posted April 21, 2007 09:19 AM              

Not necessarily. It would mean something if you happen to have Uranus or chiron conjunct another planet like the sun, moon, venus, mars etc. or an angle or two. Then, it ups the ante, so to speak.

And also an ex bf of mine was born in the early sixties. He had an uranus-chiron opposition in his natal chart. So do I. But the two pairs DO NOT oppose each other. As in, my Uranus and his chiron do not oppose each other and his Uranus and my chiron do not oppose each other. Just because BOTH people have the aspect in their individual charts does not mean that the aspect would exist in their synastry unless they were of the same age, of course.

Just clearing that one up.

CoralFrequency, yeah, it takes way more than one (or even two) RSLs for a relationship to result in marriage. Free will is an important factor, so also is time and suitability. many people we might have a great relationship with aren't right for us in other ways.

Also, the magi say that the chiron contacts between charts need to be focus aspects in the synastry (meaning, they need to be the tightest ones between those two people).

posted April 21, 2007 03:15 PM              

I have that problem with ALL branches of astrology. While I've studied it for about 25 years now, I still take ALL of it with a grain of salt. It takes more than the planets to make or break us.

Magi astrology is just another branch under the overall umbrella. Like all astrology, it's not meant to be taken to heart without testing. They say so, as well. So test, test, test... don't believe anything unless you've tested it.

The thing is, most people don't have either the means, or the time, or the inclination to do research. Those are the people who have a problem with blanket statements (magi or otherwise). But if you care to test the findings, you will find that like all other kinds of astrology, the Magi stuff is 70-30. That is, it usually is correct about 70% of the time. The spillover 30% is pretty much free will.

posted April 23, 2007 12:06 PM              

Iīve been away so only now iīve red your posts.
Thanks for the answers, i really appreciate that.

I started reading Magi cause me and my bf have many kiron aspects,and so, in a research I found their site, and started reading.
Their site tells lot of things, and gives many celebrity examples of what they defend.
Of Course it would be to general if ot only had to have one of the aspects, but they say itīs necessary to have all to " the 2 persons fall in love and probably get married"..itīs not like we all will get marry to all the people we have that aspects..as Tara says itīs necessary to look for the entire chart and see the potencials and all that stuff.
But as i have been reading for your posts itīs really true that you fall in love and date with those people with whom you have those aspects

Thatīs why iīve started this thread: see if married people here on LL really have those aspects Magy defend, i thaught it would be fun to see and it is being very interesting to discuss this

posted April 23, 2007 03:59 PM            

What we have is:

~ My Chiron opposite Sun (8 degree orb though...what does this mean?)

~ My Chiron quincunx his Venus (1 degree orb)

~ My Chiron trine his Jupiter (3 deg orb)

~ My Chiron quincunx his Neptune (2 deg orb)

~ My Chiron quincunx his Pluto (2 deg orb)

~ His Chiron trine my Mars (7 deg orb)

~ His Chiron trine my Neptune (1 deg orb)

~ My Venus quincunx his Neptune (0 deg orb)

~ Also, we have my Juno quincunxing his Chiron at a 0 degree orb

~ We further have Venus conjunct Pluto at a 6 degree orb

As for the negative ones, his Uranus is quincunx my Jupiter (which is supposedly baaaaad) however my Uranus sextiles his Jupiter...would this latter aspect somewhat negate the supposed Nuclear Clash of the former aspect?

And as for all of our linkages...what would they mean overall? I'm not sure how to make that magical trine or whatever it's called...

For those of you who know more about the Magi stuff, what would you think of these aspects?

posted April 26, 2007 08:40 AM              

Well.lOVE, for me it seems you have 5 cinderella linkages,which is pretty dawm good for a relationship!
On the above links LibRA gave, you can see what particular aspects means
Im not an astrology student, im just a curious who find this science a fascinating issue and very truthfull to help us.

Concerning the Chiron Linkages here it goes:

"Chiron versus Juno Rule One: Any Chiron Linkage formed between the two persons increases the chances of marriage between two persons, except the Chiron/Juno linkage.

Chiron versus Juno Rule Two: Any Juno linkage formed between two persons reduces the chances of marriage between the two persons, except the Chiron/Juno Linkage.

Chiron Versus Juno Rule Three: The Chiron/Juno linkage neither increases nor decreases the chances of marriage; it does however greatly increase the chances of a long-term intimate relationship between two heterosexual persons (it does not increase the chances of a long-term intimate relationship between same-sex couples). "

kiron/venus means real and true love( itīs the most reliable sign of marriage);
kiron/jup means sucessfull marriage;
kiron/nep means long term attraction;
venus/neptune means romance aspect;
venus/pluto is a sexual linkage ;
kiron/mars means marital sexual linkage;
kiron/pluto is one of the rare ones- itīs very powerfull-they say

posted April 26, 2007 10:08 AM              

On the other hand, I wouldn`t fall for EVERYONE, who makes the Chiron-Pluto-aspect with me. I think, for an attraction to develop, there have to be another "hook", and this hook might be aspects to personal planets.
In my case this Jupiter-Pluto-quinkunx from Pisces to Libra is also square / sextile my ASC / Neptune / NN-stellium, Pluto sits on top of my Midheaven and Jupiter is my chartruler, so I guess, I have some personal connections to this linkage.
Also, on the other side, those men, which Chiron links to my Jupiter-Pluto often also have personal planets involved in that; often it is Venus, but Mercury also did the trick for me (Mercury is the ruler of my 7th house).

I think you have to see the big picture to evaluate, if such a generational aspect can be effective in producing attraction and compatibility.

Darkdreamer

posted April 26, 2007 10:44 AM              

It must be taken into account the whole chart and not only the Magi stuff.
But yes,i do wonder like you,cause people who post here their aspects really have those interaspects ( and so confirm in that way that falin love with)..
I wanted really to see if already married people really had all those aspects and the respective tirnes with kiron.

posted April 26, 2007 12:57 PM              

yes, I`m also interested in testing this theory.
I did a short, very superficial, scan of my parents` synastry magi-style.
They have been married for 33 years now and obviously are still in love.

They have 4 positive Chiron-aspects and 2 negative ones (I didn`t check their Romance Superlinkages):
Her Chiron is trine his Moon
Her Chiron is parallel his Jupiter - a Cinderella
Her Chiron is parallel his Vesta
Her Pluto is trine his Chiron

Ah, there they are again, Chiron-Jupiter and Chiron-Pluto; mmh, maybe that`s the reason I`m drawn to men who make those linkages with me; I already know this kind of energy through my parents. Just a theory.

HOwever her Chiron is also opposite his URanus - they have always been living together, but there have been a lot of ups and downs, mostly due to the changes in my dad`s career.
And her Venus is square his Chiron - which is called "impossible dream clash", but despite all difficulties, this particular clash also signifies a tremendous romantic attraction, which is so true in their case.
One thing my mother once said, when she was quite unhappy with her life, illustrates this very much. She said: "I would divorce your father rather today than tomorrow, if I didn`t love him so much."
Circumstances had been horrible at that time, but their love for each other has kept them going on, I guess.

As you can see there are not that many romance-linkages, only Chiron-Jupiter-one, but they do have 2 sexual linkages.
Her Mars is quinkunx his Venus
Her Venus is contraparallel his Juno - it`s called the "Ultimate sexual linkage", and additionally her Venus-Mars-conjunction is conjunct my father`s ascendant.

They also have some Saturn-linkages to keep them grounded.
Her Saturn conjunct and parallel his Mars
Her Venus conjunct his Saturn

And there is one Saturn-clash,
her Neptune contraparallel his Saturn, but I guess with all those positive things going on between them, they learned to deal with the clash.

Another example is a friend of mine; her husband and her have the Venus-Chiron-linkage (the magical marriage linkage), but also the SAturn-Chiron-clash (Heartbreak clash); well to say it with few words, their marriage is a challenge, but very rewarding for both of them; certainly not the romantic bliss you`d expect from a young couple, but there is much trust, reliability, responsibility for each other, with a deep, loyal kind of love. I wonder how this will all play out over time. But they are both beautiful, mature souls, so I really keep my fingers crossed for them.

posted April 26, 2007 01:21 PM              

My parents are married for 42 years now..many ups and downs too, i presumethey also have that uranus thing ( i dont know my fatherīs time birth so cant do the sinastry

cONCERNING your friends, i hope they master that. As long as their love is stronger than the rest,they will manage dont worry

posted April 27, 2007 10:46 AM              

My Dad told me he was born in the morning, so i did their sinastry,by using 10:00 am.
My momīs timming and b-day is acurate, so i guess the results are acurrate too.

Here it goes:

A psychic told my Mom they are soulmates,and lived together other lifes

They īve been married for 43 years now,with many ups and downs,some fights ( their tempers clash) but with many love,respect and affection between them.

They have:

- venus/kiron trine ( Cinderella powerful aspect)
- mars/kiron trine ( sexual marital linkage)
- uranus/kiron trine ( good emotional understanding, i think)
- saturn/kiron trine
- kiron/neptune conjunction (long-term commitment and atraction)
- kiron/amor trine
- Psyche/kiron quicunkx

kiron trines Asc and MC

i think that the ups and downs in their marriage though, resulted from the sun/uranus and sun/neptune squares..

In general, i think that they do are still in love with each other and will allways are

posted April 27, 2007 10:58 AM              

Well, sdo you think that having the mystical triangle ( that i posted some posts ago) counts to reinforce that compatibility?