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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 17, 2007 08:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could y'all tell me more about a Uranus-Chiron opposition(3 degrees) in synastry?

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posted April 17, 2007 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquaspryt69, it's a website you can read more, here is a link...
http://www.magiastrology.com/index.html

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posted April 17, 2007 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MoonDreamer81, here are some of the Magi aspects...
http://www.jupitersweb.com/magi_astrology_aspects.htm

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 17, 2007 10:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx libraschoice7!!I've never been to that site before!The one I always end up at doesn't have nearly as much info!!

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Diandra23
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posted April 18, 2007 07:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

thankx for the link! Iīve never got to this and itīs really full of information that didnīt have on their site with so much detail.

IM very surprised cause Iīve found a new thing on my sinastry chart and itīs too good to be true!
They talked about the Romantic Mystical Triangle, and say is extremely rare...but i have that with my bf! i COULD be wrong and want so much having this but letīs see,if im right...

"A Mystical triangle is formed by three planets where one side is a trine, one side is a square and the third side is a quincunx. A Mystical Triangle in a CAC is very powerful and creates a very high level of mutual attraction.So when it comes to love, a Mystical Triangle formed by Chiron, Venus and Neptune is the most powerful of all possible Mystical Triangles and they are signs of nearly irresistible mutual romantic attraction. "

We have:
Meu venus square his Chiron ( 0a)
His quiron quicunkx my Neptune ( 0a)
My venus trine my Neptune ( -1a)

his chiron trines his venus (-1a)
his chiron quicunks my neptune (0a)
his venus square my neptune ( 0a)

So...we not only have one, but 2 mystical triangles???

MoonDreamer,they say uranus/kiron means reluctance to marry,but as Pidaua said,that could also mean up and downs in a relationship by the form of separations.
She has that with her Love and I have it to with mine,and also have separations cause we live in diferent cities

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 18, 2007 10:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well....I guess the "seperation" aspect could be the fact that it's a long-disance relationship... *Shrugs*

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Diandra23
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posted April 18, 2007 11:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes, the long distance relationships usually have that aspect...so im not surprised by having two times that uranus/chiron oposition ( -7s) and (-1a).

So, you to have a long distance romance?
and what about the other kiron aspects? do you have any? Itīs a pitty we dont have acess to do declination charts ( it acess us to see if there are more good/bad aspects)

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ErickaF
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posted April 18, 2007 12:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about uranus 28 degrees and chiron taurus 2 degrees...considered opposites?!?!?

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 18, 2007 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets see...other Chiron aspects....Both our Chirons are at 18 degrees Taurus....

~His Chiron conj. my Mars in Taurus
~His Chiron conj my Chiron in taurus
~His Chiron square my Saturn in Libra(uh,oh!)

~My Chiron trine his Sun in Virgo
~My Chiron trine his Jupiter in Virgo
~My Chiron opp. his Uranus in Scorpio

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Diandra23
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posted April 18, 2007 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Moondreamer you must read the Magy site that Libra gave to, the principal link.

I see you have 2 Cinderella Linkages ( jupter and sun) thatīs why youīre in love with him, no matter the distance aspect..i know cause i have it too .
The mars-chiron linkage is good to, matters a good sexual intimacy!
I too have the kironīs conjunct but dont know what that means...

the sun-chiron is also the "Trust Linkage".

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 18, 2007 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thx!!!I needed some good news today!!That makes my day!!

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 18, 2007 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well everything is positive except for a "Nuclear Clash" we have invoving Chiron and Saturn.Maybe the other 5 links will make up for it...

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Diandra23
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posted April 18, 2007 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

ErikaF
i dont really know if itīs oposite cause im not an astrology student, im just a curious person about astrology and like to analyse it

But you can know by looking at the sinastry table in Astrodienst.Youīll see it itīs oposed when kiron and uranus make that angle, it appears on that table.
Itīs on the left side in above of the chart sinastry. Itīs in pdf.

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Diandra23
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posted April 18, 2007 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moondreamer when you talked about that kiron-saturn hard aspect, i remembered someting iīve red on a site: http://www.astro-de-la-soul.com/astrologicalcompatibility.html

She says somethings i dont quite agree ( it lacks more details concerning the Magy) Bbut she really said something important:

the couple Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward had that saturn-kiron hard aspect...and they lived happily together:

"So overall they had FOUR harmonious aspects involving Chiron
and with the 3 beneficial planets - Venus, Jupiter, and Neptune -
WOW that doesn't happen too often!
They also had that bummer of an aspect too
and that is Saturn opposite Chiron, but they
had so many forunate ones
that it helped tremendously to keep them together.

So here's an example of Chiron being opposite Saturn and they're still together. I'll bet it got a bit bumpy there for awhile when there was a transit affecting that aspect. But luckily they have so many other aspects denoting compatibility and longevity."

So, everything itīs important to look at.
I believe the hard aspects are also motivators,like Tim says, and so, we can turned them into positive aspects.

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tara19
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posted April 18, 2007 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys, quick reply here...

Chirons conjunct mean shared destiny which can be good OR bad.

Chiron-Uranus is not a good aspect to have in a synastry, especially if it's close. It really does cause a lot of unpredictability in emotions between the two people. And its effect is doubled if there are other hard Uranus aspects involved between them. And that means parallels and contraparallels as well as longitudinal aspects.

I am one who doesn't believe that one hard Saturn-Chiron aspect can destroy a relationship. I think it needs more bolstering. But if a synastry has two or three of those heartbreak (Saturn-Chiron) and nuclear (Saturn-Jupiter) clashes as well as some of what the Magi call the Classic Schisms, then in the end, it has a greater chance of failing than succeeding. Also, remember that according to the Magi, the initial effect of the Saturn-Chiron clash is to generate emotional closeness between two people. That's the reason why it's termed the "heartbreak aspect"... one has to have the heart involved in order for it to break.

Stay cool... cheers...

Tara x

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posted April 18, 2007 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband and I have a tight Jupiter Chiron trine which is a romance and Cinderella linkage, and a wide (5 degree) Venus Chiron conjunction which is also both a romance and cinderella linkage. Those aspects are with my Chiron.

My Mars is quincunx my husband's Chiron, I have is a Mars quincunx, and according to Magi astrology, Mars trine or sextile/conjunct/quincunx with Chiron indicates marriage, while stressful aspects like squares or opposition indicate that the couple will not marry. However, my husband's Mars squares my Chiron, and we still got married, so I guess the quincunx was stronger than the square, hehe.

But, I also dated someone who had his Mars and Venus trine and conjunct my chiron, his Mars conjunct my Venus and trine my moon, his Chiron conjunct my ascendant, and we didn't get married. So...

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 18, 2007 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ALL relationships are what you make of them,regardless of astro stuff!Some will just be easier,but they all have challenges....

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Jazzebel
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posted April 18, 2007 08:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus opposited Chiron for nearly 20 years. All of us have it in our charts

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posted April 19, 2007 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

quck question.. in the first post there were linkages described..

I was wondering do they have to go both ways? cuase I think her jupiter links my chiron but my jupiter doesnt link hers.. oh and for the other linkages what does it mean if they are in opposition instead of another aspect???

I would really like to know... but I will prolly just end up posting the chart

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posted April 19, 2007 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems too general for me to be honest.
I have one of each for every person I looked at, and I haven't married any of them.

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Diandra23
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posted April 19, 2007 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Tara
thankx for your insight!
the uranus-chiron hard aspects i have 2 (-1a) and (-7s), so i think it has a double effect? cant those be contraballanced by the okther kiron linkages, as also cinderellas?

we also have a jupiter-kiron oposition ( -5s)
but as they use a tigh orb dont know if those counts.

Belage,
according to Maggi there are several couples that have both hard and easy aspects at the same time, so i think that depending on the entire sonastry aspects, could go for both ways: good or bad.
i thought that mars-kiron would have something to do with sexual imtimacy,and not marriage, since it has more to do with the venus-kiron and jupiter-kiron.

Moondreamer i agree completely with you.No relationship is perfect, and always demand work and challenges from both parts.

Jazzebell
are you talking about birth charts? what does that mean specifically havin it not in a sinastry but in natal chart?

SeingStars7.21
hi it doesnt have to go on both ways;you can have the aspect and the other person dont.
Hard aspects are challenging,but depending on what planets are, it has specific meaning.
You can go to the sites Librachoice gave and youīll find out what they mean. Read it carefully cause Magy has a lot to say about it.
I too have those hard aspects between kiron and other planets, but the outcome of the relationship depends of the entire sinastry,the composite,the progressive composites and also free will

CoralFrequency
you have every linkages to kiron with every person you looked at?Really? Can you post them here? maybe some have larger orbs than other, Magy uses 3š degree orbs.
Also,they defend that people who have those aspects are likelly to marry and fall in love, but doenst give a 100% chance of course. It is necessary to have cinderellas linkages, super romantic linkages and also the grand trine envolving kiron( this last one improves greatly the chances).
http://www.magisociety.com/steveallen.html

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tara19
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posted April 19, 2007 12:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi diandra!

Well, I think it just makes it more difficult for things to stay on an even keel between people. I've had this with someone, and I noticed that our emotional interaction (chiron) was very turbulent and unpredictable (uranus). There were these highs and then there were these lows/troughs. But our sexual and intellectual attraction toward each other (which were both pretty ginormous) were constant and steady.

The Jupiter-Chiron opposition/clash the Magi say is not that big a deal. Apparently, it can be ameliorated by good linkages. It's one of the easier clashes to deal with.

The Mars-Chiron linkage they call the marital-sexual linkage and they haven't downgraded it yet so I think its strength still stands with them. Personally, I think it needs to be a part of overall good geometry like a GT etc to be helpful to a couple. I think it's very sexual! We had this one, as well.

Having Uranus-Chiron in a birth chart (and many of us do, as jazzebel said) basically means that our freedom and space needs are paramount. Uranus-Chiron will NEVER be fenced in emotionally. Remember that the Magi ascribe romantic EMOTION to Chiron and romantic ATTRACTION to Venus.

Tara xx

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Diandra23
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posted April 19, 2007 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thankx Tara,it seems you cover a lot of issues on Magy! itīs always good to share our thoughts about new things and views of astrology.

I do agree with what youīve said. Our emotions tend to be very intense and turbulent when we have diferent points of view.Sparkless fly all over the place! But when we are alright,thereīs a great intimcay and cumplicity. Itīs so strange experiencing the suddents high and low..
We have also a oposition(-3s)mars-kiron and a quintile( 1s). But i think that the venus/pluto/neptune-kiron linkage are the key that ballances that challenges.

You know what? I feel we are together to heal ourselves with one another.
When im with him i feel the urge to hugh him and never let go. And when we do that,itīs like an eternal bond,and nothing else matters.
This is for good or for bad.

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aquaspryt69
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posted April 19, 2007 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool sites guys. Thx!!

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posted April 20, 2007 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Diandra,

I may have misunderstood this. If you only need *one* aspect in each category, I find it too general as I always have one..

For instance, romance aspect – Venus trine Neptune. I have this in my chart, so all the guys in my generation had Neptune trine my Venus.

Then, Cinderella Linkages – I almost always have Kiron/Jupiter with friends and past dates.. and my ex-bf (only serious relationship).. because they are born in ’85 and it so happens that their Jupiter is in early Aquarius. My Chiron is in early Gemini.

As for the third – Romantic Super Linkages –

In my chart I have Chiron sextile Sun.. and “the other person” in all of the cases above has Jupiter in Aquarius linking to my Chiron and my Sun.

Plus, their own Chiron being in early Gemini is also usually sextile my Sun.

So I almost always have one of each.. If you needed more than one to hear wedding bells, then I’d find it more credible.

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