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EARTHY_ZEPHYR
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posted May 14, 2006 09:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey guys, i was trying to study abt the houses n all n i really dont know much abt them, so i jus checked out mine to start off... but wot i got came a lil shokin...
i have saturn n pluto both in 1st(sounds scary to me, dont kno wot it means)
venus in 12th(god have i heard horrid things abt this)
plus i have moon in 4th,
sun n merc in 11th
mars n uranus in 2nd
jup n neptune in 3rd

i m really novice abt these, pls can anyone explain them to me???????????

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Girl of the Water
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posted May 14, 2006 10:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't be scared. This just tells me you're probably a bit of a loner, and that's not a bad thing.

I'm a novice at this myself, but my book tells me that with Saturn in your first house you can discipline yourself, and you are patient and responsible. You probably take negative things more graciously than most people do. Pluto is a bit harder for me to describe- this is what says you might be a loner, but you're good at taking care of yourself and you have the ability to reach your goals. But Pluto can be quite nasty sometimes and make you cold and ruthless.

Venus in the 12th house, I don't think this is such a bad thing, but you probably like to keep your relationships private. And you're probably quite possessive of your loved ones, but if they're the right kind of person they'll feel safe with you. The love you give is true and selfless, and some people will try to take advantage of this(but with Pluto in your first house I don't see you letting this sort of thing happen). No worries, though, there will be those people who truly enjoy your love and they'll give back.

Moon in the 4th house means you are very protective towards your family and you'll make a good, devoted parent one day, if you plan on having kids.

Sun in the 11th house means very good things - people are attracted to you and you are probably quite optimistic. This should help balance out the negative points in Saturn and Pluto's position. This tells me you're a leader, and you like being the dominate one in a group. Mercury supports your popularity as well, and says that you are usually around a variety of people. They like being around you because you're intelligent and insightful. Mercury can also make you cynical, however, and there is still the part of you that's a loner. Like most people, I'm sure time alone for you is very important. I fthink sometimes you feel drained if you're around other people too much and not having much time to yourself.

I haven't tried to figure out your 2nd and 3rd house yet, because I need to get a shower and get ready for today. I hope this helped. Let me know if it sounds like you, because either way this is like practice for me.

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posted May 14, 2006 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TY Girl of the Water..
i have lots of these aspects too!

EARTHY_ZEPHYR..
i have sun and merc in 11
moon in 4/5 house
venus in 12th
jup in 3rd..funny huh?

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Girl of the Water
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posted May 14, 2006 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um... What does TY mean?

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posted May 14, 2006 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i also have venus in 12th...
it isn't that bad. i personally don't trust others easily...and i have very few 'close' friends, very few that i open up to. i have venus in gemini, and by it being in the 12th changes everything...i am not like the usual venus in gemini person...i am not social and talkative. the venus in gemini person likes to talk on the phone, and i hate 'small talk'..., although this might have to do with my scorpio and pluto aspects.

plus i have moon in 4th, -> makes you cancerian...you might be able to relate to the cancer moon.
sun n merc in 11th -> mercury is good in the 11th (aquarius).
mars n uranus in 2nd -> not sure of this one.
jup n neptune in 3rd -> ever had a thirst for knowledge?
might've had some trouble in communicating (being misunderstood) or was somewhat self-conscious (of intellect and/or communicating).

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer Rising.

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EARTHY_ZEPHYR
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posted May 15, 2006 01:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Girl of water,TaurScorp,
Your explanation rings bells in my head.Wel i am basicaly a loner,in my teens i would have hel of prob in starting a convo.i have curbed that habit a lot now,but stil sometimes i want to retreat to lonelyness.ì tend to have this two sided persona-one is the good girl who can never do anything wrong(thats wot ppl think n expect),the other side is so dark i think if ppl around me see that,they'l faint or have a heart attack from the shock! Im not bad or malicious, im just diff.

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LeapofFaith
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posted May 15, 2006 06:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Earthy Zephyr,

I know the feeling of Venus in the 12th and Saturn in the 1st--because I have this combo myself as well (Plus Lib. ASC) and Venus and Saturn are conjunct too. I am learning a lot about the combo and how I can try to use it for the best. Not easy, but I hope with time, it can be done. I can understand that it doesn't feel easy to have these placements and esp. when you have heard previously what people have written about them (I have felt the same way before about Venus in the 12th).

If you want to check it out, there is a book called, "Your Secret Self: Illuminating the Mysteries of the Twelfth House" by Tracy Marks and I find it has been an enormous help for me trying to better transform the energies of my 12th house Venus into something better. I got it through a bookstore by ordering it because it was out of print. It may still be ordered online too through sites like half.com, amazon, etc.

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EARTHY_ZEPHYR
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posted May 16, 2006 12:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx LoF, for sharing the pain...feels nice to know that someone understands...
U kno wot this sat n venus12th combo do to me, they make me think im never going to have a lasting tru luv relationship,wel let alone lasting dont kno i wil ever have one. U kno im 22 n no one ever asked me out or gave me a rose/card on valentine's. Dont wanna pitty myself, jus wanted to ease the burden on my heart(venus in libra doesnt help either).

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taurean_scorpion
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posted May 16, 2006 01:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you have any venus aspects to saturn?

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EARTHY_ZEPHYR
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posted May 16, 2006 02:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no i dont have any vanus-saturn aspects,
here r my aspects if u can take a lookat them-
Sun Square Mars 3°25
Sun Sextile Saturn 3°28
Sun Square Uranus 5°56
Moon Sextile Neptune 6°37
Moon Trine Ascendant 2°23
Mercury Trine Jupiter 3°10
Mercury Trine Neptune 1°27
Mercury Sextile Pluto 0°13
Mercury Sextile Ascendant 5°41
Venus Sextile Mars 3°44
Venus Square Jupiter 5°15
Venus Sextile Uranus 1°12
Mars Conjunction Uranus 2°32
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 4°36
Jupiter Sextile Pluto 2°57
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°40
Neptune Sextile Ascendant 4°14
Pluto Conjunction Ascendant 5°54

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alanabelle86
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posted May 16, 2006 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awwww, i can vouch for pluto in the 1st house. i don't feel it's a bad thing, just makes you a "chameleon" type to the outside world. and it makes you have some damn good will power

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EARTHY_ZEPHYR
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posted May 16, 2006 09:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, atleast there's something nice about pluto(will power). well wot about other signs????
another thing i wanted to know was how do u calculate wot is in ur 1st 2nd etc??i only got to know mine from a site..
well here r my planets-
Sun Virgo 15°39'46 11 direct
Moon Aquarius 22°02'17 04 direct
Mercury Virgo 00°06'03 11 direct
Venus Libra 08°31'04 12 direct
Mars Sagittarius 12°15'08 02 direct
Jupiter Capricorn 03°15'36 03 direct
Saturn Scorpio 12°11'43 01 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 09°43'16 02 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 28°39'20 03 stationary (D)
Pluto Scorpio 00°18'56 01 direct
True Node Gemini 00°45'27 08 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Libra 24°25'23
2nd House Scorpio 23°11'26
3rd House Sagittarius 23°51'20
Imum Coeli Capricorn 25°50'48
5th House Aquarius 27°54'46
6th House Pisces 27°57'39
Descendant Aries 24°25'23
8th House Taurus 23°11'26
9th House Gemini 23°51'20
Medium Coeli Cancer 25°50'48
11th House Leo 27°54'46
12th House Virgo 27°57'39
the one thing i really cant understand is that how come my pluto is conj asc when they r both in different signs

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wilsontc
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posted May 16, 2006 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
earthy,

The easiest way to see which planet is in which house is to create a chart graphic and then look at the chart to see which planet is in which house. Your Pluto is conjunct the Ascendant because it is close to the Ascendant by degree (Pluto is about 6 degrees away from the ascendant).

Answering,

Tim

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Azalaksh
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posted May 16, 2006 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
E_Z ~

Pluto on the Asc qualifies you to come & join the Plutonators!!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004589.html

If you can, pick up these books at your bookstore or Library:
"The Book of Pluto" by Steven Forrest
"Saturn - A New Look At An Old Devil" by Liz Greene
"The Twelve Houses" by Howard Sasportas

When I get home, I'll pull up some links for your questions. Meanwhile, since one has to have it somewhere, I find Saturn (exalted) in Libra to be a dandy placement

Zala

PS: GotW - "TY" means "Thank You"

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EARTHY_ZEPHYR
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posted May 17, 2006 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx, tim.
Zala-thanx for the lìnk,i was thinkin of posting there,i wil...
Btw i dont have saturn in libra, i have it in scorp. Dont know if thats dandy

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LeapofFaith
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posted May 17, 2006 11:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earthy Zephyr,

I think that getting your feelings out about this in the open is a start to something better. It's one step that you took that has opened up lines of communication between yourself and others here on this thread. And also, I don't know how often this is mentioned, but I think mourning what you didn't have is important...it's important for others to know that having a relationship is something that is meaningful to you and something that you want to cultivate with others. I never have had many deep and meaningful convos with my friends until starting this year. I feel like it has opened up a new outlook on relationships for me...but, this is the beginning for me. After all these years of not expressing what I truly wanted, I am starting to do that. I am learning like you, that I want a relationship, and yes, I empathize totally with the scenario you mentioned. Change can be scary, and it still is scary to me still at times, but it is full of unexpected rewards too. I am also near your age--24.

Keep getting those feelings out and talk them over with someone you really can trust, someone who will understand you and not judge you for who you are. A diary has also helped me let out my feelings when necessary, so I don't know if that would be something helpful for you, but it might be worth a try.

LeapofFaith


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posted May 17, 2006 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
E_Z

What did you mean by "another thing i wanted to know was how do u calculate wot is in ur 1st 2nd etc??i only got to know mine from a site.."
Didn't you get your chart stats (Portrait) above from astro.com? If you didn't make it to the pretty graphics section, here's how to:

Please go to www.astro.com. Right under the “Astrodienst Astro.com” in the blue title bar is a section called "Free Horoscopes", click on that. Under "Please select your free horoscope" choose the section headed in gray called "Horoscope Chart Drawings" and pick "Extended Chart Selection". Click on "Add a New Person" and set yourself up. Then under "please select the type of chart you want" drop-down box, choose "natal chart wheel" and click on the "click here to show the chart" button.
Once you've run that you'll have all your planetary positions (and a nice picture!).

I skimmed over your natal placements and missed the fact that you have Saturn in Scorpio and not Libra as I assumed (you know what they say about assuming )

Here's a section from Liz Greene's Saturn book (noted above):

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Saturn in Scorpio and the eighth house
The symbolic progression of man's evolution from Aries to Pisces has been described in many sources. There is a similar progression within the three signs belonging to one element, and here the progression represents the stages of development in that particular sphere of consciousness. The first sign or house belonging to that element is generally the clearest and most direct in meaning and relates to the development of the individual personality and its integration. The second sign of that element denotes a point of crisis for here the individual must take his own experience and integrate it into the group of which he is a part. This is rarely done without struggle, for this too is an expansion of consciousness from the personal to the universal. The third and last sign or house refers to the larger unit of the group and infers the final purpose of the particular level of consciousness symbolised by that element.

The watery signs and houses do not contradict this. In the fourth house a man is first subjected as an isolated unit to emotional forces and pressures from the environment which shape his future growth as a personality. He has the opportunity of building a base within himself so that the projection into circumstance is withdrawn and inner security on the feeling level becomes a permanent possession of his character. In the eighth house, the man must take his feeling nature as a channel of expression and contact and begin to function in personal relationships with others. The flow of feeling is now between him and another. Finally, in the twelfth house he has the opportunity of taking the wisdom he has acquired from his experiences and offering it to the group in service for the group development. He is no longer an isolated unit but part of a larger evolving life. This is a helpful way of viewing things which is useful to remember in considering Saturn in the eighth house for this house is probably the most misunderstood and maligned of all the houses in the horoscope.

This house is primarily described as either the house of physical death—which suggests that it has no value or activity outside that brief moment when we take leave of the physical sheath—or as "money received from others", a description which is an insult to the complexity and power of the sign and planet associated with the house. Both interpretations are valid as far as they go, but they do not help in an understanding of Saturn placed in the eighth beyond the reading of a death in old age and the denial of inheritance; and both of these readings are frequently mistaken. The interchange of finances between two people in partnership may be one of the by-products of the house, but it is only when the meaning of money as a symbol of emotional values is understood that the more complex meaning of "money received from others" becomes clear. Death itself does indeed come under this house, but there are many kinds of death, and most of them are not physical; and every death is followed inevitably by a rebirth because it is only the form, and not the life which inherits the form, that dies.

As a watery house, the eighth deals primarily with emotional exchange. As opposite from the second house, that which has physical value and meaning and which constitutes stability and self-sustenance becomes that which has emotional value and which constitutes stability of feeling. It is in the eighth sign, Scorpio, that we may find a clue to the significance of this house in matters of sex, emotional crises, and the death and rebirth of the instincts as purified desire.

This is primarily a house of crisis and refers to those points in life where the emotional ties to others force a man to the realisation of some vital area of his own feeling nature which must be recognised, examined, and purified. Here money becomes a symbol of emotional dependence or freedom, for in our society it buys freedom or bondage in marriage, and our sexual values are largely coloured by our finances. So often in the eighth house there exists the enactment of a struggle which appears purely material and which is really emotional in origin. It is no wonder that Freud attributed such significance to money in dreams and why psychology continues to recognise the relationship between monetary and emotional generosity or tightness.

It is common to find the individual with afflicted planets here tied to a difficult financial situation following upon a broken marriage or to chronic problems with partners who take advantage of him financially. This is particularly characteristic of an eighth house Saturn. When investigated, it will often be found that on the sexual and emotional levels there was difficulty in expression, and there is no sweeter revenge for many people than to air their disappointment and frustration in the face of an unresponsive Saturnian partner through material demands.
The area into which this discussion takes us is a prickly one, and this is usual for Scorpio and the eighth house; however, although the previous statement may seem inordinately hard, it is ironic that in our society the prostitute, who is at least honest about the wares she sells, is despised and generally ends up in jail, while the wife who fundamentally plays the same role and buys her security with her body is glorified because society condones this mask. There are a great many women who trade their sexual favours for a legal tie which promises them financial security and a great many men who buy these favours in exchange for what have been euphemistically termed "a husband's rights".

There is much rubble which must be dug through where our present attitudes toward sex in relation to money are concerned for we are still following the feudal concepts of family financial structure. In spite of the efforts of more enlightened souls, it will take another generation before we can begin to understand that the real nature of sex has nothing to do with the physical world at all but is the reflection of emotional and mental energies—which are in turn the reflection of still more complex energies. Money and sex are still too complex for the average man to understand except in a literal way, and consequently, we have a tremendous amount of confusion to wade through before the alchemical union of two people into one is understood.

The three watery houses and signs represent three aspects of the feeling nature of man. The fourth house symbolises the nurturing forces which shape his early life. The eighth symbolises the creative and procreative forces which he wields and through which he contacts others. The twelfth symbolises the dissipating forces which eventually break down his sense of separateness and release him into group life.
The eighth house is a battleground, the primary purpose of which is self-understanding and self-mastery through constant crises. There is no greater battleground or stimulus to crisis than the energies which are released through the apparently wholly physical act of sex. The union which occurs on the level of the feeling nature produces a flow of energy which takes a man, for a brief moment, "out of himself"—it is virtually the only time that he can feel himself to be at one with another human being. It is this intimate emotional oneness to which the sexual aspect of the eighth house refers; there is a death of the individual awareness and the birth of a mutual awareness for which reason the Elizabethans called the sexual act "the little death". Unfortunately there are many people who are as frightened of the apparent emotional vulnerability inherent in this as they are of death itself. What they do not recognise is that the union takes place whether it is recognised or not, and on the feeling level it is not possible to totally shut out the partner; it is only possible to believe that he has been shut out.

To consider this point of view is to recognise the real responsibility involved in a sexual union. This has nothing to do with morality. We have had many centuries of moral teachings which have done absolutely nothing to help us understand the real nature of the mystery. The currents of this great creative force or "serpent power"—whose cousins we may see as the serpent in the garden, the ourobouros of alchemy, and the plumed serpent of the Aztecs—may be released in other ways, but these belong to the sphere of the occultist and the magician, and the average individual knows only one—physical sex. Once set in motion, these currents bind and alter both souls involved. All states of consciousness which involve the "death" of the personality—ranging from those induced by drugs to certain kinds of religious ecstasy and trances of varying sorts—come under the rulership of the eighth house for they all refer to this same energy which can separate the self from its vehicles. Physical death is only the last in a series of deaths which begin with birth.

We understand very little about both sex and death at the present time, and this ignorance is more than slightly owed to the confusion of the Piscean era with its pronouncement of sex as evil and of death as the gateway to never ending heaven or hell. This kind of conditioning runs deep, as it has been with us for two thousand years, and even the more liberal-minded and scientifically inclined have the same collective heritage of fear, superstition, and fascination about this area of human experience. The individual with Saturn in the eighth house has a double burden on his hands for he must not only come to terms with Saturn—who is evasive enough on his own—but he must also be willing to make the descent into Pluto's realm if he is to find the treasure hard to attain. It may be said, however, and with no attempt at poetry, that the person who accomplishes this possesses the key to his own immortality.

In a great many cases with Saturn in Scorpio or in the eighth house, the individual's fears or feelings of inadequacy are in the area of sexual expression. This is undoubtedly a symbol for an even deeper fear; but here the symbol is powerful enough in its own right to create great pain in the person's life. The average man who has to deal with this situation will not, however, take kindly to being told this fact bluntly by an astrological consultant. People are as prickly about sex now, when it comes to overt discussion, as they were during Victoria's time. Moreover the man's inadequacy is not a physical one but rather an emotional one; this is a watery, not an earthy, house. Saturn in the eighth is often linked with impotence or frigidity, but these are also not physical problems, and the physician who attempts to cure these problems through hormones alone is committing a grave error. The difficulty here lies in the fear of submission, of violation, of the control of the partner, and of emotional rejection for it is the psychic rather than the physical exchange which contains the threat.

It is fairly common to find an individual with Saturn in the eighth who may be affectionate and loving but who, when the last outpost of separateness is passed in the bedroom, shies like a frightened horse and cannot perform. Or he may overcompensate for his inner fears by becoming the "perfect lover" on a purely physical level, and he may try to block the flow of energy and emotion to his partner so that he is, somehow, not really there. However subtle this mechanism is, it can be deeply frustrating and disturbing to the partner although it may not be recognised on a conscious level by either person. The individual may not be aware that anything is wrong except that somehow it is always faintly disappointing, and he is never able to achieve the satisfaction his fantasies tell him is possible. It takes an unusual degree of honesty to look directly at the subtle patterns which surround an eighth house Saturn for there is, at the same time as fear, the overcompensation of great value placed on performace in our present era. No wonder that these people have such trouble with money during and after marriage; they may easily find themselves under financial obligations concurrent with the amount of frustration they have unconsciously inflicted on their partners.

As with all Saturn positions, two extremes of behaviour are possible. The effects of overcompensation can help to produce the overtly promiscuous person who is not truly motivated by physical pleasure but who is trying particularly hard to be "sexy" because he or she is dimly aware of a fundamental problem in relating emotionally to another person. Here Saturn again tries to make an emotional value into a physical one with little success. This kind of behaviour is prevalent now because there is great emphasis on sexual freedom as the reaction to too much restriction in the past. Both are extremes which are part of the natural process of evolution but which are unpleasant in themselves for fear permeates them both.

It is naturally wise for the consultant astrologer to express diplomacy when dealing with eighth house matters for he may be inviting a punch in the mouth otherwise. But with this kind of eighth house Saturn, we are reminded of that wonderful Shakespearean line, "Methinks thou dost protest too much!" This is reminiscent of the fourth house Saturn who "adores" his family, who had a "wonderful" childhood, who had "no problems whatsoever" with either parent.

On the other hand the person with Saturn in the eighth may cloak his fears with the garment of strong religious or moral convictions of a particularly intolerant sort, thereby declaring as sinful that of which he is essentially afraid. In these cases Saturn is a prompter toward celibacy but for all the wrong reasons. The devil, unfortunately, is not vanquished by being told to go away; it is the light of consciousness that he cannot endure.

We may also find that rare individual who is honest enough with himself to understand that there is something within himself that needs development—as there is in everyone—and who makes the effort not only to discipline but to comprehend his sexual nature as well so that he can express it in the most positive way. In all cases, however, the fascination with death and with sex is very great although there may be fear or disgust at the same time.

It seems that a characteristic pattern of the person with an eighth house Saturn is to be let down emotionally by others and often in the most intimate and painful way; and it is in this pattern that a clue to the larger purpose of the placement may be found. There is frequently a denial of deep emotional contact in childhood, and as Saturn has some connection with the father, this placement often occurs where the father dies or is emotionally cold. Often the individual grows up in an environment where very little physical expression occurs or where the sexual problems existent between the parents have filled the atmosphere with hostility and fear. There is some link between the father and the sexual energies although this may be very subtle. Often it is not subtle, and beatings or assault occur. The effect, whatever the actual circumstance, is a feeling of isolation and loneliness and the awareness that no one can share or alleviate the scars. For Saturn in the eighth house carries deeper emotional scars than any other Saturian placement, and the wounds are slower to heal.

The emotional isolation with an eighth house Saturn is even more acute than with a fourth house Saturn for the emotional needs are far more intense and directed toward individuals. It is union rather than security which is sought and union of a particularly intense and transforming kind. The individual often feels that through another he can be reborn and can achieve awareness of his spiritual nature. The lesson with Saturn, of course, is that one must do it himself; the transformation and resurrection into higher consciousness, the deep knowledge and mastery of the unconscious, must come from within the man himself. There is often a fascination with all things occult or, at the very least, an interest in the depths of the mind, and it is in utilising this interest and in learning the real nature of the energies of creation that the individual becomes a magician. The secrets of the powers of the unconscious are his, and these are literally life-giving powers for the healing of himself and others.


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posted May 17, 2006 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the following is from the Steven Forrest book noted above:
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PLUTO IN THE FIRST HOUSE

THE FIRST HOUSE ARENA: Leadership, Personal Impact, Style
THE FIRST HOUSE PITS: Mere Egoism and Power-Tripping

IN THE TRADITION….
….the first house is often called the “House of the Personality.” What’s actually at stake here can be expressed more precisely: the first house represents that part of the Self which we make obvious to the world through our habitual styles of action, behavior, and self-presentation. Think of it as the interface between two parts of your humanness: all the complexities and ambiguities of your deep psyche, and the fundamental requirement of material life that we make visible, behavioral choices.
Someone offends you. Inwardly, you experience dozens of emotions and reactions. Anger. Hurt. Understanding. Contempt. Shame. Transcendent Indifference. Fear. They’re all real. Which inner state will you express? Or more precisely, which state will you express FIRST, as a reflex? The answer is reflected in the natures of any planets in your first house, as well as with the cusp of that house, which we call the Ascendent.
Pluto in the First? Let’s have a look:

OUR HIGH DESTINY
You’ve probably had the misfortune of serving on committees in which the healthy principles of democracy and consensus exhibited their shadowy sides: endless inaction, lengthy obsession with trivial concerns, deadlock. This downward trajectory is often characterized in its early stages by mutual displays of courtesy, respect, and attentiveness. By the end of the process, we typically observe backbiting, scapegoating, and childish vindictiveness reminiscent of a medieval court. And still nothing is accomplished. At such a time, one often longs for real leadership to appear, the sort of leadership that can quickly cut through layers of verbiage and get to the heart of the matter.
Your high destiny involves providing that kind of incisive direction. Such leadership doesn’t need to be cruel or autocratic, but it is not typically much concerned with being liked. Human society needs its truth-sayers, and if they do well in popularity contests it’s generally posthumously. In times of crisis, society needs men and women of action, self-confidence, and steady nerves…..people, such as yourself, who can make painful decisions in ambivalent circumstances quickly and without looking back.
Such sharpness of impact is not simply about galvanizing groups into focused action; it can just as easily be about punching the energizing, challenging truth through to individuals: telling people what they don’t want to hear, in other words. And it does not need to function in face-to-face mode; it can operate less directly, if the rest of the chart favors such an approach. Examples of that latter possibility might exist in journalism, for one possibility.

YOUR DISTORTING WOUND
The first house is a very sensitive area. A planet there is said to be strong in the birth chart. While we all have Pluto in our charts, it would be fair to single you out as a markedly "Plutonian" person, even from very early in life.
Now, a Plutonian person will tend to see the world through Pluto-colored glasses, and that means that you have always been good at seeing the sorts of realities that make people uncomfortable. We live in a world that's full of threatening realities, some serious, some more trivial, but all taboo. I can imagine you as young child at a family reunion. You've overheard some hushed conversations at home, learned some things that no one intended you to know. "Uncle Jack," I hear you exclaiming before the assembled relatives. "What's a bimbo and why are you in love with one?"
Your taboo-sensitive Plutonian radar picked up a certain mishmash of tension and fascination in your parents' voices as they discussed Jack's romantic proclivities. You were not out to hurt anybody. You had no idea that you had stepped into dangerous territory. But, with Pluto in the first house, your natural instinct for action lay in the direction of exploring emotionally charged realities.
Nobody is born knowing what's taboo; we have to learn it. As a Plutonian person, you had a natural hunger to get at that deeper, less comfortable layer of life. But inevitably you were naive.
How does Uncle Jack respond to your query? Unless he himself was a Plutonian type, there's an excellent chance that he punished you for your question. That punishment may have been a sharp, angry word. More likely it was simply a very awkward moment: a pained, clueless look on Uncle Jack's face, then mom or dad to the rescue somehow.....them looking at least as pained as Jack. You never intended it, but you hurt everyone in that tableau. And that itself was your punishment.
You began to learn that there was something about your nature that people found upsetting, unsettling, or plain reprehensible. You were too young to grasp that certain truths are kind only in certain seasons, and sometimes never. You began to carry your Wound: a secretiveness, an inward intensity not to be shared, a caution about expressing yourself spontaneously.
Carrying the Wound angered you. Sometimes that anger leaked out half-intentionally... you knew how to hurt people, and sometimes you'd do it just to release some venom. Perhaps you stayed on that hurtful road; more likely, if you're the sort of person who'd be reading this book in the first place, you overcame that kind of compulsive angry self-presentation. You just held all that fiery truth inside. But it's still a Wound: a dark, bitter self-contained edge in your character. Maybe you show it, maybe not. To some extent, that depends on the "politeness quotient" in the rest of your chart. But it's there.
In a nutshell: the idea that truth-carrying and truth-embodying should be a source of shame does not occur to a child. You walked into that trap, and were scarred by it.
There's more. Anything in the first house tends to radiate visibly and obviously from the personality. With you sending out such Plutonian vibrations, people around you often let you symbolize that part of life for them. And when they are not at ease with Plutonian realities — a fair bet most of the time — they'll have a tendency to project their discomfort onto you, naming you the "bad" one: you're "too intense," "too psychological," "too sexual," "too morbid," whatever. This scapegoating pattern has likely made itself felt at some point in your life, and it too is part of the Wound you carry.

YOUR NAVIGATIONAL ERROR
Like the beer can (with steel in it) sitting by the compass in our earlier parable, your truth-carrier's scar or your scapegoat's wound can distort your course through life. Essentially, you can hold back too much, or express yourself vigorously and passionately but in pointless ways that have little to do with who you really are and what you really feel.
Until the necessary inner work is done, you are vulnerable to finding yourself in situations where you "know too much" but feel incapable of acting on that knowledge. You may, for example, find yourself working for a company that's cutting corners in terms of environmental regulations. Depending on other aspects of your character, you may deal with that reality by becoming cynical, or by rationalizing, or by justifying your choice to work there and keep silence as a prerequisite to feeding your kids or paying your bills.....as though no other jobs existed.
In all those dark expressions, we see the basic mark of Pluto: in each, you are bound to the truth-suppressing self-containment that is characteristic of the unprocessed first house Pluto Wound. Further, those accumulated inner toxins would then add an unpleasant edge to your off-the-job character. The natural, healthy urge to express the truth thus becomes vulnerable to being charged with anger and then misexpressing itself. A classic misexpression of such energy lies in appointing oneself psychologist to "safe" people in one's life. Without intending it, you might act in ways that are too pushy, especially in terms of other people's sensitive zones. Illustration: you might tell your best friend that the reason she's having trouble losing weight is that her excess pounds are really just armor against facing her discomforts around sexuality. And that might very well be the truth. But is she ready to hear it? And will it help her? And why are you really saying it?

If your nature is less psychologically-oriented, we might see inappropriate assumptions of practical authority over others — the "too much advice" syndrome. We can also observe manipulative behavior — and such behavior is usually successful because of your instinctual knowledge of other people's woundedness and hence of where their vulnerabilities lie.
Underlying it all, there would arise a dark, brooding "existentialist" mood — the inevitable mark of low Plutonian energy.
Let's add that the first house has much to do with our ability to act and to make choices. When you are in balance in that department, you naturally choose to function in Plutonian ways — as someone who is inclined to delve, to penetrate, to ferret out truth... and often to lead or inspire others in that regard. But if the Navigational Error dominates, then you become directionless, and slip into a kind of existential attitude of coping reactively with a meaningless universe.
We must emphasize repeatedly that, when talking about Wounds and Navigational Errors, we are never speaking of immutable character defects; we are looking at psychological twists that can be untwisted, thereby freeing energy for vastly more helpful and interesting behaviors.

THE HEALING METHOD
Going beyond first house Plutonian traps is not polite business. To succeed, you have to take two steps: you must face the dark and you must express what you learn to at least one other human being.
Facing the dark can take many forms. Sometimes — but only sometimes — that means doing deep psychological work on oneself. Anyone who has been through the process of real psycho-therapy, including its bleak terrains, has done it.
Other possibilities exist. I am imagining a person volunteering to work in a hospice. Perhaps she approaches the work with idealism but some naivete, expecting lots of "cosmic" experiences around death. If she sticks with it, she'll have some of those high experiences too — but she'll also see a lot of petty, frightened, dispiriting behaviors on the parts of people who are dying exactly the way they lived.
What will come up in our volunteer as she faces these people? All the dimensions of her Plutonian Wound. She'll face some taboo truths in the hospice to be sure; death is the ultimate taboo subject. But she'll also face cynicism, coldness, and anger in herself, and those are the marks of her own wound: the burden of her own silence.
A young man might undertake a Vision Quest in the Native American style. He goes alone into the wilderness, perhaps with armed with crystals, shamanistic fantasies, and naivete. By the second day of his fast, he is terribly hungry, frightened, empty and vulnerable. He feels his death close by, and it's not very inspiring. His Wound rises up — but perhaps something else rises up in him as well. Perhaps he finds something in himself that is strong enough to face all his primal fears, to name them, and to integrate them.
The point is that, with Pluto in the first house, you were born with a capacity to function decisively in the presence of fierce truths. Since even acknowledging those truths is not common practice, you were shamed and punished for having that capacity. The healing process for you lies in placing yourself in situations where that ability to look darkness in the eye and act consciously anyway is necessary and useful. The hospice image illustrates the idea of undertaking the healing process in a public context; therapy or Vision Quest illustrate its more private face. Either method works.
But both methods only begin the process. We must recognize that the first house is quite social. That is, it pertains to our social presentation of ourselves. To complete the healing process, a first house Pluto person must integrate the experience of the dark with his or her outward, social self — and that's where expressing what we learn to another human being comes into the picture.
In the hospice there's an old man dying of cancer. He's pretending he'll be fine. He's cursing his doctors, his nurses, his family. Nothing is good enough. He's obsessed with money, fears he's being robbed. How do you really feel about him? Well, sadness and maybe even compassion for him might figure in your answer. But anyone who sits with such a curmudgeon on a daily basis is going to have saltier emotions to express as well. The first house Pluto person must find somewhere to express all those
thoughts and attitudes, and thereby to integrate that earthy, dark-facing energy into the Self.

THE ENERGIZING VISION
Human culture needs its beads read sometimes. We need people such as yourself who are born with the rare ability to face their own radical fury and their own bleak desolation. We need them, after that personal "descent into Hell," to emerge and help us face the dark in our own lives. You can do it, and you were born for it. You will thrive in an environment where people are up against their most basic issues and fears, willing to face them, but perhaps uncertain of how to do so. When people are ready for the truth, you can step in. You'll help them, of course, but that's only part of the point. The rest of it is that you'll feel alive and energized there.
Something extraordinary happens in you when real human drama unfolds, when people are stripped of their pretenses and posturings and stand naked. Then, they are like dynamite waiting for a match — and the match is a sense of what to do, where to aim all that fire and willingness. The match could be called leadership, and you can provide it. That leadership can unfold in obvious collective ways, such as in a business or a civic group you might influence, or it can be expressed in private, a mind-triggering word uttered to one individual. It might put you in the public eye as a kind of role model, or it might develop more quietly. Those kinds of distinctions can be made astrologically, but only through knowledge of your entire birth chart. Either way, you are at your best in situations of naked honesty, immediacy, and directness. And conversely, you are least comfortable in circumstances where truths are being avoided, hidden behind theatrical veils of form and propriety.


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