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jane
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posted November 02, 2007 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anna - "oh no! conveniently forgot about those orbs....even more of his mars aspects crumbling...eh, crashing down."
You're adorable.

One of the couples I looked at that night have a Mars-Mars opposition. They're not together anymore, but they were on and off for years. About 5 years, starting with when they met in college. They have a lot of squares and oppostions in synastry, so it wasn't just the Mars opposition contributing to their relationship's volatility. But, they are a good couple to look at for this discussion, b/c that opposition and her Saturn conjunct his Mars were his only Mars aspects, and there was still a very strong sexual attraction on his part (hers too). If anything, I'd think a Saturn-Mars conjunction would put a damper on a guy's sexual feelings, so a Mars opposition must be pretty potent to withstand that aspect.

I don't know if you're the same way, but I know we both have Venus in Cap and if you're anything like me, you're very good at not appearing to be interested when you actually are. Maybe if you gave him more of an indication that you're interested, he would do so, too. Just a suggestion , I know how we Venus in Caps like to take our sweet time.

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posted November 02, 2007 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkdreamer - "Wow, that was really mean!"
It was what he wanted! It would've been mean NOT to do it!
"Seems you`ve had a very, mmh, steamy relationship"
Eh, mere training wheels for my Taurus.

"So, you`d say the one with the 8th house for example would be helplessly drawn to the planet`s person?"
In theory, yes, that's the way I think it works. The house person automatically feels affected by the planet person in that area of their life, and the planet person feels drawn to affecting that part of the house person's life. It's a mutual attraction. Of course, this is theoretical and doesn't always work that way. Some people don't like a certain house and wouldn't welcome anyone into that house of theirs; some people don't like to play a certain house's role and wouldn't give that part of themselves to someone else even if they knew the other person wanted it.
I can relate to your experience with Venus falling in your 5th. One of my best friends has her Pisces Moon in my 5th house. Our relationship has from the very start had a romantic feel to it. Not in a sexual way, but in a very creative, pure joy way. We have the same sense of humor and shine a light on that part of one another. We often make gifts for one another, usually something based on inside jokes. She lights me up. I adore her completely.

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posted November 02, 2007 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane! DD!

DD I always love your posts...they really make ya dig and want to look at everyone's charts you know in the universe to see the patterns. You're a born astrologer/teacher!

Jane...I had to crack up reading some of these. I have a flash image of you on one of those Harlequin romance novel covers with a half torn gown, your long flowing hair all messed up, and Gerard Butler standing behind you with Fabio hair and no shirt! HAaaaaa! How go the wedding plans?

DD...will come back and dig up more again tonight! Keep these great topics coming!

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posted November 02, 2007 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th Moon - Damn, and I've been trying so hard not to reveal identifying details about my career!
In our case, I guess I'd be wearing a graduation gown since it was a college romance. And of course the book would have some horribly lame double entendre as the title, like "The Class of 69."
Please don't ruin my fantasies about Gerard Butler by giving him Fabio hair. You just made my SO very happy.

The wedding planning is going well, mainly b/c it's been going (after a couple months of procrastination). My Virgo planets are getting to have their fun.

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posted November 03, 2007 07:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eighth Moon,

thank you.
And I can`t wait for more of your thoughts. I love this place, because I`m learning so much here.

Jane,
I agree with you. Someone who doesn`t like his 8th house, will probabl feel a certain antagonism towards a person who triggers Pluto / 8th house energies in him.

But regarding the 5th house, yes, it`s like I exerience it. So much joy, joy of life, it`s like I just feel so alive, when he`s around.
But unfortunately this connection is not totally free from a certain kind of physical attraction, at least for me.
Well, I accepted things as they are, and I guess a part of this physical and romantic attraction transformed into this very energetic vibration of pure joy.

Hmm, according to the magi-astrology we have very profound sexual linakges.

A grand trine, formed by sexual planets, Venus, Venus and Pluto (they see Venus as a sexual AND a romantic planet).
And a mystical triangle, formed by his Venus, his Pluto and my Mars (my mars is actually at the "power" point of that configuration); they call this one a "sexual dragon". ROFL
And on top of that there are additionally some more "sexual linkages", like Chiron - Juno-parallel, Venus-Pluto parallel, Mars-Pluto-parallel and some more. *grinning*
I guess in our case those aspects may be the reason that we can`t really ignore each other. Even he seems to sense that.
Why else should he take notice of me in the middle of a crowd?
But I guess that`s about it. Nothing more to it.

DD

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posted November 05, 2007 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'You're adorable.'

Jane, please spread the word!! :-))

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posted November 06, 2007 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anna - I've already started saving up for the billboard.

darkdreamer -
"they call this one a "sexual dragon". ROFL"
This made me spit out my drink. You owe me a new keyboard, missy! Please share what constitutes a mystical triangle. I'm curious if I have ever experienced a sexual dragon before. I know I could google it myself, but I have this mess to clean up that YOU caused.
Is this with one of the actors?
I love 5th house energy. I suppose most people adore it, but I think my Leo Moon makes me feel right at home in relationships where my 5th house is touched. It hasn't been that active in my sexual relationships, more so in my friendships.

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posted November 07, 2007 10:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

"This made me spit out my drink. You owe me a new keyboard, missy!"
How am I responsible, if you can`t hold your fluids, missy?

" Please share what constitutes a mystical triangle."
A mystical triangle is a triangle, where one side is a trine, one is a square and one is a quinkunx. The planet at the "powerpoint" is the one that makes a quinkunx and a square.

A sexual Dragon is something special.
There are two aspectfigures, which can form a sexual Dragon:
1. A Yod
2. A mystical triangle.

But the orb is important, too. The third planet must be within the degrees of the other aspect.
Let`s take the example of me and this singer:

He has a Venus-Pluto-trine natally.
His Venus: 04° Taurus
His pluto: 08° Virgo

Now, a planet which would make a mystical triangle with this trine would have to be in Sagittarius or Aquarius. AND the only degrees that count would be between 4° and 8°; so the only degrees that form a mystical triangle with the above trine are 4° - 8° Sagittarius and 4° - 8° Aquarius.
I have Mars on 5° Sagittarius and ASC on 7° Sagittarius, therefore those planets / points fulfil the requirements. And my Mars and ASC are actually on the "power-corner" of the triangle, because they are quinkunx (his Venus) and square (his Pluto).

But what does make it a sexual Dragon now?
WEll, to get a SExual Dragon there have to be sexual planets at the corners of the triangle.
Sexual planets according to Magi are: Venus, Mars, Pluto and Juno.
So, a mystical triangle of Venus, Pluto and Mars definitely is a SExual DRagon. hehe.

Here`s what they write on that one:

"Sexual Dragon Points are especially powerful in determining to whom we will be most sexually attracted and with whom we can have the very best sex."

" in Magi Astrology, we say that a Sexual Dragon has been formed – and the Dragon will consume the two persons who form it. The formation of a Sexual Dragon is a sign of virtually irresistible and insatiable sexual attraction."

"Having sex with someone with whom you form a Sexual Dragon is like nothing you have ever experienced. It is both mind blowing and mind boggling. But there is a downside. The downside is that you think you are in love, even when you are not in love because the sex is so fabulous you don't care if you are not really in love."


Strong stuff, no?

And we even share a Grand Trine of Venus, Venus and Pluto, which is called a "Super sexual linkage", just a tad weaker than the Sexual Dragon.
But it`s not a simple Grand Trine, no, it`s a Kite!
His Chiron is opposite his Pluto and sextile his Venus and my Venus, so Chiron becomes the focal planet of this configuration. (His Karma and my Isis, Osiris, POM, Pholus and Ceres are also involved)

Funny stuff to look at!


"Is this with one of the actors?"
Yes, and that`s the irony, he`s gay. That`s so typical; There`s a man I share such highly sexual linkages with, and he is not even interested in women. ROFL
But it`s true, we have 8 sexual linkages in geo and helio!

his Venus quinkunx my Mars
his Mars ocnjunct my Juno
his Pluto trine my Venus
his Venus parallel my Pluto
his Pluto contraparallel my Mars
his Juno parallel my Chiron

and in helio:
his Mars latitude my Venus
his Chiron contralatitude my Juno

(the only other man I share 8 sexual linkages with, is Orlando Bloom btw).


But that`s the thing about astrology. You can`t take it so literal.

HOwever, thinking a bit, I came to the conclusion that sexual energy or attraction actually is nothing other than life energy; so maybe all those sexual linkages are the reason for this feeling of vibrant energy and feeling alive, when I see him.

DD

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posted November 08, 2007 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dd -
"How am I responsible, if you can`t hold your fluids, missy?"
We'll let the judge decide. I have 2 semesters of law school under my belt. I'm pretty sure I could find some Torts cases that hold the funny person at least partially responsible for the damages her humor inflicts that she could've reasonably foreseen. Because really, there aren't enough frivolous lawsuits already.

Keyboard assassinations aside, you're a wonderful teacher! Thank you for that explanation. I did end up googling it, but it wasn't until your post that I learned about how the degrees had to be within the same range as the natal part of the configuration. Does Magi apply this rule to Grand Trines & all other aspect configurations?

I don't have a sexual dragon with my man. Tragic, I know. We do have some mystical triangles though.

"There`s a man I share such highly sexual linkages with, and he is not even interested in women. ROFL"
The universe really does have a twisted sense of humor.

"HOwever, thinking a bit, I came to the conclusion that sexual energy or attraction actually is nothing other than life energy; so maybe all those sexual linkages are the reason for this feeling of vibrant energy and feeling alive, when I see him."
Good point and I think that's how these sexual linkages manifest in relationships where a sexual relationship wouldn't happen. For example, I have a Venus-Mars conjunction with both my brother and my sister. But instead of having a "brother/sister with benefits" I have siblings who I have good chemistry with and, usually, get along with very well.

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posted November 09, 2007 09:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

"We'll let the judge decide. I have 2 semesters of law school under my belt."
Eek! A lawyer!
I should run and hide.


"you're a wonderful teacher!"
Thank you, ma`m!
I hope my pupils think that, too. But I somehow doubt it.


"Does Magi apply this rule to Grand Trines & all other aspect configurations?"
No, only for the sexual and romantic Dragons as far as I know.

" have some mystical triangles though."
Good enough! Is one of those formed by Neptune, Venus and Chiron? Then you would have a romantic dragon, which apparently is the sign of love (instead of sex).


" The universe really does have a twisted sense of humor."
Yeah, and why do those jokes go always on me?

DD

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posted November 12, 2007 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Eek! A lawyer!
I should run and hide."
No, come back! Law school was merely a youthful indiscretion. I saw the light & took Joseph Campbell's advice to follow my bliss...which 8th Moon astutely guessed is being a cover model for romance novels.

I'm so jealous of your students.

No, our mystical triangles don't involve that set of bodies. No dragons for me to slay and play with.

Thanks again for the info. I love good teachers.

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