posted November 17, 2006 12:53 PM              

And of course, before you get into synastry, you have to take the natal constellations into account.

I also wonder about one thing:
Let`s say a woman`s venus falls into the 11th house of her guy. Usually I`d say, that is a nice placement for having fun with each other, a great friendship-tie, but probably no sign of attraction.
but what if the guy has a strong Uranus-theme in his horoscope like for example Ascendant in aquarius, Mercury and Mars in 11th house, Venus closely trine Uranus? Does this change the way he experiences her Venus in 11th house, opposed to someone, who maybe has no strong Uranus-influence? Could it be, that he is more strongly attracted to her, because she stimulates something, he`s got already inside him - in this case, the Uranus-theme?

Cranky Cap,
I think your 5th house ruler conjunct his moon is a very strong aspect, especially since it`s so tight. It`s almost a bit like having a Sun-Moon-conjunction. so, yes, I think that is meaningful. And it`s something very personal, very individual, because the MOon is a fast moving planet and your 5th house, of course, too. If you have two planets conjunct, like Sun conjunct Moon, then this conjunction is something you share with all people born on the same day. (It`ss till very individual, I think, but if we look at a conjunction of Venus and Neptune, it becomes more general, because a lot of people may have that aspect with you). But if you look at aspects that your houserulers make to his planets or houserulers, this is something very personal. Because how many people do you know, who have been born at the same day and at the same time of day like your boyfriend?
so, it`s something that tells you a lot about this unique relationship you have with each other. And having a conjunction of 5th house ruler and Moon is a very emotional, creative, wonderful thing to have in my opinion. I don`t know if you`ve already told me, but in which houses does that conjunction fall in both of your horoscopes?

DD

posted November 17, 2006 01:36 PM            

LOL...this is where astrology kind of loses me. I haven't been able to figure out where conjunctions fall in another person's house, where planets fall, etc. Would you mind checking out the charts for me? Glaucus looked at them a while back and warned me that we have a T-square (yikes!), but we haven't even had an argument yet. Right now I'm more interested in finding out where this out of body intensity and passion may be coming from. The relationship really has a too-good-to-be-true kind of feeling, which is actually what is freaking me out. At first I was concerned that it was too sexually based, but now we've spent countless hours talking and can often finish eachother's thoughts. Any insight, like I said, is so appreciated.

His info:

born on 23 Feb 1973 local time 6:34 pm
in Bowling Green, KY (US) U.T. 00+34
86w27, 36n59 sid. time 05:03:12

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Pisces 5°16'05 in house 6 direct
Moon Scorpio 23°13'23 in house 3 direct
Mercury Pisces 23°11'00 in house 7 direct
Venus Aquarius 24°03'30 in house 6 direct
Mars Capricorn 8°14'04 in house 4 direct
Jupiter Aquarius 0°08'02 in house 5 direct
Saturn Gemini 13°44'10 in house 9 direct
Uranus Libra 22°42'54 in house 2 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 7°23'09 in house 3 direct
Pluto Libra 3°48'17 in house 1 retrograde
True Node Capricorn 15°27'20 in house 4 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Virgo 18°20'40
2nd House Libra 14°07'07
3rd House Scorpio 14°05'10
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 16°55'55
5th House Capricorn 20°02'52
6th House Aquarius 20°54'45
Descendant Pisces 18°20'40
8th House Aries 14°07'07
9th House Taurus 14°05'10
Medium Coeli Gemini 16°55'55
11th House Cancer 20°02'52
12th House Leo 20°54'45

Major aspectsSun Sextile Mars 2°58
Sun Square Neptune 2°07
Sun Quincunx Pluto 1°28
Moon Trine Mercury 0°02
Moon Square Venus 0°50
Moon Sextile Jupiter 6°55
Moon Sextile Ascendant 4°53
Mercury Quincunx Uranus 0°28
Mercury Opposition Ascendant 4°50
Venus Trine Uranus 1°21
Mars Square Pluto 4°26
Jupiter Trine Pluto 3°40
Saturn Square Ascendant 4°36
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°35
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

My info:

born on 2 Jan 1979 local time 6:43 pm
in Pontiac, MI (US) U.T. 23:43
83w17, 42n38 sid. time 00:57:55

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Capricorn 11°59'33 in house 6 direct
Moon Pisces 10°01'47 in house 8 direct
Mercury Sagittarius 21°44'05 in house 5 direct
Venus Scorpio 26°07'34 in house 5 direct
Mars Capricorn 16°14'14 in house 6 direct
Jupiter Leo 6°46'38 in house 1 retrograde
Saturn Virgo 13°51'43 end of house 2 retrograde
Uranus Scorpio 19°47'11 in house 4 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 18°54'10 in house 5 direct
Pluto Libra 19°07'07 in house 4 direct
True Node Virgo 19°57'02 in house 3 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Leo 1°35'48
2nd House Leo 21°13'34
3rd House Virgo 15°06'27
Imum Coeli Libra 15°43'07
5th House Scorpio 22°51'13
6th House Capricorn 0°08'52
Descendant Aquarius 1°35'48
8th House Aquarius 21°13'34
9th House Pisces 15°06'27
Medium Coeli Aries 15°43'07
11th House Taurus 22°51'13
12th House Cancer 0°08'52

Major aspectsSun Sextile Moon 1°58
Sun Conjunction Mars 4°15
Sun Trine Saturn 1°52
Sun Sextile Uranus 7°48
Sun Square Pluto 7°08
Moon Sextile Mars 6°12
Moon Opposition Saturn 3°50
Mercury Conjunction Neptune 2°50
Mercury Sextile Pluto 2°37
Venus Trine Ascendant 5°28
Mars Trine Saturn 2°23
Mars Sextile Uranus 3°33
Mars Square Pluto 2°53
Jupiter Conjunction Ascendant 5°11
Saturn Sextile Uranus 5°55
Saturn Square Neptune 5°02
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°13
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

posted November 17, 2006 02:18 PM            

His Mars occult(conjunct and parallel your Sun) is passion. His Mars sextile your Moon e your Moon and your Mars parallel his Moon too can indicate passion. Yours Mars parallel each other can indicate passion

That's pretty much the passion.

His Neptune squares your Moon.....that's the feeling of that it's too good to be true. Thats the main issue with challenging Neptune aspects in synastry...they can be so idealistic and dreamy,that they can lead to a lot of illusion and deception which can all lead to disillusionment. There is a challenge of needing to keep your feet on the ground and not be so much with head in the clouds. Neptune is the mystical planet,and so the aspect does indicate the otherworldly nature of your relationship with him. This aspect can indicate the feeling that everything is wonderful when it may not be the case.

His Neptune parallel your descendant with 9 minutes of arc, can also indicate hard to pin down,idealistic,mystical relationship which can be illusive and deceptive. So you have to make sure that you see each other clearly. Same issues as the square, but not as challenging as the square.

posted November 17, 2006 02:32 PM            

On a hunch, I checked to see if you have hard Pluto aspect involving Venus in composite chart.

It turns out that it is so

You have Moon-Venus-Mars conjunction in 5th in the composite chart,and Pluto squares it.
That indicates tremendous intensity,transformation which can involving a lot of friction with the emotional/nurturing nature,affection/love nature,and the energetic/assertive nature.
This aspect indicate possible obsessions,compulsions which can get out of hand. Mars square Pluto can be potentially violent. There is a lot of potential for abuse in relationship. There can be a lot of jealousy,possessiveness with Venus square Pluto. There can be a lot of trust issues as as well as family secrets,feelings of betrayal with Moon square Pluto. Remember that that these can be unconscious things. After all Moon has to do with the unconscious and squares have to do with internal issues. Internal issues aren't apparent. Pluto can easily conceal things just as Neptune can. They are both subtle planets. Moon conj Mars can energetic emotions and feelings of passion which can also be feelings of impatience,anger and aggression. Venus conjunct Mars can be the erotic,sexual connection as well as can be impatience,anger,aggression in love. Conjunctions aren't necessarily great when they involve Mars. Definitely not in this case with Pluto squaring them.

This might not be apparent until you live together...after all Moon is involved...Moon has to do with domestic matters. Pluto is also the ruler of the 4th house which is the house of domestic matters. Living together can make or break you. It depends on what you do.

There is a lot of passion,intensity.

However,it can be obsessive,compulsive,violent,dangerous,abusive,out of control which can lead to a lot of pain emotional and/or physical. You have to be careful.

with 5th house involved, there is focus on trouble in 5th house matters including romance,children,self expression,entertainment,fun. Procreative matters definitely seems like it could be a major issue.

The ultimate lesson could be transformation the hard way and the need to let go of what is no longer of use to you. Pluto is after all the planet of elimination.

Free will is the ultimate factor.
However, this is definitely not a composite that I would want with anybody.

The composite has Sun-Mercury in Aquarius in 6th square Uranus in 3rd which can indicate unpredictable,sudden communications in conflict with self expression,communications in daily routine. This can be a very nonroutine relationship. This is not good for everyday life. There would need to be a lot of space,independence in this relationship.

Sun-Mercury trine Pluto is good for willpower,regeneration though.

The complicated thing with very challenging aspects with soft aspects is that even though things are very challenging,couple can stay together because there is some good stuff to keep them together and smooths things out...with Pluto,it can be hard to let go even though it could be in their best interests...after all,Pluto is the planet of obsession.

posted November 17, 2006 04:17 PM            

free will is the ultimate factor. No matter what the aspects are, you two can make the relationship work as long as you two love each other and put in effort.

librachoice,

I don't think that there is a perfect love/attraction aspect,I feel that it depends on the couple and the individual. I think the attraction is not just 1 aspect but a combination of things. The attraction stuff could be in the synastry and/or composite. It doesn't necessarily have to be conjunctions nor harmonious aspects. It could be the challenging aspects too.

posted November 18, 2006 05:44 AM              

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I don't think that there is a perfect love/attraction aspect,I feel that it depends on the couple and the individual. I think the attraction is not just 1 aspect but a combination of things.

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posted November 18, 2006 07:56 AM              

for example:
I have a strange and complicated emphasis on the 2nd - 8th house axis.
My Moon is in Aquarius in 2nd house; my Saturn is in Cancer in 8th house; the only aspect my Moon has is that quinkunx from Moon to Saturn.
And furthermore, my Moon is ruler of the 8th house, and falls in the 2nd house.
And my Saturn is ruler of my 2nd house and falls into the 8th house.
So, there`s that strong Venus (Taurus) - Pluto (8th house) theme, mixed with Moon, Saturn and Aquarius (because my Moon is there).
I feel utterly drawn to men, who have a strong Scorpio-influence, preferably regarding their Moon (Moon in Scorpio or 8th house) and who also have Uranus-influence. I need men who can relate to that dilemma of staying detached (Aquarius) and feeling totally obsessed and needing to belong somewhere (Taurus - Scorpio).
And this theme is often repeated in synastry-aspects. There are almost always strong aspects from Pluto to Venus, Mars or Ascendant or planets in the 8th, 2nd or 11th house, or aspects of the ruler of the 8th house. Often there`s also an Uranus aspect, mostly to the Moon, AC or IC.
So, I`m passionately drawn to men, I share those combinations with.
But of course that doesn`t go for everybody.
Other may say: Uranus? Stay away with that cold, unpredictable heartbreaker! I really don`t need him in my life!
Maybe those people have a strong Moon or Neptune emphasis in their horoscopes (My problem is: I have some Neptune-influence, too, with my Neptune conjunct Ascendant, ruler of 1 in Pisces, Neptune conjunct Mars; well I never said my chart was an easy one. lol). However, someone with a dominant Moon - cancer - 4th house theme would probably need something totally different, a very nurturing caring character, who makes him or her feeling at home always, in a very gentle, warm manner.
I myself feel often suffocated by those Cancer-guys or on the other hand they get too boring for me. I know they are wonderful persons and not boring at all, but I need this excitement (Uranus) and also a bit of darkness (Pluto) in my life.

So, I think you have to look at your natal constellations first, before you can see, whom you`re attracted to.

DD

posted November 18, 2006 08:19 AM              

I didn`t find your 5th house ruler in conjunction to his Moon.
The ruler of your 5th house is the planet, which rules the sign on the cusp of this house.
Example:
Your 5th house has Scorpio on its cusp; Pluto is the natural ruler of Scorpio, so Pluto "rules" your 5th house, meaning: Pluto`s placement and aspects can say a lot about your creativity, your romantic side and all things, signified by 5th house.
BUT you have a conjunction of your Venus and his Moon IN your 5th house; you probably enjoy spending your time with him very much, there`s fun, romance, creativity indicated, and it`s probably emotionally very rewarding.

But back to the houserulers; your Venus is ruler of your 4th house (because Libra is on the cusp of that house and Venus is the ruler of Libra); so the ruler of your 4th house conjuncts his Moon, which indicates a strong emotional compatibility. Your emotional core, the way you feel deep down inside (your 4th house) and his emotions (Moon) are coloured by the same sign, Scorpio. That means, both of you have this emotional (Moon - 4th house) intensity and passion (Pluto - Scorpio) inside you and can understand each other emotionally.

But like Glaucus said, it´s not one aspect alone that makes or breaks a relationship. And watch out for that Moon - Neptune - square. It can cause some confusion and disappointment, because at first everything seems so perfect and then after a while you realize, that the other one is only human after all. There`s also a risk of feeling deserted. That`s at least how I experienced that square. I knew a man, whose Neptune was squaring my Moon. And after a while I started feeling as if I couldn`t reach him emotionally, as if he sometimes was absent, even though he was still around. I even accused him one time, that he stayed with me, just because he pitied me and didn`t want to hurt me by leaving me. I was behaving silly, I know. But that Neptune square made me feel very insecure after a while. I think the key to deal with that illusionary aspect is a good clear communication, talk, talk, talk about everything, especially your feelings and where the relationship is going, so there can`t be too many misunderstandings that will slowly erode the love you now feel.

posted November 20, 2006 04:20 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer