posted February 07, 2007 06:39 PM            

I thought that my depression had to do with the return as well, but it actually seems to be transiting saturn sq. my natal venus - not a fun one either. I don't study the transits much myself, but I'm sure that if HD takes a look at your chart he'll have some insight.

I understand you though...the SAME thoughts have been going through my head for weeks now. Who am I? Where am I going? What do I want to do with my life? What needs to be CHANGED in my life? etc., etc. I've also withdrawn from the world, and all of my friends. I'm just in a constant state of introspection, and I don't even feel like making an effort to socialize right now.

posted February 07, 2007 07:19 PM              

ok .. so arianettes are short on patience .. :-)

but .. one big thing is in the background .. i mean a big transit ..
and by background i mean it's likely to add to anything else ..
the transit is .. Pluto at a square aspect to your natal Mercury ..

this is just a brief basic interp from the files
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Pluto Squaring natal Mercury

You may find yourself questioning the values and viewpoints
which, so far, have sustained you through life. You’ll be taking
life more seriously, and thinking about things in a much deeper
and more significant way.

Your thoughts will be influenced by powerful emotions and
feelings...perhaps even re-awakening painful memories from the
past. But this is a time to learn from past experiences,
consider them a necessary and valuable lesson, and then look to
the future.

But do try to avoid trying to persuade others to your way of
thinking. If you’re too forceful in this persuasion, this will
undoubtedly cause conflicts. Friends, colleagues and family may
understand your points of view, but not necessarily agree with
them.

Someone may burden you with a secret, which you’ll find very
difficult to keep....or you may find that you’re prying into
affairs which don’t concern you...unearthing information which
could either prove upsetting or detrimental to you. This, in
itself, may lead to conflict.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
** Your thoughts will be influenced by powerful emotions and feelings.. **
i think that's the 'essence ' of it ..
but i'm saying that having had the same transiting aspect by 'opposition'
.. it was difficult .. obsessive thinking .. over emotional thoughts etc etc
unfortunately it's something i guess you'll have to put up with for a while yet ..
.. next 2 to 3 years ,, at a guess ..

it's not "full-on" all the time ..
but .. you'll have a tendency to feel it most under the 'shorter' transits ..

thing is .. er .. all other transits are shorter than one by pluto ..
ce la vie ..
.. one can only get pluto effecting a point in the natal .. once in a lifetime ..
so .. it cannot re-occur .. it just might go on a bit due to pluto going 'direct' then 'retrograde' ..
.. actually ..
Pluto is going over degrees that effect both your natal Merc and Venus placements ..
so .. things will seem intense .. now an again .. untill it passes ..
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.. you do have a Saturn to n.Uranus transit ongoing ..
ppl within a years birthdate of yourself .. will probably be experiencing that transit ..

posted February 07, 2007 07:55 PM              

mmmm .. you and Dreamy.b. both have the same saturn transit on ..
and you also have an ongoing Pluto transit ..
i.e. its sitting now .. just behind your asc in your 12th house ..
so .. it's in the main .. effecting your ascendant .. building up to it ..
the acs/desc axis .. and the mc/ic axis .. are very sensitive points ..
as is anything transiting one's 12th house ( just a personal opinion re that one )
.. as much as the natal 'personal' planets .. maybe more so at a guess ..
and as far as i know .. transiting Pluto has a fairly wide orb of effect ..
( .. despite it's actual physical side .. )

so .. you would have had a Pluto transit .. by 'conjunction' .. 2003/5
when Dreamy.b was having it transit her natal venus by square ..

posted February 09, 2007 05:32 PM              

Re:
* * Sometimes I have not considered myself a very patient person (everybody says I am not the typical Aries!) * *
I've only just added your birth time here ..

it shows ascendant at 27 Aries .. and most of Aries being your 12th house ..
so your Sun at 25 Aries is just behind your ascendant ..

* * but to my surprise, everybody thinks I am VERY patient, actually many people think I have too much patience, especially with people... I don't know... * *

re. the patience bit .. well .. Chiron in Taurus sits in your 1st house .. not too far from your ascendant ..
Taurus occupies most of your 1st house .. and Taurus generally is known for its patience ..
the 1st house is what other folks will see ..
maybe that might explain a few things .. including one workmate .. ??

** as I felt like crying.**

well .. at the risk of more ..
this singer is also an aries sun ..
her style is mainly 'country ~ western'
and .. out of curiosity i did a synastry chart between her chart and yours ..
.. in theory you might like her music and singing ..
see last post in this thread for details and music files ..
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