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Diandra23
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posted April 12, 2007 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi all

i´ve been reading the Magi Astrology and they have some sort of studies that confirm that married people have always the following aspects: A cinderella linkage( at least one),Romance Linkage and Super Romance Linkages.
So, whenever a couple has these 3 characteristics, it´s almost likely that they will marry.

Linkages ( trine,conjunct,quicunkx on tight orbs) between Kiron and :

Any romance planets:

1. Venus links Chiron, meaning uniting (Venus) into a family (Chiron) or combined (Venus) destinies (Chiron).

2. Venus links Neptune, meaning long-term (Neptune) attraction (Venus) and
attachment (Venus).

3. Chiron links Neptune, meaning long-term (Neptune) marriage (Chiron).

4. Jupiter links Chiron, meaning successful (Jupiter) marriage (Chiron)


Cinderella Linkage:

1.Kiron-sun

2.kiron-venus ( also the romance linkage)

3.kiron-neptune ( also a romance linkage)

4.kiron-jupiter( also a romance linkage)

5.kiron-pluto

Romancic Super Linkages

Whenever:

1. One person has a Chiron-aspect, and the other person has a planet that links to Chiron.

2. One person has an aspect, and the other person's Chiron links to one of the planets that forms the aspect.

So, it would be fun if married knowflakes "testify" if these characteristics are true or just nonsense ;

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MoonDreamer81
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posted April 12, 2007 04:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not married yet!But am more "in Love" than I've ever been!He knows me SOO well.I know we have a Chiron linkage...unsure about anything else!Have a look....

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libraschoice7
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posted April 12, 2007 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mind if I participate? I've been with my boyfriend for 8 years, and we do have some of the Magi aspects you are talking about...

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pidaua
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posted April 12, 2007 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband, Bear the Leo, and I have several aspects..

1) His chiron in Aries trines my Venus in Sag

2) His chiron also trines my Sun in Sag

3) My chiron in Aries trines his Neptune in Sag

4) My chiron in Aries sextiles his Jupiter in Aquarius

5) His Venus in Virgo sextiles my Neptune in Scorp

6) My chiron trines his Sun in Leo

as far as Super Romantic-

My Moon in Aries conjuncts my Chiron- his Sun trines both as well as trines my Sun (just as chiron trines my own natal Sun and Venus)

My chiron trines Neptune- while his Venus also forms a link to my Neptune.

His natal Chiron trines his Sun and my Chiron / Sun trines his Sun as well.

We have tons of Chiron and personal planet interactions as well as a grand trine involving Chiron

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katipo
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posted April 12, 2007 04:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have spent some time recently studying the magi site, I've also been married......twice....both my husbands have Chiron/Mars aspects with me, there are other relationship/attraction aspects, however I suspect too many heartbreak aspects as well. Pity I didn't know about astrology then.

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libraschoice7
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posted April 12, 2007 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua! hey nice to see you over here in the astrology thread I see you have Venus trine Chiron with your love, it's one of the best ones to have.

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Diandra23
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posted April 12, 2007 04:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone who feels the need to participate is welcome

Moondreamer: I dont know how to read charts,im sorry.But you can see those aspects in the tables that appear on the buttom of that astrodienst page, that are in pdf.

Librachoice: i think i´ve red somewhere that you to read the Magi so, do you often see people together for many time, having these aspects?
I think it´s possible cause on Magi i´ve red all that couple´s readings and they match.
I have kind of some doubts still because :
arent there many people who can have those aspects with us? these aspects are so wide that make me think about the probabilities.
But im not any astrology student, so i dont know if the probabilities of having these aspects are high or low..
But it seems interesting enough to test!

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libraschoice7
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posted April 12, 2007 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra23, yes I've read some of Magi's articles before, and there are things in their articles that I believe and others I don't. The ones that might have some standing are Venus trine chiron(considered true love aspect), Mars/chiron(romantic and sexual aspect), and Uranus/chiron(ups and downs on marriage) this is one I have with my 8 year boyfriend, and we're not married.

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Diandra23
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posted April 12, 2007 04:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Pidaua:

What a beautiful aspect,having a grand trine with chiron! According to MAgi that´s really great for a couple:.

"The existence of a Romantic Super
Linkage that forms a Grand Trine makes the marriage destined-almost like it was written as a sign in the heavens."

It must be wonderfull having that.

With Romantic Super Linkages said:

"the result of Romantic Super Linkages is not just attraction. It also
promotes harmony, being in tune with each other, trusting each other; and feeling
empty, lonely, and lost without each other. It creates the compatibility and dynamics for lasting love to develop between the two persons. Most of all, it creates the need for each other, and only each other, such that the relationship advances to marriage."

tHE Mars-Kiron its still a chiron linkage,but think are not an aspect that for ilself indicates a great probablillity of wanting and getting married.
Didn´t you had other chiron aspects,besides that?

This is one of the pages that is interesting to read about Magi.Then, you could go to the main page and read the lessons and then explore all the texts
http://www.magisociety.com/celebritylovers.html

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Bucketrider
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posted April 12, 2007 09:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ive had venus trine chiron and a boatload of good aspects and did not fall in love with the person. Ive been researching their theory very closely in my dating life and what I have come up with is this: there is a great deal of truth to the chiron aspects. Especially to inner planets. Outer planets are not as clear (chiron/neptune for instance). The bottom line with chiron though is unless inner planet needs are taken care of first, chiron aspects will not materialize into a relationship. Old school astrology stuff like the sign the venus is in, what house its in - how it plays out with a potential partners synastry. The sign/house of the moon. The north/south nodes are hugely important and are very indicative of major relationships of all types. The sun/moon midpoint also. If a partner has no hard aspect to the others sun/moon midpoint, it prob wont end in major committment.

AND more significant than any of these is that without at least one hard (or very tight trine) saturn aspect to an inner planet - there wont be a relationship.
I have had more than one dating situation that started out looking amazing, with *chiron trine venus* and all kinds of great synastry aspects like mars trine venus, mars trine sun, mars trine mars, mars sextile asc, etc and it goes nowhere bec there were no saturn aspects.

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Diandra23
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posted April 13, 2007 07:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I also believe that it wont be enough having those Magi aspects without having other major aspects that the Astrology holds on to.
But concerning to those hard or very tight trine between saturn and some inner planet,Magi says that it would create a Saturn Bond or Saturn captivation,where the saturn person will be controlling the other,being the captivated one.
That it will lead to a battle of power and control between the 2 persons.
That´s a thing that clashes between the 2 Astrologies.
One says that without those aspects,the relationship wont last ( the saturn person is the teacher and the other the student); the other says it will end up in heartbreack by having those same aspects.

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libraschoice7
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posted April 13, 2007 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But what if you have a ton of Saturn aspects, along with all the sexual and romantic linkages , and the two Saturn clashes with a person? How does something like that play out? Perhaps at first a strong attraction(or the Saturn bond thing going on)with a terrible heartache at the end...or would the Saturn clashes prevent any kind of attraction from happening, after all Saturn is also about restriction.

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katipo
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posted April 13, 2007 04:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The info in the magi site has kept me riveted for days....

My first husband and I have him/saturn trine me/chiron, (1deg) also him/chiron inconjunct/quincux me/mars exact, we have tons of aspects, my sun/uranus are trine, throw his mercury into the mix we have a grand trine (3deg). He was violent, abusive (physically & mentally) and a rapist...an aquarius

My second husband and I have him/jupiter conjunct my Chiron, him/Chiron square my Mars, him/Mars trine me/Chiron. he was wasteful, gambled our money, very hard work, it also didn't help he left our home for five months while serving in the australian army overseas 3 weeks after our marriage...Aries sun (Im aries rising)...

Our marriage charts I've yet to decipher, their natals were enough work for me, lol...I havent' any rising signs for them as I don't have birth times.

My man and I have lots of aspects, Chiron/Mars square (again) his Venus trine Mars trines my Saturn, his Saturn trine my Mars, his Mercury trines my Sun/Uranus trine, Chiron sextile him/sun, Im trying to find specifically the 'cinderella' or 'romantic' linkages....gah it's hard work for some

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libraschoice7
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posted April 13, 2007 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The magical triangle is one I like to look for(Venus, Neptune, Chiron), it's suppose to make you fall in love with someone real easy and make you want to do anything to be with them. The truth in that remains to be seen.

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katipo
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posted April 13, 2007 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Neptune conjunction with my love...annd about a thousand other guys..lol, the Venus/Neptune/chiron links thus far I haven't found with anyone...sigh!...

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katipo
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posted April 13, 2007 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, just checked out our 'first meeting chart' my love and I, there's a huge rectangle, Neptune sextile Pluto trine Venus sextile moon, no chiron there....Chiron quincux venus.

Re the Saturn stuff, we do have power issues, he's more adventurous/passionate, I'm the 'cold shower' mostly, he's bossy, I'm immovable...lol I think Linda said once "it's better to find a volcano and fight with it, rather than an angry bull" or something similar.

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libraschoice7
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posted April 13, 2007 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I really want to know is about having a Venus quindecile chiron with someone? This one I have with my man

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Diandra23
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posted April 14, 2007 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Librachoice:

i think that having many aspects with saturn isnt bad by itself, unless the most of them are hard aspects.
They say that having the saturn conecting t oour personal planets, bonds the persons together along the time.
But according to Magi, beeing for example:

"Saturn Bond:

"occurs in a CAC when one person’s Saturn forms a trine, conjunction or parallel to the other person’s Chiron, Venus, Neptune, Jupiter or Sun.

One of the results of a Saturn Bond is that the person who contributes the Saturn (called the Saturn Person) has a great deal of control over the other person (called the Passive Person).

A Saturn Bond creates an unequal relationship where the Saturn Person is in the driver’s seat and the Passive Person is a less than equal partner and can feel like he or she is trapped in the relationship but does not know how to get out.

To summarize, when a CAC has a Saturn Bond, the Saturn Person is the Trapper and the Passive Person is the Captive.

SATURN CLASHES ALSO CREATE CAPTIVITY

But a Saturn Clash exists in a CAC when one person’s Saturn is square, opposed, quincunx or contra-parallel to any natal planet of the other person.

Like the Saturn Bond, in a Saturn Clash, the person who contributes the Saturn is the Saturn Person and the other person is the Passive Person and the Saturn Person has a degree of control over the Passive Person.

the worst Saturn Clashes are Saturn Clashes made to Neptune, Venus and Sun. (This is logical because Neptune and Venus are Romance Planets and the Sun represents the person.) These three Saturn Clashes are Bitter Saturn Clashes."

it´s not so good.

But we must see all the chart and not concentrate in a specific detail.
I have a chart very strange with my partner for example:
Some say it is going to be dificult having a long lasting relationship unless we put a lot of hard work in it all the time.
And we have the venus/chiron linkage,the pluto/chiron and the kiron/neptune and sun/chiron.we also have the super romantik linkages as well as some sexual linkages.
but yet, we do have the impossible dream clash also ( which difficults that long term relation i want to have).

we have one satur bond ( moon quicunk hic chiron) and a lot of other aspects between satur and planets ( without being the clashes or bonds)

So, i believe in free will and i wiil do whatever i can to make this thing last, knowing that it will be hard but it also is worth

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Diandra23
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posted April 14, 2007 10:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i went searching the quindecile aspect and found:

"If planets are in quindecile aspect within the synastry of two horoscopes, it indicates obsessive/compulsive inclinations within that relationship. When both persons have natal quindecile(s) and there are quindecile(s) through synastry of the two horoscopes, the relationship dynamics may be overwhelmingly obsessive/compulsive. This inclination will not be nearly as powerful if those involved do not have quindecile(s) within their own natal horoscopes. If person “A” has natal quindecile(s), and person “B” doesn’t, the obsession/compulsion within the relationship may be one-sided, with “A” focusing on “B”."

dont know if this has any meaning to you, but it was here i found it if you wanna take a look.
Of course it doens´t relates specifically to venus and chiron aspecting but maybe it helps
http://www.llewellyn.com/bookstore/article.php?id=109

And here is a book about the quindecile:
http://www.llewellyn.com/bookstore/blurb.php?pn=K562&type=Excerpt

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pidaua
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posted April 14, 2007 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra,

Yes, Bear and I have some really super aspects and when we met we KNEW we needed to be together. No matter what life (or his ex-wife) throws at us, we've been able to handle it in stride. We do have the Uranus-Chiron opposition and the ups and downs usually manifest in the form of "being apart". Since he is in the Army, we never know what will happen. We've been apart more than we've been together since we've been married- now with the deployment we'll have spent less than 3 months together in 1.5 years (we were married June 29, 2006 and he is due to return in November 2007).

BUT... we have this amazing ability to communicate, not just through e-mail or by phone, but in thought. I can feel his presence and there are times when I will wake up with a clear impression of something and then he'll tell me he was either thinking of me or received a package etc... at the time I woke up. He does the same with me LOL...

I believe that if we didn't have such a strong method of communication as well as deep love for each other, the separations would make us crazy and with some couples, we've seen it tear them apart.

Libra,

How are you? I'm back and hopefully once Verizon finally gets it's act together, I'll have dsl instead of this dial up crap. They've been dinking around for almost a month now LOL..

I hope all is well!!!

Hugs,

pidaua

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libraschoice7
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posted April 14, 2007 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua, everything is ok, I am still trying to adjust to my move from Tucson to Phoenix, I am just sitting around the house playing on the computer till I start my new job on Monday. How was your move, was hard to leave(you were also in AZ if I recall) or were you excited to go? For some changing locations is easy but for others it's kind of rough...

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Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
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pidaua
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posted April 14, 2007 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Libra,

Oh... leaving Cochise County (Bisbee) was hard. I fell in love with that part of Arizona as did Bear. We definitely want to make that our home and will buy land as soon as we can. It will be the duty station that he retires from.

I'm in Idaho until he comes back from Iraq, then we'll either go to Germany or see if he can transfer to the unit in Italy (either way, as long as we're together, I'm happy). Knowing the Army, our next duty station could be in El Paso (I guess that would still count as foreign LOL).

My dad lives near Phoenix (just outside in Litchfield Park). He loves it, but I love the smaller towns like Bisbee and Sierra Vista. Tucson is nice, but it is just growing big time these days.

Arizona is my favorite state. We've been spending time there since I was a kid and we knew dad would retire there. Then I had to go and marry an Arizona boy (hee hee.. Bear is definitely a sun seeker), so that sealed the deal that I'd be back.

People in Arizona, especially the smaller towns, are friendly and more approachable that some of the places I've lived (I've been all over through work, but I lived on the East Coast, in the Northwest and I'm from California). I miss the Southwest more than I can say.. oh well.. Idaho ain't so bad- even though many of the people seem like pods LOL....

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Kat
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posted April 16, 2007 05:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and most importantly magi astrology only allows a 3 degree orb or less! A grand trine should be created in combination of the two charts!

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Diandra23
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posted April 17, 2007 07:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua
Reading your post i do believe you´re really soulmates,it must be wonderful,even having those distance between you..but thiñk also that contributes to reinforce your love.

Kat
well,the orbit they use is really tight and must be cause having no orb to follow,we would having those aspects with lot of guys ( i think)
So,let me ask you something: on that tables from Astro, when appears the aspects with negativ aspects, those doesn´t count?

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aquaspryt69
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posted April 17, 2007 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I'm totally curious about this Magi Astrology. Is it a site or a book? How do I go about finding out if any of these aspects exist in my current relationship?


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