posted July 26, 2013 11:15 PM
I would agree with many here who have indicated Sun, Moon, ASC, NN, Vertex close synastry is important for significant relationships. and I would also agree that Venus has to make significant aspects,
and that it seems correct that Mars/Saturn and Sun/Saturn in synastry is important.
I have a most unusual connection with a guy that doesn't seem to dissolve despite my evasiveness and despite his player characteristics making it a no go for me. The following is a long and arduous read so most may not be interested. I believe I can sense/channel/read sensations that aspects give so here is my swing on things. I normally read a composite to get a summary of the energies and how the relationship will play out but I can't fully read the composite.
When I look through the aspect grid on astro.com, I have indicated what the sensation is for each of us.
My Sun trine his Chiron (2*30)- this seems to knock the wind out of his sails like as if he can't try too much falseness with me or something. Both of us would retain a memory of the other that would surface fairly regularly.
My Sun square his ASC (0*56) - this makes him feel a glorified, smug feeling over me, like he has a sensation 'ha,I am so running rings around you/more optimal than you' etc. It doesn't make for an ongoing connection though and it could represent passing ships in the night if there were not other significant tying together aspects.
My Moon trine his Sun (8*46), is significant for both but it wouldn't make for a compulsion to stay involved - it seems very strengthening and kind of healing on his side, and my sensations are kind of like I am slightly dumbed down into submission but I can like afford him that it seems.
Moon sextiles Moon (5*23), I feel slightly 'rewarded' by this but I can still feel the almost submissive quality of the previous aspect above - also I can sense there is something else effecting my moon from his side and it almost gives me a headache so I will see where that is later in the aspect grid. His Moon in the sextiles to mine feels like a caring sensation on his part, like he wants to be aware of me, how I am feeling and what I am doing etc. This feels like an ongoing 'sink' of awareness and emotion regarding each other being in the world.
My Moon trine his Mercury (5*08) is a non-event for him and has a slight aggravation despite it being a trine. I kind of feel a sense of satisfaction with it - like I can sense him, and he doesn't like that. This is not an ongoing attraction aspect especially on his part.
My Moon trine his Mars (2*32), comes up with 'glaringly obvious' as some words that come to mind. He feels kind of a sense of 'oh yeah, we have a connection going on here,lol' and I on the otherhand sense this one as 'o-oh...' like I feel naked and am trying to cover my female bits/and feminine qualities/essences. This is an attraction aspect mainly on his part.
My Moon square his Saturn (9*42), I immediately feel his hard work for me, like I hate it - but at the same time, some other Moon function can acknowledge an appreciation of him. His sensation in this feels like he is so hard line and black and white and I think it is to do with loyalty and recognition of him - like he has an authority over me and I better not disrespect him or muck up his situation - so I feel I have to toe the line.
My Moon quincunx his Uranus (0*12) - I feel ok but wary, he feels faintly disturbed in this. We would probably tend to avoid each other if this is all we had between us. It could turn worthwhile with development via other means but generally we don't like it.
My Moon opposing his Neptune (5*22) - it has an interesting feel to us. He is intrigued and a little unnerved, I am kind of put off by him and faintly turned on by him in this aspect. Not significant for staying involved, however there is a sensation to this that has like something surfacing from some other dimension that is not initially to the fore and possibly becomes more into focus over time or with more experience and connection established emotion/body wise.
My Moon trine his Pluto (5*22)- we love this, both of us. He feels very much like he likes a depth of knowing/intimacy between us - almost like core acceptance and tangible rightness between us, and I feel 'wow, I have to stop and give you credit - like you are important to me'. It doesn't make for ongoing involvement on its own though.
My Moon square his MC (4*06)- I kind of hate him for this again, and he seems kind of smug and chuckling like 'oops, am I running circles around you again, lol' - but on some level he appreciates me like the struggles I may have been through, and on some level I appreciate the goals he achieves in life in general. There is some degree of long termness with this but not on its own.
My Mercury trine his Chiron (1*28) is not significantly felt by either in terms of ongoing compulsion to stay involved.
My Mercury square his ASC (1*57) is definitely significant, however Mercury rules my Sun and Moon. So I feel it as, 'got ya!' and he feels it like a fish would feel when its been hooked, so there is an ongoing involvement indicated by this - for better or worse.
My Venus opposing his Sun (9*22) is kind of attempted to be disregarded on my part, but is not on his - he can not help but admire me in this aspect - and there is a faint sorrow in it - like he thinks he is at the mercy of my whims, and I on the otherhand feel a little cranky like I must be decent towards him and make allowances for him or something. (I sound very conceited in all these aspects - and I know I am competitive - I think I should tell him not to give me a second thought anymore).
My Venus trine his Moon (6*00) is quite nice for both of us, he feels he has to appreciate me, I feel like he must do that too - not really significant in terms of long termness - but definitely not insignificant either.
My Venus opposing his Mercury (4*32) - another 'got ya! aspect but more satisfaction on his part and possibly a little kind of 'hmmf' on my part - feels fairly significant in terms of ongoingness.
My Venus opposing his Mars (1*56) is a very big sensation seems more so on my part. Like I think 'oh my god, you are either going to kill me or love me to death - so a sense of doom and fatedness - kind of like a fabled romance that will be significant and will likely involve some degree of difficulty - or distress due to the desires not likely to be always fulfilled. His sensation is that he is turned on by me - but there is a faint annoyance in this for him. I feel like a rabbit in the spotlight, he's not sure whether he would like to kick me (hopefully he wouldn't). There is an ongoing attraction here that doesn't change even if we are no longer involved.
My Venus square his Uranus (0*24) feels significant but could fizzle, so it has the traditional connotation that its a good significator for meeting or a hook up but other aspects would be required to stay involved. I kind of feel a sense of satisfaction like I have lured him, and on his part it feels like 'damn, you have that one over me - ok lets crank things up - let the games begin'.
My Venus trine his Neptune (5*58), this has an ongoingness to it. I feel like I like him and want to keep him in my 'attraction sector/arena'. He feels like he is beguiled and faintly wowed by me and would like to know my whereabouts over time.
My Venus sextiles his Pluto (5*59), I am totally overwhelmed by him - like I am ignorant/naïve/powerless to his influence over my situation. He on the otherhand seems to barely be aware of it (which surprises me) - its like he only faintly would be aware of me with this - and may generally feel things like I am rude or too distant to not introduce myself properly to him. This is a strange aspect as it feels like I am very aware of him, and over time my presence however would like go through layers with him so that the more involved we became it would slowly dawn on him through chunks/layers and eventually he would realize the power he had over me - which I had initially felt with this aspect.
My Mars opposing his Venus (2*24) - I feel guilty/ashamed of myself when I view the sensation of this aspect on my because I feel like a shark with him in my sights. He on the otherhand doesn't seem to mind it like as if he feels he has a few cards up his sleeve to play in defence. There doesn't feel an ongoing attraction majorly on either part with this despite us having the opposite close aspect as well - maybe when I was the Venus(female) and he was Mars(male) it had a different impact.
My Mars sextiles his Jupiter (0*44)- I like this and it has a good feel between us like we regard each other with tangible benevolence - I appreciate his wisdom and good will, he feels like we can do good things together - and there is a health sexual connection too - like he has not qualms with giving himself and I look forward to the involvement(oops) - there's also a feel like we could study together or work on projects and great endeavours together. I like this aspect and it seems a good one to have but doesn't speak of definite ongoingness.
My Mars sextiles his Saturn (0*06)- wow this definitely is a stunner aspect - which surprises me. Its like I have star quality to him - like he could invest time in me because I am worth it to him. I on the otherhand feel like I appreciate the status he seems to afford me and it seems to enhance my self esteem. He feels like he puts ground work in to be able to back up his feelings that I have exceptional-ness about me - like if I ever seem to fall from grace - he can refer back to his notes on why I am still esteemed by him regardless. I feel this is a very fortunate aspect and seems to have ongoing exceptional regard for one another based on the fact that I seem to have good standards, and he is like an ace person in my regard too. Like mutual great regard with substance.
My Mars conjunct his North Node (1*38) - this feels like a doozy coming in from elsewhere and seems to hold significance in terms of like a fated meeting. I don't feel a lot here but something akin to a job for me to attend to. He feels like he is so excited for more from our connection - like can't wait to see what happens (also the conjunction is in his 8th house :rolleyes . If there wasn't ongoingness with this, I would feel faintly relieved, he would feel annoyance like taking candy from a baby, lol. But it does feel like there are 'legs' to the connection.
My Mars square his Chiron (4*19) I don't particularly like - seems like difficult to me or that my behaviour will be under question. He likes it like, 'hmm, so you are going to have to be upfront about this now aren't you'. Not ongoing of itself.
My Mars trine his ASC (7*44) is felt but sort of annoying on my part, and on his, he likes it, like feathers in his cap, that I have to abide by his lead or something. Has a reasonable feel of ongoing sensation.
My Mars sextiles his MC (5*29)no major sensations, slight further beneficiality felt by him.
My Jupiter square his Moon (2*41)- no big deal.
My Saturn opposing his MC (6*42) seems reasonably important - I feel it as I acknowledge his importance in general, he seems to appreciate my attitude to him.
My Uranus square the AC (2*46) is disrespectful on my part, like I'm saying whatever babe, and kind of affrontedness on his part. Has a slight ongoing awareness of one another.
My Neptune square his Sun (1*05)neither of us like very much. I don't feel or seem very consistent, he feels disappointed and put off - has an ongoing quality - that would generally deter us both.
My Pluto square his ASC (1*11)- has an ongoing quality, seems to be felt by me like I regard him fairly well after much soul searching. He seems to feel it like possibly one would hope that a partner is going to go through with something and stick to it.
My North Node square his Sun (2*35) has a definite significant and fated quality. I feel like finally I have found someone that I can regard as important to me. He feels kind of like I am a chore to him but feels he might just stay in contact and get to know more about me. If he didn't like me over time - he would tend to feel I am an ongoing thorn in his side. If I didn't like him over time or was put off etc, I would feel like a failure or like sad that things weren't sorted out or we couldn't work it out.
My Chiron semi-sextiles his Moon (0*01) and quincunx his Pluto (0*00) is important but I can not understand the significance - his exact Moon-Pluto opposition natally impacts his personality in a big way. My Chiron in contact with it by these aspects feels like I have a step by step instruction manual that I am not consciously aware of. He has like this contorted pain that comes to the fore with my Chiron aspects to it. Its like my Chiron affects his opposition by his own self discovery with it or something - its like an event aspect for the time we know each other but of itself doesn't indicate long term involvement.
My ASC conjunct his Venus (2*03) feels important. On my part I am so grateful for his regard for me and his gracefulness kind of enhancing my life. On his part he seems besotted with me and could almost hate me because of the impact and potential impact I am having on him. This feels like life time attraction.
My ASC trine his Jupiter (5*10) and Saturn (4*33) (conj), feels kind of nice and it goes both ways, like we both like knowing one another. He could benefit my situation and lend some kind of organising quality. I like having him in my list of people I like to be associated with.
My ASC opposing his North Node (6*02)this feels like a real worry to both of us. For me I feel concern for him but worried about unpredictableness on his part. For him, he feels a mixture of fear/nervy excitement/and meaness or something. This also feels like fatedness.
My ASC trine his MC (1*03) seems like being in the right time, right place to meet up with one another and to carry out some kind of scene with one another.
My MC opposing his Moon (7*22)feels significant. I feel grateful and somehow sad about him. He feels kind of excited and a little nervous or something about me. There is a type of fatedness and depth to this aspect too, despite the orb.
My MC square his Venus (5*13) feels ongoing but a little dependent on other aspects. Has some similar qualities to the above aspect. I feel I can feel the awkwardness he has felt from his foreign-ness in fitting in to Australia. He seems like he is trying not to upset me or seem too different. I feel like I can appreciate his concerns and so tend to try and make things easier for he and I to relate to one another and others.
My MC trine his Mars (0*34), I like this aspect and it feels like he does too. This makes me feel like he wants us to get out there and do stuff, and I feel kind of enthused and motivated by him. He somehow enhances my confidence and he seems to like my approach to things. Of itself it is not really ongoing but when we are together we would feel like we are good together for what we are getting out of life.
My MC conjunct Pluto (7*21) feels very significant and maybe like only one of is going to be left standing - so how this would play out in an ongoing relationship - I think is that he has to succeed above me in power at all costs and he would do anything to destroy my regard for myself or what I mean to him - which seems weird when I look back at some of the other great aspects. I think he would resort to throwing a sexual/power liaison/betrayal up in my face just when I am thinking we are totally one with each other. So supreme vindictiveness it feel like and totally destruction. If there is a regenerative quality in it, I would say that on some level, I have finally acknowledged what he really means to me after having experienced the destruction. On his part I think he would finally feel vilified, and this would generally assuage the feelings of not being together because he would constantly be aware that I would be feeling absolute horror at how he has destroyed me and cast me aside in such a fashion. Its like he has a deep rage towards me that has been brewing for a long time.
Hmm, difficult....
And the Vertex, well his Vertex conjuncts my DSC (3*26) and Jupiter (4*26) and Mars (7*53) this feels combined like we are a good fit with each other and we both feel like that. He some how turns me on in this sensation and he somehow wants to protect and usher me throughout life.
My Vertex opposes his Uranus (3*24) and squares his Sun (5*34) this feels like another fated quality however, he is cranky and I am sort of shaking in my boots.
Cripes, what did I do somewhere in the scheme of things. Already, some of the meanness and vindictiveness has surfaced on his part, and already I have kind of been skipping out, blocking him or kind of dropping out of any involvement. He's a big player of games, deceptive, a liar of sorts, and a flirt, and he is in some kind of long distance long term relationship and is 15yrs younger than me. It has the hallmarks of something I don't want to get involved in - its too complicated, so I'm trying to stay well clear of it. I think I can do this, but he keeps somehow reconnecting with me, and he is charming so its hard to totally disregard him. So far I have been able to keep it platonic.
I think what it is about is that he has a huge propensity to behave like this in close relationships and generally I seem to have enough attraction power over him for some reason and this combines with having some insight into his behaviours, so am kind of thwarting him and because he has Moon in Aries opposition Pluto, he really likes to get his own way and be like a successor. Its interesting but I can't see how it will play out. Seems too much hard work to me.