posted June 26, 2006 06:29 PM              

For myself, I can list only intense aaspects as follows:
Anti-vertex conjunct Venus
Venus quindecile Pluto
Sun/Moon midpoint oppose Sun

What do you have?

posted June 27, 2006 01:33 PM              

-our moons are trined
-our venuses are trined
-my sun is sextile his moon
-my moon is conjunct his ascendant
-my venus is conjunct his ascendant
-my venus is conjunct his pluto (I've had this in other relationships also - it's intense.)
-my sun conjuncts his jupiter and his jupiter trines my sun
-my moon trines his jupiter and his jupiter sextiles my moon
-my sun, mars, & mercury sextile his saturn, my moon conjuncts his saturn, and my jupiter trines his saturn,.. I think there's more but they're all with his saturn.

posted June 27, 2006 04:05 PM            

Sun Conjunct Moon

With Sun conjunct Moon in the composite chart, the two of you will have a single- mindedness of purpose that is usually lacking in other relationships. This aspect is especially good in the chart of a love relationship. It indicates that you are truly complementary partners.

Your relationship has the potential for bringing something new into the world. This position indicates that you are somehow more complete as a partnership than as individuals.

Sun Conjunct Venus

The conjunction of Sun and Venus in the composite chart is one of the strongest indications of a love relationship between two people, even in a friendship. It does not primarily indicate a sexual relationship; instead it signifies love, pure and simple. The attraction indicated by this aspect is so powerful that it can bring together people who are incompatible by ordinary criteria.

If the relationship is laden with conflicts, even a strong feeling of love between you may turn to hatred. In most cases, however, this will be a very fine personal relationship.

Moon Conjunct Venus

The conjunction of composite Moon and composite Venus is a most positive aspect for any personal relationship. It indicates a strong feeling of love between you that you will express openly. The relationship may even have something of a dreamy quality, as if it were too beautiful to be true.

The basic inner strength of this relationship should be great enough to overcome all but the worst problems.

In general, this is one of the most positive and useful aspects that a composite chart can have for a successful personal relationship.

posted June 27, 2006 04:12 PM            

my Ascendant and Sun are opposed eachother in Capricorn and Cancer. Now, my bf's nearer sun/moon midpoint is in capricorn and his far midpoint is in cancer. My sun and ASC sit on BOTH of them. Now, I don't know about the "love of my life" thing, but wanted to be with him for a long time before it actually happened. Apparently, the feeling was mutual.

We also have the venus-northnode conjuction, but I can't tell which is which as all I know is my feelings.

Selena, I feel relieved that you say most couples have the mars-saturn aspect because me and my bf have the square. Everytime I read about it, I cringe. Ita always goes something like "the relationship is doomed" or something like that. He's the mars, I'm the saturn. I also have the aspect in my own natal chart and it can be a real doozie sometimes.

posted June 27, 2006 06:09 PM            

Dulce - I have many couples in my little "database" with Saturn square Mars, some of them long time married and very happy. I think that Prince Charles and Camilla have the square between the two, well, they seem blissfully happy to me!

Not all, but almost all of the couples I know have some Saturn-Mars aspect, a few of them a conjunction.
I don't believe in those articles that write of Saturn/Mars as automatically doomed.
It often looks to me that people just copy the same thing from one another when they write about some aspects, without the real observations and experience.

I mean, if you read things on the Internet, and even in some books, they all sound the same, as if people were just copying and pasting the same old things again and again. Even the wording is the same, like the broken record!

Now, I am not saying that these aspects are necesserilly "good", but they are not neccessarilly "bad" either, it depends on so many other things.

Put it this way, in some cases, Saturn-Mars aspects can mean long-term sexual attraction, Mars meaning sex and passion, Saturn meaning longevity and commitment. It all depends whether people are "using" positive or negative side of these planets, and how aware they are of their own natures.
If people can handle the Mars/Saturn energies constructively, these aspects can be, and are positive. Too many couples have them, for them to be disregarded automatically as negative, I am not buying into that!
Honestly, I noticed so many people having Mars-Saturn, that I am going to pay more attention to these two in synastries in the future. For instance, Prince William and Kate Middleton have the conjunction, if her date of birth given on the internet is correct. Also, Warren Beaty and Annette Benning, they've been together forever, 4 kids. The list goes on.
It is almost that in some cases this aspect does contribute to longevity of the couple, but please check this for yourselves, I am just writing my own observations.

Also, for Venus and Pluto - similar thing. When I was born, Pluto was in Virgo, so anyone who had Venus in Virgo (many Leos, Virgos, Libras, Cancers etc.) would have their Venus conjunct my Pluto.
In this regard, I am sorry to say, I don't agree with Linda Goodman that this is "the" soulmate aspect, as there are just too many people who would have it in the same generation, many of them on the exact degree. I actually know people with Venus in Virgo, who in their class at school, had several other people whose Pluto exactly conjoined their Virgo Venus. All of them soulmates? I don't think so, the influence is just too generational. Venus-Pluto certainly deepens the connection, but without the major Sun, Moon, Asc aspects, Venus-Pluto doen't mean too much.
I suppose that for this reason BlueEyes had several Venus-Pluto conjunctions with other people, because her Venus is in the sign in which Pluto was residing for a long time. But without her other GREAT connections in synastry, this aspect would probably not have been felt so strongly.

I mean, what do we do with all these people who have Venuses in signs in which Pluto was positioned hundreds of years ago (like Aquarius or Pisces etc)? Their Venus will never conjunct anyone's Pluto, simply because Pluto was in these signs so long ago, there are no more people alive with Pluto in Aquarius. So, does it mean they will never meat their soul-mate? I don't think so.

I am not trying to negate the importance of Venus-Pluto, it certainly have some influence, but we must keep in mind that Pluto moves so slowly, and if we have Venus in Virgo, Leo, Libra etc. we are likely to meet many people whose Pluto conjunct our Venus, even tightly, because Pluto moves so slowly, so whole generations of people will have this aspect with us.

But to meet someone whose Sun tightly conjuncts or trines our Moon is harder, because Moon moves so quickly, you blink and it had already moved away a degree or two.
Anyway, these are just my observations, I am very happy with dissagreeing opinions, that's why we are here for : we agree to disagree .

And in most of the posts above, there are noticable, and often numerous connections between people's primary planets (Sun,Moon, Asc) and this is where the real "love" lies, everything else is a supporting/modyfing act.

Doesn't even Linda Goodman in her Love signs, always emhasises Sun-Moon aspects (especially positive ones) as the main indication of people's soulmate connections? If you read all the combinations of Love Signs (I read them all), in every combination she is mentioning the pivotal meaning of Sun-Moon trines, sextiles and conjunctions. I also noticed that oppositions also mean strong ties, but we are talking here what Linda thought, and this is just the so called positive aspects between the two.

posted June 27, 2006 11:18 PM              

"It often looks to me that people just copy the same thing from one another when they write about some aspects, without the real observations and experience."

ahhh I couldn't agree with you more! I hate that. I only have one astrology book, so I can't speak for that, but it's SO repetitive on every astrology site I go to.

posted June 28, 2006 01:57 AM              

second look again, we have chiron+ NN double whammies on the top of his sun conjunct my NN conjunct.

with his sun conjunct my IC, my venus conjunct his AC.

my sun sextile his moon, my venus sextile his moon & venus. AC sextile AC

we also have saturn saturn conjunction

posted June 28, 2006 04:07 AM              

- my Sun trines his Moon
- my Sun sextiles his Venus
- my Sun sextiles his Saturn
- his Sun squares my Sun/Moon midpoint
- my Moon opposes his Venus
- his Moon conjuncts my Ascendant
- his Moon sextiles my Chiron
- my Moon opposes his Sun/Moon midpoint
- his Moon opposes my Sun/Moon midpoint
- our Venuses are trined by sign
- his Venus trines my Mars
- my Venus conjuncts his Pluto
- his Venus squares my Pluto
- his Venus trines my Chiron
- my Venus trines his Ascendant
- my North Node conjuncts his Ascendant

posted June 28, 2006 07:48 AM              

Thanks for your sharing for your great observation on Mar/Saturn. I have Mar square Saturn in synastry. However, I feel far better after reading your post here.

I agree with you that Venus/Pluto alone cannot guarantee that they are my soulmates. I have Venus/Pluto with some other guys as well but I do not think that they are my soulmates. For me, the aspect only create attraction.

I have “love of life”. Probably it is “love of the rest of my life”. I have the following important aspects. I think some of them may be more important than others. I would appreciate if anyone can give me some comments.

My Sun/Moon midpoint conjunct his Moon
My Sun/Moon midpoint oppose his Sun
His Sun/Moon square my Asc
His Sun oppose my Asc
His Moon conjunct my Asc
My Venus quindecile his Pluto
My NN opposite his Venus
My Venus trine his NN
My Venus conjunct his Asc
His Venus oppose my Sun
His Anti-vertex conjunct my Venus
His Vertex conjunct my Pluto
His Mercury conjunct my Vertex
His Moon/Mar midpoint conjunct my Sun
His Psyche/Eros midpoint quindecile my Sun and my Moon.
His Venus/Moon midpoint quindecile my moon
His Sun quindecile my Sun
His Sun quindecile my Moon
My Mar square his Saturn (Now I feel better with this aspect.)
His NN square my Asc
My Venus trine his Saturn and His Venus also trine my Saturn

Do you think that our feeling would be mutual? My feeling is really deep and wide. I mean I love him much horizontally and vertically. The reason I learn astrology is to find out whether the feeling is reciprocated or not.

posted July 01, 2006 04:14 PM              

Those Aspects you mentioned seem more like platonic-type relationships.

Hey Jazzebel -

I've been thinking of asking you to read a brief email from me, and respond at your convenience. Let me know and I'll get it together.

Selena -

I wanted to be sure I understood what you consider to be the most (and perhaps most surprisingly) observed patterns in relationships that are generally long and happy. At first it seemed like you started to say Inner Planetary Aspects, and I was keeping that in the back of my mind, and at the end you not only expressed your own shock, but shocked me by your confidence in the Mars/Saturn Aspect, in Synastry, of course ...

I'm a Libra - I'ze gots to know!

BlueEyes24 -

Thank you for that very (modest) rendition of what seems like true love! If you would have stopped at the Aspects, I would have been bummed. But you added those challenges you have as well, and I hope the work remains optimistic. Lately I've been wondering if true love is so strange because it's both real and an illusion. For example, certain Aspects which are not really known to be "romantic", yet if someone has a strong committment to work theme in their Chart, the reasonable reins on romance is actually preferred in the long run. What do you think?

posted July 01, 2006 05:03 PM              

It's been a few days ... Still running scared?

Mama Mia -

Would you say that having a Natal Sun/Moon Square teaches one that it is better to reserve some sort of emotional detachment in romance? I ask because there is a strong theme in my Natal regarding an obscure independence yet to achieve. That "Sun Conjunct Moon" part is something I'm admittedly jealous of because I ain't had it within me grasp mon.

In the end, we all want that, but some Natal Charts won't allow it to bloom fully until much much later in life. Sometimes I think the exhausted Pisces pixie who latches on to just the right guy is NOT so much exhausted as she is bored with the outside world. But for me, it oozes claustrophobia. Does that make sense? I'm sincerely interested.

Selena -

I understand what you say about Pluto and the analogy of a Class of students. I've questioned the very same thing SO many times over the years. It drove me crazy until I FINALLY internalized the fact that there is NOT someone for everyone at the exact same time. And who wants to get romantic with those people we knew before they had hair on their bodies? It's in human nature to explore, although most of us fear change.

I think the reader can sometimes read what they want it to say, especially if you are a strong critic or cynic. Keep that in mind. When I imagine Linda Goodman talking about something having to do with Pluto, I'm not thinking about how many people out there will have Aspects to each other, who should be together, but are not. I mean, I can be totally wrong here, but a "soul mate Aspect" does NOT preclude friendships and family, and even those we pass by on the street ONCE in our entire lives.

I try to remind myself that the Class can be a metaphor for a petri dish containing life itself. About 12% of the guys were always gay, 35% of the girls had never tweezed their eyebrows, and 2% have/had a very good marriage with their school sweetheart.

From what I've learned here, a Natal Venus/Pluto Conjunction can actually produce longlived celebacy, during which we are experiencing closer to what is more like making love to oneself required for true celibacy practiced ...

(... exaaaaactly ...)

It's not so much a sexual connection as it is idealized spiritual love, hence, the "soul mate Aspect".