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writesomething
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posted November 01, 2007 10:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its funny how you guys are judging so harshly of his chart considering that it has the same chart and year as the famous astrologer liz greene, she must be a lying wh-re as well.


youre right im going to justify it anyway i can cause i want to. you cant help the way you feel..either people move you or they dont, and the fact most people dont(move me) makes me want to follow that feeling when i find it.

i dont think he sleeps around a lot, just not my general feeling, but i do think once he has the meetingof the minds with a woman, and hes attracted, its hard for him to resist her. if i thought he was a wh-re, id stay away...thats not my feeling...

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Happy Dragon
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posted November 01, 2007 10:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
about 7th post down .. he's 60 ..
~ http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/002354-2.html ~
kf's should be lucky to have his looks by the time they get to his age ..

( edited off that other link ..
( in retrospect i think it was for gay guys

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AcousticGod
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posted November 01, 2007 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand the fascination, but I still think you'll get burned, especially if you put a lot into this.

He is attracted to Mercury (Gemini on the DC), but probably overall more attracted to air (Gemini DC plus Venus in Libra). You've got both being a Virgo with Aquarius rising. He's got zero water, so he doesn't connect in with emotion well. This helps him maintain his detached stance, which your Aquarian nature might be tapping in to.

It would be fascinating to watch how this plays out.

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writesomething
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posted November 01, 2007 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I know his first wife was a virgo with gemini moon. His current wife is a pisces with leo rising, taurus venus. I see the lack of water but he does have moon conj ascendant, which helps a lot with emotional issues.

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Temperance
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posted November 01, 2007 04:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I normally don't reply to stuff like this, because you really don't need astrology to determine how this situation will end, and it is a very sad state of affairs to have to write all this out in the 21st Century. But "I'm in an open marriage" is one of the oldest lines in the book bar none. It ranks way up there with "My wife doesn't understand me", or "I'm in the process of getting a divorce, but...", or "We're only still together for the sake of the children", or even "The dog ate my divorce papers." And any woman that is just plain stupid enough to believe a line like that in this day and age....I just don't know. Words fail me (for once).

And it is also a very sad state of affairs to have to explain why infidelity is baaaad juju pure & simple. In other words if you screw around with a married man (or woman), you got karma, baby. One would think that the concept of fidelity would be self evident by now, both in our day & age, but also by the time one is old enough to hump it.

I don't know the original poster from Eve, and I don't know whether she is really that naive and gullible, suffering from excruciatingly low self esteem, just plain delusional, a die hard narcissist, or all of the above. But if I had to pick judging from her posts in this thread, I'd go for someone lacking any kind of self esteem whatsoever combined with delusions of grandeur if she really thinks some married man is going to want to sleep with her "for love" because their charts say so. Seriously, think about that, how completely INSANE that sounds. No woman (and here I mean grown woman, not an adolescent trapped in never never land), no woman with even one modicum of dignity and self respect would entertain a thought like that to begin with, much less allow herself to be put into a situation like that in real life. And besides, does she really think this guy is going to want any more to do with her once he gets a hint of her line of thought? Once he gets to know her a little, given her posts, it'll be interesting to see how "unavailable" he'll suddenly become.

And given her line of reasoning, she'll come back with something akin to "He's not really like that. He's special. You just don't understand. It's just that his wife doesn't want to sleep with him anymore. etc etc etc.", all of which reinforces the sense of the adolescent lacking in self esteem combined with that nasty streak of narcissism. Because deep down since he's soooo special, betcha she's thinking that if she can get him to go to bed with her, or maybe even get him to leave his wife for her (because after all they're soulmates, right?), why that would make HER even MORE special, which reinforces all those delusions of grandeur combined with that convenient way of avoiding intimacy.

I've avoided bringing astrology into this so far, because this is one of those situations where it's really not that necessary. My advice to the original poster would be to forego whatever God's gift to the human race's chart says and seek professional help to work on her own issues involving intimacy and self respect. You can have the single most gorgeous synastry with Charles Manson but that doesn't make him your soul mate, and no other relationship is going to work until those issues within the self are resolved.

That said, since this is an astrology forum and the guy's chart has been posted, sure enough he's got no water, a 12th house moon conjuncting the South Node in Sagittarius, opposing Uranus in Gemini on the Descendant, Moon squaring 9th house afflicted Sun in Virgo, both luminaries semi-squaring an afflicted Venus conjunct Jupiter in Libra, which is trined by that 7th house Uranus for that special knack for attracting those suckers that are unfortunately born every minute, each one all the prettier with perkier ******* . In fact I've got someone else's chart in front of me that eerily parallels the OP's dreamboat. In this instance this particular individual suffered from a crippling addiction to sex which in the end destroyed him. His addiction cost him his career, his affluence, his health, destroyed every relationship he was ever in, his family, friends, and ultimately his own life. And the really sad thing is that half a century later the repercussions of this guy's addiction are still very much evident, like a legacy that gets passed down from generation to generation. And to me, that is just as sad as the endless numbers of women who feminism has seemingly failed, the original poster included.

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Mama Mia
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posted November 01, 2007 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. Any one for dessert...

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AcousticGod
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posted November 01, 2007 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what makes a no-water person so sexual? Is that an attempt to tap into emotions/something watery, too? Or is it something far removed from physicality, like an insatiable intellectual curiosity? Maybe the thrill of the hunt, the testing of one's charming ways?

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Temperance
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posted November 01, 2007 05:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found this on another message board in a discussion about Paul McCartney's now ex wife & gold diggers in general & I thought I'd post it here. It's supposed to have been originally posted on Craigslist & I think both gal's question & the guy's response sums up the situation nicely for all intersted parties.

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What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I’m articulate and classy. I’m not from New York . I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think I’m overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won’t get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What’s the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I’m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.

THE ANSWER

Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.

Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here’s how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity…in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold…hence the rub…marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense to “buy you” (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as “articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful” as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way. Classic “pump and dump.”

I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 01, 2007 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've seen that woman's ad before, but never the response.

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Temperance
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posted November 01, 2007 06:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back to astrology, I don't know what it is about lack of water people & sexuality. Marlene Dietrich is the standout example of the siren having nothing in water signs. The guy whose chart I mentioned earlier had a lack of water too (although the time of birth is unknown, so I would suppose having the Asc. or MC in a water sign could make up for that a bit) and I really think that his addiction to sex was a means to compensate for an emptiness inside, or a fear of intimacy, or as a result of being completely out of touch with his emotions. He had come from a priviledged family where evidently the parents lived in one place & the children & servants lived in another. And from what I gather he was a genuinely nice person...provided you didn't get too close to him emotionally.

But I think sex (or any other) addiction would be an exteme manifestation of that longing. I've read that those who lack elements in their charts tend to attract people, places, & things heavy in the missing element to make up for it. I also think it would depend on the amount of other elements in their chart to see how they could compensate for that, in this case how much air ("an insatiable intellectual curiosity"), fire ("the thrill of the hunt"), or earth ("the testing of one's charming ways") to make up for a lack of water ("tapping into emotions").

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AcousticGod
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posted November 01, 2007 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only have one planet in water myself: Mars in Scorpio. I don't know if a singleton saves you from being devoid of that energy or not.

That guy does have 4 planets in water houses.

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Temperance
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posted November 01, 2007 06:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I saw that 8th house Pluto too. Ditto the afflicted 12 house Moon conjunct South Node in Sagittarius, although it does trine (a somewhat afflicted) Saturn in the 8th as well. Who knows.

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