out of the 9 years. And then, Mars in Gemini being what it is , I suddenly went a bit loopy and messed up - and you'd better believe i bailed out of that relationship quicker than a ferret up a trouser (and with a half-mumbled excuse that was so rubbish that, honestly, a ferret could have done better!).


Anyway, i waffle!

The point is as regards your bloke would be not to mess him about - although it does sound like he's doing a bit of that to you at the moment.

Erm, you could always ask him if this thing he does is purely in response to you having ****** him off, or if he feels compelled to do it regardless cos he feels in some way insecure about something..?
Tho you never know with Scorp Rising - sometimes they just won't say naafin, like. And sometimes you might just get yerself one heck of an argument. Followed by a weeks worth of sulking!

Or just the weeks worth of sulking.

Or nothing. Then, thirty years from now, your brand new company car mysteriously stolen and left in a Short Stay Carpark in Central London for three months solid.

Maybe, as a Saggy Sun, he's sort of subconciously.... trying to challenge your views of relationship conventions or something, but in a crafty Scorp way that makes you jealous.

Is it a powerful Rising Sign? Yeah, i'd say so. Mind you, we all know that fable about the big old oak, and the reed! 'Appen a bit of flexibilty would sometimes benefit Scorpio-Risings - which i bet your boyfriend has in droves really, with those two mutable signs on his sun/moon. I'd draw on that, and open a big discussion about the whole thing when the opportunity next arises.

Bye!

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posted January 30, 2006 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"To me Scorpio rising doesn't "like" the opposite sex, instead it likes the opposite sex to be in a certain position naked when he or she gets home. "
Natasha, you crack me up!

Hmmm not sure... I know two Scorp risings... both men..... wait, hangonasec, I think you may be right! One of them I live with (he's not my boyfriend though, my mum's) and the other..... well, penetrating gaze, gives off highly sexed up vibes (or is it just me? ) and maybe a little controlling/ demanding?? Haha

Yeah, the first I know is definately a bit sex mad... and the second, well I should jolly well hope so
So mean when they want to be though, both of them...

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posted January 30, 2006 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha, just read through again what you were saying about your exes and they sound like utter tossers i'm so sorry...

shop22much- is this guy the same one you were talking about in your Free-For-All topic?

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I have Scorpio rising but I think I am very approachable and I could never intimidate anyone. People say I come off as 'sweet' & I am rather shy. But my brother is a Scorpio rising as well and he has the intensity that I lack and very powerful presence. I wonder why? He has Sun in Cancer, Mars in Cancer, Moon in Taurus. I have Moon in Acqua and Mars in Scorpio and Sun in Scorpio?? Wierd!!

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I had a somewhat similar question to this before.. I think Rev Alice said it right!

I asked, quote:

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A Scorpio sun sign with an Ascendant in Pisces and a Moon in Pisces. Do you all think that the Pisces has more of an affect on the personality?
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The Spirit of your life, and the kind of energy you run on, are Scorpio. See this as channeled through the Pisces Moon, and with Pisces rising, others will see more Pisces than Scorpio. But that should work well, because Scopio rather likes secrecy!
Scorpio refers to power (literally magical power). Pisces is mastery. A powerful Master being--a Master Magician.

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Of easy wind and downy flake.

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And miles to go before I sleep,
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My best friend is a scorpio rising and she is one of the strongest, honest, deeply beautiful person i know. She has gone through so much emotional pain with the unexpected death of her mum at 16 and i have never seen someone push so hard and be so strong as she did. She is real beauty and strength which to me are very admirable qualities. She is very much of her scorpio rising sign.

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I am a scorpio rising.....and I find that I surround myself with other scorpio risings......It's actually been wierd how it happens.....

Even at work.....there are 4 employees....three of us have scorp risings.

My current interest has scorp rising, and 2 other relationships had them....

I am very intense, and like that in others....

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posted April 10, 2007 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with ErickaF- I don't come off as intimidating/intense At All, I think. I don't think I come off Scorpio-ish, other than kind of quietly observing and/or spying in a situation. I don't know why- maybe the Sag moon balances it out or something.

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I'm a Scorpio rising, and ever since I was a kid I've gotten comments about having intense eyes. I think it's partly my physical features, but I also have very focused eyes when I'm paying attention to something, eyes that make me look like I'm centering all my attention on that one thing. I recently came across a picture from my 6th birthday...big group of kids sitting in a circle and a clown was at the head of it talking to us. Most of the kids weren't paying attention to her, some were looking at her, and I was staring at her like she was revealing the mysteries of the universe. I laughed my ass off when I saw that picture because I finally realized what people meant when they'd comment on how intense and focused I look. It really made the whole idea of an ascendant's influence make sense to me, too. I don't think the ascendant has any influence on your actual physical characteristics, but I think it can influence the way you're animated, they way you naturally express yourself through your physical self.

I also have a Mercury-Uranus conjunction in Scorpio, and I do feel like a Scorpio in a lot of ways. I'm private, loyal, strong-willed, chronically horny... In social situations I generally interact in a more fun-loving, light-hearted kind of way (I'm a Sag Sun/Leo Moon). When I'm talking about serious subjects or about issues very important to me my more intense Scorpio side definitely comes out. Sometimes I almost feel like I have a split personality, since when people who have only known my Ascendant get to know the rest of me they often comment that they had pegged me as someone much more intimidating and less of a goofball than I actually am, and vice versa with people who had bypassed my Ascendant and gone straight to my Sun and Moon.

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jane-I also have those really focused eyes.......The other day I was waslking into a pub and friends saw me from inside when they were looking out the window. When i got in they said....you looked so determined/serious to get in here. When in thinking about it, I thought I was really relaxed and happy to be drinking a beer soon.

When taking pictures of myself, it get kinda spooky how big and focused my eyes can get, I don't like it, really.

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My daughter has scorp rising, AND scorp sun, and a cappy moon.... She isn't yet 2 1/2 years old, but the staff at her kindergarten tells me she can scare away the oldest kids just by looking at them... And I've also had my battles with her, the little runt.... everything is always a fight, and from the moment she was born she has NEVER cried for any other reasons than ANGER first and foremost, and physical pain, seriously. It kinda scares me, cause I'm all air and fire, and she's all water and earth, I feel like I have given birth to an alien....

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dividedsky - That's exactly what I experience too. I'll just be listening to someone speak or lost in my own thoughts, not thinking anything particularly heavy or deep (...should I have sushi for dinner tonight? Mmm, sushi...) and people will comment on that intense look. I used to think it was an accident of appearances, that I just happen to have features that look that way when I'm quiet, but I think it's partly that and partly a fixed calmness from Scorpio.

Fluke - Even as a Scorpio rising, I'm a little scared of your baby . Astrologically she certainly has the makings for a focused, successful, hard-worker. It's a good thing she has an air/fire mom around to show her some fun.

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