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Topic: Draconic charts
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eyes_like_pisces
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From: mpls, mn, usa
Registered: Feb 2013
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posted February 09, 2014 07:27 PM
  
After checking iQ's soul mate calculator and scoring a minimum of 51pts I decided to take up the suggestion of looking up draconic for fun. I haven't delved too far it, but what it looks like at a quick glace is better house overlays but also some hard squares and quincunx that weren't present natally. Though I am wondering about the 00 Aries nodes. Is there any significance if the draconic nodes square my natal vertex and square my partners Asc/Dsc/vertex and conjunct his IC/MC .. or should you leave out draconic nodes in interpretation? IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
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posted February 28, 2014 01:32 PM
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KarmicMoon
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From: Moon, Milky Way
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 18, 2014 08:48 AM
I'm wondering the same thing eyes like pisces. Since everyones Nodes are at the same degree, do we consider them in comparisons? Is the vertex relevent? Do we read the aspects the same? For example, A's draconic Venus conjunct B's natal South Node? Just starting out trying to read this type of chart. Any help would be appreciated! IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 08, 2017 03:54 PM
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Randall
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From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
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posted October 09, 2017 09:48 AM
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Hikaru29
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From: Asia
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 07, 2019 10:26 AM
I've always wondered why my guy and I are attracted to each other as we don't have any similar planets (barring the generational ones) because I noticed most couples have at least 1 or 2 same planets in their natals. So today I happened to check our Draconic charts and was surprised to find most of our natal planets in the other's Draconic charts! It's almost like we did a swop. In natal, he has Sun/Mercury in Virgo.
In Draconic, my Sun/Mercury/Juno in Virgo. In natal, his Moon/Pluto/NN in Libra.
In Draconic, my Venus/Asc in Libra. In natal, he has Mars/Jupiter/Asc in Cancer.
In Draconic, my Mars/Lilith in Cancer. In natal, I have Sun/Mercury/Juno in Taurus.
In Draconic, his Juno/Neptune/Priapus in Taurus. In natal, I have Moon/Neptune/NN in Sag.
In Draconic, his Mars/Jupiter in Sag. In natal, I have Mars/Lilith in Pisces.
In Draconic, his Sun/Pluto in Pisces.
Is this some strange coincidence, or what?
Comparing Draconic to Natal, I realised we have the following conjunctions... d.Juno conjunct n.Sun DW His d.ASC/Neptune conjunct my n.Juno
His d.Sun/Vesta conjunct my n.Mars/Lilith/Vesta/Midheaven
His d.Mars/Jupiter conjunct my n.Moon/Valentine
His d.Eros/Karma conjunct my n.Venus My d.Sun conjunct his n.Mercury
My d.Moon conjunct his n.South Node
My d.Mercury conjunct his n.Sun
My d.Venus/Asc conjunct his n.Moon/Pluto/NN/Pallas
My d.Lilith/Vesta conjunct his n.Mars/Jupiter
My d.Ceres/Chiron/Psyche conjunct his n.Venus/Saturn/Karma
My d.Eros conjunct his n.Karma
I don't know whether the aspects from Draconic to Natal bear any significance and I haven't checked our Draconic synastry yet, but I just find the swopping of our personal planets from Natal to Draconic incredible.
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Hu_w_ryl_A
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Registered: Sep 2018
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posted January 12, 2019 04:37 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I don't know whether the aspects from Draconic to Natal bear any significance and I haven't checked our Draconic synastry yet, but I just find the swopping of our personal planets from Natal to Draconic incredible.Did this happen to you too?
They bear significance, mind you  You can look at the synastries between Natal - Natal, Natal - Draconic, Draconic - Draconic
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Hikaru29
Knowflake Posts: 2252
From: Asia
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 12, 2019 01:16 PM
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Hikaru29
Knowflake Posts: 2252
From: Asia
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 13, 2019 01:17 AM
So I have this BIG question:How do I reconcile the charts - natal-natal, natal-draconic, draconic-draconic? For e.g. if our Draconic synastry shows deep attraction and compatibility but our natal synastry doesn't, which should I believe? 🤔 IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
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posted January 14, 2019 03:27 PM
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Dons2angelss
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From: Virginia, US
Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 19, 2019 10:09 AM
I read an article that said you can take the degree of your draconic Pluto and look it up in an epiphermis to see when Pluto was last in that degree, take that date and use your place of birth and time and it will show your natal chart of your last life. I've done this with a few people including myself and it did indeed fit what I remember from my past life and what others remember. Pretty interesting stuff! I've also looked into links between my family members and myself to try to find soul connections and contracts. I don't have many with my siblings or parents but I have strong ones with my children. Weird though that I'm aspecting their vertex and ascendant but no one I've looked at yet has aspected mine. Not even in synastry with other relationships I've been in. Draconic or natal. I haven't looked at the declanations in the draconic charts yet though, those can sometimes show strong connections that you might miss. IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss
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From: Virginia, US
Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 19, 2019 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
So I have this BIG question:How do I reconcile the charts - natal-natal, natal-draconic, draconic-draconic? For e.g. if our Draconic synastry shows deep attraction and compatibility but our natal synastry doesn't, which should I believe? 🤔
Have you ever loved someone but not liked them? That's how I would look at that. The draconic is deeper than the natal. It shows what your soul is going for, the natal is everything above that that we're working with to get to the soul's purpose. If you have a strong draconic connection but weak natal, there's more than likely a soul contract that's going to ask more from your personalities and habits and force you to work with the higher levels of your natal charts to fulfill that soul need. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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From: Asia
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 21, 2019 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Have you ever loved someone but not liked them? That's how I would look at that. The draconic is deeper than the natal. It shows what your soul is going for, the natal is everything above that that we're working with to get to the soul's purpose. If you have a strong draconic connection but weak natal, there's more than likely a soul contract that's going to ask more from your personalities and habits and force you to work with the higher levels of your natal charts to fulfill that soul need.
Ok, I'm trying to wrap my head around this. So you're saying that those you share a great Draconic synastry with but not in natal are people you love but don't necessarily like? Or the other way round? What intrigues me is our Draconic synastry shows a much deeper attraction than our Natal, i.e. all angles conjunct, Vertex-Venus DW, NN on angles, etc... plus our Draconic planets mirror one another's natal... so I'm wondering if this is why we feel such a "fated attraction"? And what happens when there's a soul contract? I saw someone says that you need to have a good natal synastry to begin with... so if you do but your Draconic-Natal or Draconic synastries are 'meh'... then what? You actually don't attract each other on a soul level? In another thread on twin flames, I also asked if Draconic-Natal may show twin flame aspects if your Draconic planets mirror the other person's natal planets. IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss
Knowflake Posts: 622
From: Virginia, US
Registered: Jan 2019
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posted January 21, 2019 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Ok, I'm trying to wrap my head around this. So you're saying that those you share a great Draconic synastry with but not in natal are people you love but don't necessarily like? Or the other way round?What intrigues me is our Draconic synastry shows a much deeper attraction than our Natal, i.e. all angles conjunct, Vertex-Venus DW, NN on angles, etc... plus our Draconic planets mirror one another's natal... so I'm wondering if this is why we feel such a "fated attraction"? And what happens when there's a soul contract? I saw someone says that you need to have a good natal synastry to begin with... so if you do but your Draconic-Natal or Draconic synastries are 'meh'... then what? You actually don't attract each other on a soul level? In another thread on twin flames, I also asked if Draconic-Natal may show twin flame aspects if your Draconic planets mirror the other person's natal planets.
The draconic chart can show deeper soul connections. It's the chart of the soul or the soul's memories, the natal is what we chose to work with in this life to reach the soul's goals. A lot of strong connections between draconic charts can show soul connections or contracts. You would get that fated feeling that this person would be important in your life. A strong draconic synastry will tell you that your soul's have a mission together, even if you lack strong natal connections. A weak natal synastry doesn't mean you two are doomed, it's just showing how each individual is going to go about completing that soul contract and how hard you're going to have to work at it, like loving someone but not necessarily liking how they do things. Your draconic charts mirroring each other's natal is a good sign, it means your soul (draconic) charts have the knowledge to help the other person realize what their soul wanted to accomplish in this life through the natal chart.
Look at it this way, your soul has lessons it wants to learn and specific ways it wants to learn them, it will choose a natal chart to represent the obstacles it has to overcome and what gifts we've already earned and you can see those in the aspects of your natal chart. A look at the draconic chart is showing you what your soul intends to learn and aspects to your own natal chart will show how difficult or easy it will be to achieve those soul lessons. Anyone with good aspects from their natal to your draconic or strong draconic connections shows that you two have a soul connection. This person has the tools (natal chart) to help your soul (draconic chart) reach its goal. I haven't done much research on signs of twin flames but I'd imagine they'd show heavily in draconic charts.
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Hikaru29
Knowflake Posts: 2252
From: Asia
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted January 25, 2019 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
The draconic chart can show deeper soul connections. It's the chart of the soul or the soul's memories, the natal is what we chose to work with in this life to reach the soul's goals. A lot of strong connections between draconic charts can show soul connections or contracts. You would get that fated feeling that this person would be important in your life. A strong draconic synastry will tell you that your soul's have a mission together, even if you lack strong natal connections. A weak natal synastry doesn't mean you two are doomed, it's just showing how each individual is going to go about completing that soul contract and how hard you're going to have to work at it, like loving someone but not necessarily liking how they do things. Your draconic charts mirroring each other's natal is a good sign, it means your soul (draconic) charts have the knowledge to help the other person realize what their soul wanted to accomplish in this life through the natal chart.
Look at it this way, your soul has lessons it wants to learn and specific ways it wants to learn them, it will choose a natal chart to represent the obstacles it has to overcome and what gifts we've already earned and you can see those in the aspects of your natal chart. A look at the draconic chart is showing you what your soul intends to learn and aspects to your own natal chart will show how difficult or easy it will be to achieve those soul lessons. Anyone with good aspects from their natal to your draconic or strong draconic connections shows that you two have a soul connection. This person has the tools (natal chart) to help your soul (draconic chart) reach its goal.I haven't done much research on signs of twin flames but I'd imagine they'd show heavily in draconic charts.
Thanks so much for the very clear explanation! Digging this a little deeper... is the attraction both ways or only the Draco person feels the connection? And if my Draco planets mirror his Natal but his Draco does not mirror my Natal (or very little), does it mean an unrequited love?
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