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Topic: best synastry for passion and sex
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Atlenta
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posted September 18, 2006 04:40 PM
 
Thank you for your replies both 
I guess I just wondered because I didn't really like the idea of randomness, especially if love is thrown in the mix ..Libraschoice, yes I think I understand.. personality of the chart leads to attraction patterns too.  IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted September 18, 2006 04:43 PM
Alot of trines and sextiles are seen in alot of friendships, and gentle relationships. If a person has a real hard chart they probably want to be challenged with excitement in which they would be attracted to another 'hard' aspect chart. It isn't likely(real rare) for a person with alot squares and oppositions to go mad over heels for a person with nothing but soft planets and trines. Anybody feel differently, or know of a relationship where one party has harsh aspects and the other real soft calm aspects?IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted September 18, 2006 04:52 PM
LoveGoblin, it would be awesome to find that one reason or aspect that says it all. Mabe one day someone will be able to pin down the absolute "infatuation" aspect and the definite "friendship" aspect. The real reason of attraction(or lack of).IP: Logged |
BlueEyes24
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posted September 18, 2006 04:58 PM
Hey libraschoice, I agree with that you're talking about there. It really depends on the overall natal chart for each individual. My boyfriend has TONS of trines and sextiles in his chart- most of his planets are in the element of water. He has NO oppositions and only a couple squares. He really doesn't like conflict in relationships. I don't either- a lot of people need conflict to keep the relationship exciting, but for me, it just drains me out. That could be because I have moon conjunct venus, though.I have been with a guy who had a venus/uranus square in his natal chart, and in the end, I just wanted to get out. He couldn't give me the stablity I need in a relationship....too many ups and downs. I have more oppositions in my chart than anything, so oppositions in synastry really don't bother me- I'm a Virgo and I love Pisces, I've never really had a problem with anyone with strong Pisces or Neptune influences. IP: Logged |
Nightjar
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posted September 18, 2006 05:11 PM
With synastry, I think you should always start by looking at how two people's personal planets fall into each other's charts. If your venus or mars falls into the other person's 5th or 8th house, passionate attraction felt by you is likely (of course depends also on other placements). If I'm talking from my experience, I'd venture to say that no matter how "passionate" the planetary aspects between the charts are, if your planets (not all, of course!) don't fall into the other person's 1st, 5th, 7th or 8th house, you probably won't fall for them, or at least they won't be irresistable in your eyes. This is particularly true when we're talking about people who aren't teenagers (with their crazy hormones) anymore.
I have several friends (opposite sex) with whom I've got an amazing, "passionate" synastry aspect-wise, but I only see and feel them as dear friends because none/not more than one of my sensitive planets (sun, moon, venus, mars, in some cases even jupiter) don't fall into their aforementioned houses.
So I think it's a bit silly -feel free to disagree!- to look at single planetary aspects and then draw conclusions. I think the house placements play an incomparable role in how the two individuals cast each other and should always be studied first (+the birth charts) when trying to figure out how two people see each other.
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lovegoblin
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posted September 18, 2006 05:31 PM
ok-this has been discussed somewhere before-but Nightjar-are you saying it is the planet person who feels the pull or the house person? this has been debated before.
i think the consensus was that the house person's house is "activated" if your planet falls there. do you see it the other way?IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted September 18, 2006 05:48 PM
Nightjar, it would also make sense that the planets that fall in certain houses also have potent effects on people. Someone could have their Mars and Venus within their partners 8th house,(8th house rules sexualness) bringing to life the a relationship of a very sensual nature for the one person, but what if the other persons Mars and Venus fell in the work or money house, than the money situation is brought up(many things have to be considered with both peoples charts though, or your talking real onesidedness)This happened to me in an awkward relationship where my Mars fell in this guys 8th house, but he was the only one felling the sexualness of it, I didn't really feel that way about him(it might have also been the lack of 'heat' aspects) .But when it come to emotions though the Moon I think is the most important, even more than the Sun.IP: Logged |
Nightjar
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posted September 18, 2006 05:54 PM
I'd say it's DEFINITELY the planet person who feels the effect.
Just to give you one example: a person who was hopelessly attracted to me for years and said I was his ideal mate, had his sun, venus and jupiter in my 7th house. Unfortunately my planets didn't fall as favourably into his houses, and I only saw him as a friend or a work mate. The planetary aspects between our charts were nice, but he just failed to capture my sensitive planets into the right houses.
I also have examples of contrary situations, where I have been drooling all over the place, but the other person just hasn't seen me as a potential mate. Checked the charts: they're planets didn't hit my 5th, 7th or 8th.
Trust me, I have quite a few examples of these, and I'm 100% convinced it's the planet person who "feels the vibes"  IP: Logged |
Nightjar
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posted September 18, 2006 06:09 PM
Yes libra, I think that one planet falling into a "pleasant house" isn't enough, if the rest of the planets suggest that the planet person doesn't see the house person as a romantic partner. I'm guessing that the other placements can then dilute the effect to a great extent. Also, always study the birth chart to see what the person is likely to be looking for in a relationship/how sexually oriented she/he is etc.You mentioned the moon - moon in the partner's 5th house is a lovely placement by the way! IP: Logged |
BlueEyes24
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posted September 18, 2006 06:48 PM
Nightjar, I think your theory is interesting, but I also think that the 4th house should be taken into consideration in synastry. I think that's a very important house, IMO.IP: Logged |
lovegoblin
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posted September 18, 2006 06:55 PM
well i've heard its the other way around also. usually whenever someone has a major planet in my 8th house i find something sexy about them. my planets don't need to necessarily fall in a "cool" house in their chart-but when someone has planets in my 8th-i usually respond to them. this seems to be alot more prevalent than when any other house is activated-but i have alot of pluto in my chart so this might be the reason why i like someone's planets falling in the 8th house.IP: Logged |
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posted September 18, 2006 07:04 PM
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lovegoblin
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posted September 18, 2006 07:09 PM
hi and!
yes i know i've been trying to find them!
tim had a very good theory about it but i can't find the thread.IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted September 18, 2006 07:11 PM
Cafeastrology has sexual attraction section, and one attraction factor they say to look for is if someones Mars falls in your 5th house, it claims both people desire each other "you WANT each other"! So why do the claim it goes both ways with 5th house(the fun party house). And the one with the Mars is suppose to be real demanding in the sack. Makes you wonder if certain house are contagious than others?IP: Logged |
lovegoblin
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posted September 18, 2006 07:14 PM
that would definately make alot of sense LC.
maybe if that is a prominent house in your own chart and then someone deposits their planets there it would imply a more obvious affinity? this is just a guess.IP: Logged |
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posted September 18, 2006 07:20 PM
LC7 - I've seen the cafeastrology stuff and say its a pretty good site, I've learnt a lot from it. But yeah, I don't understand how a 5th mars placement leads to attraction *both* ways. I always understood it to be that the person who recieves the other's mars in the 5th wants the other person. I have this placement with my special person and had it with others as well and I want them in a romantic/crush way (of course, they are mutual relationships but through other synastric means).IP: Logged |
OzMeg222
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posted September 18, 2006 08:17 PM
Dark dreamer:-Thanks for that info! I'm a very very new novice at this kinda stuff so kinda have no idea what I'm looking for. Its so easy to get the charts from astro.com but very hard to find the explanations on the aspects and value of orbs, etc. I posted a topic a while ago wondering about the whole mid point thing cos I felt like I was missing something significant in our synastry. What you wrote about our midpoints seems very interesting. I'm wondering if there are any other significant midpoints between us? IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted September 19, 2006 03:25 AM
lovegoblin - quote:
i have alot of pluto in my chart so this might be the reason why i like someone's planets falling in the 8th house.
Great observation, not such an obvious thing, yet, it seems like very subtle variants like this DO matter.
Maybe eHarmony has something on this already. Anyone know anyone who met their life partner on eHarmony, who knows their birth info? ------------------
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Nightjar
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posted September 19, 2006 07:41 AM
I think the Cafeastrology sun in partner's houses interpretaions are pretty good, except that they should be the other way around - planet person feeling the effect. When I compare them to my experiences, they are good/spot on as long as you swap the roles. For a long time I thought the whole synastry thing was useless and inaccurate bs when it came to estimating the attraction factor, until I bumped into "reversal" interpretations and noticed how spot on they were. Of course it can be sometimes tricky to get hold of the other person's exact birth information so that you can compare the planetary synastry placements and your reaction's to each other (or how you pidgeonhole each other), but when you've managed to do this with many, many people - it's particularly eye-opening when you study the cases where powerful attraction has been somewhat one-sided - you can start to draw pretty good conclusions, and that's what I've done. The thing I've been thinking about though, is that if there are loads (and I mean LOADS) of nice venus aspects inbetween the charts + harmonious synastry aspects in general, could it create romantic attraction even though the planets would fall into "wrong" houses? I'm inclined to say you would at least be quite fond of each other, but what do you think? And someone mentioned 7th house/open enemies: again, I can only talk from my personal experience, but the way I see it is that if someone's, let's say, sun and venus falls into your 7th house (and maybe there are some other nice placements too), they are likely to find you very attractive/magnetic. But if you don't feel the same and don't want an intimate relationship with the planet person, he/she can feel quite bitter about it. I think there's a fine line between ultimate attraction and repulsion, because when you feel SO strongly about someone and they just give you heartbreak by choosing to love someone else, the love you once felt for them can quickly turn into hatred even. Has this never happened to any of you? You can't stand the sight of someone you were passionately attracted to, but who rejected you (no matter how gently)?
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Kay Libra
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posted September 19, 2006 09:05 AM
The house person and the planet person has always been an interesting topic to me. I think it goes both ways with each person feeling the same thing, but I think the planet person perhaps feels it more...umm I don't know. Well for instance I had 2 relationships where both of the guys meant something to me. In one relationship, my Sun fell into the first house -- hot attraction - plus we had alot of 4th house and 12th house synastry going on. In another relationship, my Sun fell into the 5th house -- we had a child together. We only had a few 4th house synastry action going on, but moon-pl, moon/mars, sun/moon. I'd say in both instances there was mutual attraction, but more so on the house person for me. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted September 19, 2006 11:13 AM
OzMeg 222,yes, I remember your question from the other topic about midpoint synastry, and like you, I`ve felt for quite some time I was missing something in synastry. However, I checked your midpoints and have found those: Your Sun / Venus = his Venus = his Mars
Your Sun / Mars = his Mercury, AC-ruler
Your Sun / Jupiter = his Sun
Your Sun / AC = his Sun
Your Moon / Neptune = his Venus
Your Moon / Node = his Sun
Your Moon / Midheaven = his AC
Your Venus / jupiter = his AC
your Venus / Neptune = his Sun
Your Venus / AC = his AC
Your Mars / Uranus = his AC
Your / Mars / Neptune = his Moon his Sun / Moon = your Sun
His Sun / NOde = your Sun
His Moon / Midheaven = your Mars
His Venus / Mars = your Mars Well, since I`m also new to that midpoint-stuff, I can`t give you a perfect interpretation, I think.
But what is remarkable, that you have many mipoints including Sun, Moon, AC, MC, and also Venus and Mars.
Also, you have the (singularly) most important midpoints for relationsships: Sun-Moon and Venus-Mars.
That sounds good for a relationship I think. The Venus-Mars-midpoint for example could point at an overwhelming passion, felt by both of you. It`s like you activate very much passion in him (his Venus-Mars), but you`re also attracte (I guess), because you`r Mars is involved. It could be quite stormy I guess.
Also, his Sun-Moon-midpoint to your Sun is like having a strong Sun-Moon-contact between your charts. It probably gives you a feelings, as if you complete each other. Maybe it`s felt more by him (since it`s his Sun-Moon, that is activated), but I`m not sure about this.
Your Sun-Venus-midpoint activated by his Venus and Mars speaks of a lot of affection and warmth you feel towards him, again mixed with some passionate sparks (it`s connected to Venus and Mars; how couldn`t there be any sparks?).
your midpoint of Mars - Uranus = his AC could speak of a very sudden, unexpected attraction or rather passion. I`t could be highly unususal and sometimes disruptive. It`s strong but not necessarily harmonious. There could be disruptions or sudden, unexpected separations and coming back together. Well, as I said I am still a novice myself to this concept, so if I didn`t get it right, I am sorry.  DD IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion
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posted September 19, 2006 12:19 PM
HOT TOPIC! LOLMy Sun in His 8 house
His Sun in My 10 house
His Moon in His 3 house
His Moon in My 11 house
My Mercury in His 9 house
His Mercury in My 10 house
My Venus in His 10 house
His Venus in My 6 house
My Mars in His 5 house
His Mars in My 11 house
My Jupiter in His 8 house
His Jupiter in My 11 house
My Saturn in His 4 house
His Saturn in My 6 house
My Uranus in His 4 house
His Uranus in My 6 house
My Neptune in His 4 house
His Neptune in My 6 house
Esther's Pluto in His 2 house
His Pluto in My 6 house From what you guys can see, is his attraction to me more obvious? We share:
His Sun Conjunct My Mars in Aqua
My Moon trine His Jupiter
Mercury square Mercury
My Saturn trine His Moon
My Uranus trine His Moon
My Uranus sextil His Mercury
Pluto square Sun
My Moon sextile His Ascendant
Mars sextile Mars
My Uranus conjunct His Venus
My Venus opposition His Uranus -Yeah it hasn't been very stable...so far i've been shaking things up and bit and neither of us wants to get into a relationship...
My Venus square His Jupiter
My Mercury sextile His Jupiter I have my Mars in Aqua/10th...and pretty darn attracted to this dude. My Venus is in Gemini, conjunct his MC, and I love the way he communicates. Sry, but i'm so curious...how do you think he views me? Birth info:
5/2/88 8:22am Anchorage, AK 2/3/87 8:00pm LA, CA It's interesting how he's not my type physically, but I'm so attracted to him. The physical attraction is definitely there...and I wish I could show affection but I don't want to do anything stupid. I guess a hug would be okay, right?
I genuinely like him. Not just as a guy, but as a person. Me:Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer
Dude: Aqua/Aries at 27degrees/Virgo
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posted September 19, 2006 02:23 PM
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Maybe it`s felt more by him (since it`s his Sun-Moon, that is activated), but I`m not sure about this.
I also think that he felt more too. Is it true?Regarding planet in house concept, his Sun exactly sits on my 7th house cusp. I felt more for him, I think. I do not know his real feeling anyway. I do not know why even my Venus conjunct HIS Vertex, I still feel more for him. I feel that he is love of my life. Probably the reason is that his Sun exactly conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint. Actually his Sun/Moon also exactly square my Asc. What do you think? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted September 19, 2006 03:34 PM
I think that his Sun AND AC activate your Sun-Moon-midpoints shows an enormous attraction. I guess it is felt on both sides, but more so on your side.
Also, his Sun on the cusp of your 7th house could be an indicator of a strong attraction.
I know that there are very different opinions on that subject, but personally I think, the house-person feels the impact more.
The 7th house is the Venus-house and so a planet in that house activates your Venus-side, your feelings of love and attraction; it shows what you`re attracted to (That is only my opinion, there are others, too).
But of course it can also be, that you react in an Venusian-way, because you`re attracted, and that the planet-person then becomes attracted to the warmth and affection you`re showing him.
It`s as if he likes you, because you like him. I hope you understand what I mean.
But as I said, there are many theories on that subject out there, and only experience can show you, which one suits you best.
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posted September 19, 2006 03:49 PM
There`s a German astrology school, called "TPA", and they say, that Venus / 7th house / DC show what you`re attracted to and Mars / 1st house / AC shows what you bring into a relationship, what you act out.
In their theory the Sun / 5th house shows how you act generally and the Mars / 1st house shows, how you get active in relation to others.
They also say the moon / 4th house tell something about the basic emotional nature of a person, while Venus / 7th house show your feelings and needs regarding relationships.
Among other things Venus shows what someone is attracted to, needs and desires, and if someone else has a fitting Mars, there would be sparks flying; they only look at the individual horoscopes (synastry would be the second step).
So for example, if a person has DC in Scorpio / ruler of 7 in 8 / Venus in Scorpio, in house 8 or in aspect to Pluto, he would be attracted to Plutonian people, who could give him or her the intensity, depth and passion, he or she desires.
And if someone came along with Pluto in 1st house, Scorpio - AC or Mars in aspect to Pluto, then he would fit nearly perfectly into that image.
One person has Venus-Pluto, the other has Mars-Pluto, and that would fit together like key and lock, and according to their theory they would attract each other, regardless of synastry-aspects.
Well, if those two people with Venus-Pluto and Mars-Pluto would have a strong Pluto aspect to Venus or Mars, then there would be high focus on Pluto in that relationship, and passion and intensity is nearly guaranteed.
An example is that thing between that guy and me.
We don`t really have strong synastry aspects, almost only soft and harmonious one. But actually I feel this insane attraction towards him, blind passion against better reason, the whole stuff. I`m sure you all know.
However, we have that Pluto connection through our natal charts.
I have Venus square Pluto, he has a Scorpio-ascendant. We have only a very wide Venus-Pluto-square (Orb:4°57), which I usually wouldn`t even look at (the orb is just too wide).
But still I can feel the Pluto-madness very clearly, and I guess it is because of the comparision of our natal placements. DD IP: Logged | |
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