posted July 01, 2006 06:50 PM              

Geeeezzzz. I have a the venus mars contacts with D. and chiron/eros/venus..and pluto..... But I still think it is this double frigging whammy---my ascendant exactly on his vertex, and his ascendant exactly on my vertex that makes things always feel so intense.

To make matters more bizarre, the first time we even met 11 years ago, his ascendant at that very moment was sitting on my vertex and my ascendant on his vertex! Please what are the odds.

posted July 01, 2006 06:50 PM              

Geeeezzzz. I have the venus mars contacts with D. and chiron/eros/venus..and pluto..... But I still think it is this double frigging whammy---my ascendant exactly on his vertex, and his ascendant exactly on my vertex that makes things always feel so intense.

To make matters more bizarre, the first time we even met 11 years ago, his ascendant at that very moment was sitting on my vertex and my ascendant on his vertex! Please what are the odds.

posted July 01, 2006 07:18 PM            

- Technically it means -

Platonic - Transcending physical desire and tending toward the purely spiritual or ideal: platonic love.

Plato did not invent the term or the concept that bears his name, but he did see sexual desire as the germ for higher loves.

posted July 01, 2006 07:20 PM              

I don't think that's what astrojunkie was implying. My boyfriend and I don't have a venus/mars aspect, and well.. let's just say I'm satisfied. But we DO have a venus/mars conjunction in the composite chart.

Astro-

posted July 02, 2006 10:59 AM              

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My ex who I was with for 3 years, MY pluto was on his Vertex. The relationship molded him into a different person. He was CRAZY about me.

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My Pluto is on his Vertex with tight orb. I do not know whether he is crazy about me or not. I would like to know too. But for sure, I am crazy about him! Since my Pluto oppose my Venus, then his Anti-Vertex conjunct my Venus. I know that this Anti-Vertex thing is also strong. Based on discussions for the past few weeks on Vertex, Vertex person should feel more actually. I wish so. Now I feel the opposite. I am the person who feels more. Actually, I do not know his a real feeling since he never commit that he loves me that way.

However, 2 years ago when there were a lot of quindecile aspects in Solar Arc progression, he was quite obsessed with me.

His Psyche/Eros midpoint quindecile my Moon
His Moon/Cupido midpoint quindecile my Moon
His Venus/Moon midpoint quindecile my Sun
His Venus/Sun midpoint quindecile my Sun

All these aspects are EXACT with 0 orb. By the way, when I use Solar Arc, I also use solstice point for my Sun and my Moon. Anyway his feeling may gone already.

For Venus/Mar issue:

My Venus quintile his Mar
In Davidson composite chart, Venus conjunct Mar (4 degree orb)
In Midpoint composite chart, Venus semi-sextile Mar (0 degree orb)

I do not know whether it is strong enough to make HIM feel that this is not only friendship or not.

By the way, the Vertex thing is TOO strong for me. I told him last month that I would move on my life. He did not say any words. Then I keep meeting him accidentally in town 4 times since then. Today, I am so scared to go out of home! Too much Déjà vu is not good feeling for me since I do not know the reason why the world is forcing us to meet.

posted July 02, 2006 08:05 PM              

Yes. You are correct. It is love at first sight for me. After 15 minute talk, I felt that I had long been waiting for him for my entire life. I felt in love with him. Actually, we talked about business stuff only like changing name cards, etc. I met him accidentally in Germany when I were on my business trip. Then I met him second time in Hong Kong. After that, he kept calling me for 6 months till I could not resist to actually love him deeply and intensely. He has been in my mind every minute since then. Then, he said that he really cared me a lot but the feeling was just friendship.

I feel that he is my twin soul. And he also thinks that I probably his soulmate.

However, now, I know that he would not say that he loves me the same way I love him. So, I would like to see whether astrology would tell me or not.

Regarding 11th house in composite chart, we have Mar and NN.

My Moon is in his 11th house.

posted July 12, 2006 11:31 PM              

I was thinking more in line with what Lauren said, about the definition of "platonic" ...

Example: Although I have a lot of sensual/sexual stuff going on in my Chart, I would rather have a plantonic relationship FIRST, before sex. To me, there are very few things in life as beautiful as rising above purely physical needs.

posted July 13, 2006 04:52 AM              

I think this is the glue that holds me and my lady together:

Sun Conjunct Venus - one of the best aspects for good SINCERE honest to goodness LOVE. I think this is good for couples because it adds that degree of always feeling like friends no matter how deeply in love you are. maybe we can call it the "best friend aspect" (for lovers too of course)

I find that the following add a nice balance to our relationship (my take on the aspects follow the aspect, I am trying to learn):

Mercury Conjunct Jupiter - Our ability to DETACH (when needed) from the relationship and look at it for whats its worth. I think this will allow us to positivly correct problems and change for the better together.

Sun Conjunct Mercury - this is a very positive aspect because of the MENTAL stimulation. Indeed, we have talks that go late into the night, sometimes 4 or 5! We are two lovebirds figuring out our place in the world. down fall: maybe even to the point where emotions play second or third fiddle (behind physical too)

Mars Sextile Jupiter - Our EGOS are in sync with each other. We feel comfortable having alone time, letting each other hang with friends, maybe even COMFORTABLE with distance, and are always confident that the other will return. no jealousy with this aspect. though that can be found elsewhere, afterall we are scorpio and taurus)

Sun Sextile Uranus - I think this would add a (positive) INNOVATIVE quality to the relationship..we want to meet people together and travel. change the world together.

Mercury Conjunct Venus - we feel free and comfortable expressing deep EMOTIONS (while many others would run scared with such strong feelings).

Venus Sextile Uranus - free to be an INDIVIDUAL. a positive aspect for PERSONAL growth in connection with partner.

Mercury Square Ascendant - not a typical square in that it allows us to anaylze things objectively. with the aspects listed above, this aspect can only be positive. we are interested in the WHOLE (us) rather than the sum (self centered or indviudual).

Jupiter Square Ascendant - another positive square in my honest opinion. this helps for the FUTURE. we will plan together and travel.

Jupiter Sextile Saturn - add some REALISM and PRACTICALITY (not that we do not dream )

Neptune Trine Ascendant SPIRTUAL. Indeed we open each others eyes to many things. Also a deeply ROMANTIC aspect.

Pluto Opposition Ascendant - INTESNITY baby. energy too. I really don't think this is a bad opposition to have. there will be no problems with power struggles because of previously mentioned aspects which weaken the negatives of this one.

Moon Trine Pluto - INTIMACY is deep.

aspects that may hinder us:

Mars Trine Saturn: I think this would cause us to fall into patterns, in an emotional sense. which is not good when something needs to be expressed or problems addressed. we find a certian comfort level in certian areas when advancement is maybe the better (not always easier) route. this points towards some barriers beyond our control I believe.

Sun Square Pluto: power struggles, on a subconcious level. however, we will change each other. period. we hae have already. this adds a very deep quality to our experience together.

Venus Square Saturn - a hot cold aspect. many unavoidable things (distance) may get in the way.

Mercury Square Pluto - may spell trouble for our differing spirtual views.

Jupiter Square Pluto - possible jealousy issues as far as the other succedding. I am jealous of all the travels she has done, but I have admitted it. and we will travel together.

Moon Opposition Neptune - in other words, please stop sugar coating things..tell it like it is as rare 60s/70s folk rock artist Bill Fay says!

Mars Square Neptune - ego games...

please..this aspect is not a problem

some other aspects:

Sun Square Saturn
Moon Sextile Ascendant
Moon Square Mars
Neptune Sextile Pluto

questions

somewhere there must be an aspect that describes these two feelings:

we alternate between being a verbally) goofy (in a good fun loving way) couple and being very sexual. its a pretty cool paradox and both are very positive but I wonder what would point towards that. as if there is a gemini influence in there. I think my chrion is gemini and maybe a few asteroids. maybe they form an aspect with something of hers...almost a positive two faced aspect..

I noticed she was tentative at first..because of the soon to be distance but was just overwelmed by positive feelings and gave in to those feeling and said screw distance..so her emotional state was almost like an eruption. I did the pursuing..at first, the convincing that distance would not do us in. but finally I let down on that convincing and decided to let her make the decsion, as if I were setting her free (in a mental way). and she came back to me for 5 days after a 2 week vacation (she planned before meeting me and cut it short to be with me) and boy were those 5 days intense. we figured out a lot. but my love is more gradual in its buildup. or maybe its that cap asc, mars and jupiter hiding things. I wonder if there is an aspect that points towards those kinds of feelings....

lastly,
can someone help me with finding aspects that point towards connections with the north node. people have stated that is important but I could not find a place to go to get that calcualated.

I want to know if there are any strong bonds between either of our NODES with anything else. and also people have mentioned anti vertex and quindecile. can someone please help me in finding those three. me and this girl have a deep connection and I think the anwser is barried deep in our chart. we feel strongly and know this is something that not everyone gets to experience. if you wouldn't mind

posted July 13, 2006 07:34 AM              

I think Vertex drives me crazy about him. And he doesn't show it that way... may be he's just colder by nature, or he's scared. I don't know whether the Vertex person shoul feel more but I - being the Moon here - I am totally crazy 'bout him. And I could't do anything, I was trying to leave him hundreds of times and keep going back, and back and back. He just sits there and observes.

posted July 14, 2006 04:56 PM              

Your Saturn and Sun conjunct her South Node
Her South Node conjunct your Sun.
Your North Node conjunct her Mar
You can find Northnode or Vertex aspects in astro.com.

Her Northnode quindecile your Pluto

kittie
I really really understand your feeling. I keep thinking whether he is obsessive with me as well but he did not show his feeling OR the Vertex make me be more crazy about him. I have been thinking of one guy every minute for 2 years. When we separated, no one was happy. We had to come back again and again. Now, I give up myself to run away from him. My Moon, Sun, NN, Psyche/Eros midpoint all quindecile his Sun!
My Venus quindecile his Venus. I am not quite sure about the meaning.
My Mercury quindecile his Mercury. This one makes us have to talk talk talk about everything. If a leaf falls from the tree, I have to tell him. Something like that.
My Sappho quindecile his Sappho. I do not know what it means too.

I think you may have some quindeciles aspects with this guy. Do your Sun/Moon midpoint aspect his planet?

posted July 15, 2006 03:31 AM              

I don't know whether I have quindecile aspects with him - what exactly is quindecile? And how does it look - as a symbol?

posted July 15, 2006 08:28 AM              

What do you think:
Im Sag/Sag, he Gem/Gem;
His Moon conjucts my Asc, Sun, Neptune, Mars, Mercury and Psyche (all in Sag - my 1. his 6th)
Also, his P. fort. in my 1.
My Venus, Moon, Uranus, P.fort and Eros conjucts his Lilith,Neptune,Vertex and Psyche (all in his 5th, my 11th - Sco)
In his 5th my Pluto...
His Venus, Mercury and Amor conjucts my Karma (in his 12, Tau)
My Vertex conjucts his NN (in Leo, my 8, his 2.)- so, also mu Anti Vertex 0 his SN.
My SN conjucts his Chiron.
My NN conjucts his Vesta,
My Saturn conjucts his Pluto
My Moon and Venus sextiles his Mars, Uranus and Pluto, and trine his Chiron, AC, MC
His Venus trines my Saturn and NN
His Moon trins my Jupiter and square my Saturn
His Sun squares my Saturn, and opposes my Mercury, Mars, Neptune, Psyche and Ac
My Sun squares his Mars, Uranus, Pluto, Chiron and MC...
and much more, but this is more than enough

posted July 17, 2006 05:51 PM              

Thanks for asking... he's still running... he'd be about to Cali. by now I'd guess... haha I've read alot lately on twin souls and then soulmates- I know he is a soulmate/a karmic relationship, could be a twin soul but I hesitate to talk about that. I list our aspects off the top of my head, as this relationship has had a huge impact upon me and should be the 'love of my life' ... which the synastry only seems to confirm.

Suns in same sign, although not conjunct
Conjunct moons
Sextiled venuses
Sextiled mars
Venus conjunct mars- double whammy
Sun trine pluto; sun square pluto
Sun trine moon; sun square moon
Sun conjunct merc.- double whammy
His mars conjunct my sun
His venus sextile my sun
My venus square his pluto
My moon conjunct his neptune
My moon trine his saturn
My NN conjunct his venus
My moon square his venus
His moon square my mars
His sun in my 7th house
My venus in his 7th house
My sun in his 8th house

These are just the biggies off the top of my head. Composite is a 7th house sun, and mars/venus in the 8th house, with a mars-venus conjunction.

posted July 30, 2006 04:43 AM            

Here is the synastry of my gal and me.

Hers to mine:

Pisces Ascendant oppose Virgo Ascendant('16)
Ascendant contraparallel Ascendant('06)
Venus in Taurus trine Virgo Ascendant('03)
Moon in Scorpio conjunct Sun in Scorpio(3'56)
Moon trine Moon in Pisces(1'47)
Sun in Aries trine Jupiter inSagittarius('57)
Sun in sextile Saturn in Gemini(4'06)
Sun sextile Midheaven in Gemini(2'00)
Sun sextile North Node in Aquarius(1'15)
Mercury in Aries oppose Uranus in Libra(1'51)
Mercury contraparallel Uranus('44)
Mercury sextile Midheaven(2'13)
Mercury sextile North Node (2'58)
Venus in Taurus oppose Mercury in Scorpio(4'57)
Mars in Aries sextile Mars in Aqaurius('25)
Stationary Jupiter conjunct Jupiter(2'38)
Stationary Jupiter square Ascendant(2'32)
Stationary Jupiter conjunct IC('19)
Saturn trine Moon('26)
Saturn conjunct Sun(2'35)
Uranus conjunct Jupiter('43)
Uranus parallel Jupiter('30)
Uranus oppose Midheaven(2'14)
Neptune parallel Midheaven('04)
Stationary Neptune sextile Moon(3'57)
Stationary Neptune sextile Mars(3'20)
Ascendant trine Mercury(4'38)
Ascendant square Midheaven(2'29)
Midheaven sextile Mars(3'13)
North Node trine Mars(2'31)

Strong Water House and 8th house synastry:
Her Sun,Mercury,Mars in my 8th house
Her Stationary Neptune in my 4th parallel my IC
Her Stationary Jupiter conjunct my IC(4th house cusp)
My Sun,Mercury,Venus in her 8th house
My Moon and Mars in her 12th house

Midpoints:

Her Sun oppose my Sun/Ascendant ('10)
Her Venus oppose my Sun/Venus ('10)
Her Mars oppose my Venus/Pluto ('51)
Her Midheaven conjunct my Sun/Node ('14)
Her Moon conjunct my Neptune/Pluto ('04)
Her Sun square my Venus/Mars ('23)
Her Venus square my Uranus/Midheaven('08)
Her Midheaven square my Pluto/Ascendant ('32)
Her stationary Neptune square my Uranus/Ascendant ('08)
Her Mercury square my Moon/Venus ('58)
Her stationary Neptune semisquare my Sun/Venus ('40)
Her Moon semisquare my Moon/Pluto ('37)
Her stationary Jupiter semisquares my Jupiter/Ascendant ('03)
Her stationary Jupiter semisquares my Venus/Pluto ('24)

My Sun oppose her Venus/Mars ('54)
My Sun oppose her Ascendant/Node ('43)
My Moon conjunct her Venus/Midheaven ('09)
My Venus conjunct her Moon/Jupiter ('38)
My Mars conjunct her Venus/Uranus ('18)
My Node conjunct her Sun/Jupiter ('25)
My Sun square her Venus/Pluto ('42)
My Venus square her Mercury/Neptune ('27)
My Midheaven semisquare her Sun/Venus ('05)
My Node semisquare her Midheaven/Node ('03)
My Venus semisquare her Pluto/Ascendant ('36)
My Venus semisquare her Moon/Ascendant ('46)
My Ascendant semisquare her Mercury/Venus ('02)
My Ascendant semisquare her Moon/Mars ('01)
My Moon semisquare her Sun/Pluto ('46)
My Moon semisquare her Sun/Mars ('50)

MINOR ASPECTS:

Meghann's Sun decile Raymond's Moon ('03)
Meghann's Sun triseptile Raymond's Sun ('23)
Raymond's Moon novile Meghann's Mercury ('16)
Meghann's Mercury biquintile Raymond's Mercury (1'07)
Meghann's Mercury septile Raymond's Saturn
Raymond's Moon quintile Meghann's Venus (1'47)
Meghann's Mars biquintile Raymond's Neptune ('20)
Meghann's Venus triseptile Raymond's Jupiter ('50)
Raymond's Moon septile Meghann's Mars ('52)
Raymond's Venus triseptile Meghann's Mars ('36)
Meghann's Mars novile Raymond's Saturn (21)
Raymond's Sun decile Meghann's Jupiter ('25)
Meghann's stationary Neptune novile Raymond's Mercury ('53)
Raymond's Moon biquintile Meghann's Midheaven (1'30)

AFFINITIES:

her Moon sextile stationary Neptune affinity with my Moon in Pisces and square Neptune
Her Mars trine Neptune affinity with my Mars square Neptune
Her Moon conjunct Saturn affinity with my Moon square Saturn
Her Moon in Scorpio,Moon conjunct Pluto affinity with my Moon quincunx Pluto
Her Moon oppose Mars affinity with my Moon conjunct Mars
her Mars oppose Pluto affinity with my Mars biquintile/Contraparallel Pluto
Her Venus sesquiquadrate Neptune affinity with my Venus parallel Neptune