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ScrpnBliss
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posted November 25, 2007 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met a guy at a social event and had a fun time talking to him most of the night. We have run into each other at a few other social events and spent a lot of time talking and laughing. But there was no follow-up w/ him. No, "hey we should hang out sometime." I know he's single and he's said that he thinks I'm attractive and fun to hang out with. So I thought what gives? I was talking to a friend who said that I should ask him out if he doesn't ask me out. But something just kept me from doing it. I had a sense that once I opened the can of worms it wouldn't be a light and fun relationship.. Can't explain it really, but I hesitated.

The feeling felt similar to the one I had in the early stages of getting to know my most recent ex-bf who I had Saturn contacts with. So I thought to look at the synastry contacts between me and this new guy and I found a few Saturn aspects, namely my saturn opposite his sun and his saturn conjunct my sun.

What the heck?? Am I just drawn to people I have "difficult" contacts with, or am I supposed to be learning something important with these people?

Its hard to say if we'll even date at this point since we're both being very hesitant.. But I'm just curious if other people have ever had a string of relationships w/ Saturn overtones/undertones and what their experiences were...


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posted November 25, 2007 09:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
saturn is so intriguing to me. i think a relationship is well worth it if it is heavy on the saturn (not to generalize, but i mean as opposed to not having many saturn contacts). i think it's difficult and challenging but the work you do brings much more reward. and i think the saturn placements bring a respectful and sober enthusiasm (not quite the word i want, but like intention and loyalty and involvement) for the work itself.

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ScrpnBliss
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posted November 25, 2007 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. Good point heart cakes. I didn't think of it that way. But I don't regret my relationship with my ex-boyfriend one bit. We learned so much about ourselves through the relationship and remain good friends after breaking up.

I originally thought Saturn contacts meant "long-lasting" relationships i.e. marriage. But maybe not so much?

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posted November 25, 2007 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since you stayed friends - it is still lasting.

It doesn't have to mean marriage.. but it is usually a bond that the people won't break.

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posted November 25, 2007 10:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scrpn, what aspects between Saturn?
Have you read this...http://www.throughnightsfire.com/Compatibility.html

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ScrpnBliss
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posted November 26, 2007 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sexual relationship in a past life eh? (Interesting site BLKFox!)

The Saturn aspects for my ex-bf are:

My..................His
Saturn opposition Venus
Saturn opposition Mars
Saturn square Jupiter
Saturn sextile Saturn
Saturn sextile North node
Saturn opposition Chiron
Saturn trine Pallas
Saturn opposition Juno

I don't even know what a lot of those mean..

For the guy I recently met:

My....................His
Sun conjunction Saturn
Saturn opposition Sun
Saturn sextile Jupiter
Saturn conjunction Saturn
Saturn trine Lilith
Saturn trine Pallas
Saturn trine Vesta

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posted November 26, 2007 12:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scrp, Is it possible that you're afraid???

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posted November 26, 2007 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha! BLKFox.. Hm afraid? 1.) Yes 2.) I'm also weary. I just got out of a relationship and I feel very comfortable being single right now. I think this new guy got out of a relationship recently as well. Moreover, he's not as mature as I am. We are around the same age but I dont know.. guys lag behind a bit..

But as happy as I am single, something about him just makes me drawn to him. But he's not chasing either... despite all of his compliments to me. Maybe we both aren't ready? Timing is everything!

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posted November 26, 2007 12:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scrp...
I really enjoy fishing....I like casting my line & waiting patiently for the fish to come...as exciting as it is when the fish does come, I know the worst thing I could do is "yank" the line....instead, I let out more slack and provide the fish with the illusion of freedom. Once it is obvious the fish has played enough...I bring him(or)her in....end of story.

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posted November 26, 2007 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HAHA! BLKFox are you a Scorpio? That's so funny. The fishing analogy best describes my take on courtship as well! Which is why I guess I'm OK w/ things going slow at the moment. No yanking! Just patient sitting. It's a win-win situation really. It's just hard not to think of him so much.. As a Scorpio I obsess.. which is a pain when I'm not obsessing about something productive!

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posted November 26, 2007 01:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So saturn is the fearful one? why do I have a hard time believing that? It feels more like Saturn finds it easy to be critical and cold because they know the other is willing to stick it out, and they saturn are immature and coldhearted. altough you wouldnt assume saturn would be immature, thats my perception.
http://www.throughnightsfire.com/Compatibility.html

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posted November 26, 2007 04:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been in a more than normal relationship with a man. My Saturn conjunct his Sun and his Saturn square my Sun. We criticized each other for being cold, uncaring, unaffectionate, rude,... and we always feel upset about each other. But we feel intense about each other and really miss each other when we don't meet. Maybe also because of these Saturn aspects, we never explicitly or directly say any real sweet things (like "I love you" or "I miss you",...) to each other.

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posted November 26, 2007 10:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scrp, this is me...

Sun/Libra (12 house),Moon/Capricorn; Libra Ascendant; Venus in Scorpio; Mercury/Libra; Mars&Pluto/Leo; Saturn in Virgo; Uranus in Cancer; Jupiter in Capricorn

My Capricorn Mother taught me to enjoy storytelling as a means of getting the point across.--also, we're Southerners

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posted November 26, 2007 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh! I love Southern manners and upbringing! A lot of my southern friends represent the epitome of femininity. I on the other hand was raised as a loud Yankee! Hehe. That's OK though, I'm still learning!

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posted November 26, 2007 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iam - was the courtship easy? (e.g. you met and it flowed into a relationship?) Supposedly Saturn contacts make courtship a rocky process..

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posted November 26, 2007 04:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I'm just curious if other people have ever had a string of relationships w/ Saturn overtones/undertones and what their experiences were...

I haven't had a string of relationships w/ Saturn overtones/undertones but one comes clearly to mind.

I have Saturn in Cancer and it was conjunct (within 2 degrees) to an ex's Sun & Saturn, as well as a wider degree to his Mercury.

We had worse fights than anyone I've ever been with in my life! We would even physically fight! No one else can make me as angry as he does even when he isn't doing anything.

At the same time, we're probably closest to what the other wants in a relationship (we both have Venus in Virgo (conjunct within 1 degree) and trine moons - me Aries him Sag. No matter what we did, we could NOT get along, but I don't think either one of us holds a grudge.

We tried a couple of times to make it work and he always wants to try again, but I just can't. We have a hard time being friends because when we get too friendly he starts sending out wedding invitations.

I hope your situation works out for the best ScrpnBliss.

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ScrpnBliss
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posted November 26, 2007 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"because when we get too friendly he starts sending out wedding invitations."

I laughed pretty hard at that one Virgo/Aries75. Do you regret the relationship at all? Do you think you grew a lot from it?

Physical fights huh? Crazy!

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posted November 26, 2007 05:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't regret the relationship at all.

If anything I regret that we just don't "work." I know he's still "in love" with me, but I love him more like a brother. So I feel kinda bad that I can't be with him in the way that he wants because I'd like to see him happy.

I feel like I did grow. I was able to cherish the good times we had without allowing them to be overshadowed by the bad which I used to have a problem with. If I broke up with someone I would hold a grudge the size of Kansas. So, yeah. I grew a little. lol I also learned that sometimes it doesn't work out no matter how much you love each other and are willing to try. Some things are meant to be and some aren't.

But you'll never know if you don't try!

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posted November 26, 2007 07:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So can l assume that Sun/saturn conjunct makes for a verbally aggressive relationship or just one that is more staid and clinical?

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posted November 26, 2007 07:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well as far as i remember, liz greene's basic take on sun-saturn contacts is that the saturn person sees the sun person as dynamic full of life and warmth and may fall into difficulty due to feelings of inadequacy or something like that. and the sun person sees the saturn person as stable and grounding and can help the saturn person through their fears.. i guess the flip side would be criticism and coldness from saturn and too much energy in some way or another from the sun..?

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posted November 26, 2007 10:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heart cakes, from what i have read from various sources, that is my interpretation as well. I also currently have a LOT of heavy saturn aspects with a guy whom im kind of in love with, my sun conjuncts his saturn and his sun squares my saturn. He is protective of me staying the way that i am, if i go somewhere new or experience something new he is usually very weary and critical. Sometimes he gets really angry and overly critcal hurting my feelings, which he tries to do the majority of the time. I travel out of the country sometimes for short periods of time and he becomes soo angry when i leave; always telling why i shouldn't be there. I've known since the beginning that he hides the fact that he feels inqdequate to me. All I try to do is make him happy; trying to help him sort out his emotional issues (he is a cappy moon...)but he just feels like i'm taking over his role as "parent" and "the wise one" and proceeds to criticize some action of mine.

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posted November 26, 2007 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn contacts, from my experience and my research, usually have karmic implications and usually an age difference where as the Saturn individual may act as the "father figure" to the personal planet individual, and quite often is a bit older.

Also, the personal planet individual can feel quite under the thumb of the Saturn indivdual.

Long lasting??? Well, yes, but this is a relative term, since soul and karmic implications go beyond time and space, and, hence lifetimes...

Have this contact with a very special individual in my life. I know, absolutely, we have been "together" in some form or fashion forever and will be.....forever.....

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posted November 26, 2007 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScrpnBliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. do mutual aspects complicate things then? It seems that it would go both ways in terms of "parenting."

For a while my ex felt "inadequate" compared to me but he's finally making strides in his career and I think he doesn't feel as bad as he used to.

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posted November 26, 2007 11:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hippi,
You are Sooooooo DOWN with this Saturn stuff..I actually have a Venus/Saturn opposition going with someone and it is intense! The Saturn in Taurus person is 7 years older than me...I have Venus in Scorpio.
The attraction is intense and disconcerting....I just KNOW if I relaxed for a moment, I'd end up feeling as though I am being help captive by this person.

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posted November 27, 2007 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scrpn

I do not think the contacts complicate things, tho I do not think in those terms anyway, with 3 fixed tsquares in my natal I am quite used to complications in life and embrace each and everyone as a learning potential!

Saturn has been long known as the Lord of Karma and if this is true, why not embrace a complex Saturn contact for it's karmic implications as well and correct the karma while you can?

I have not expereienced nor read that there is a mutual parenting thing going on. The Saturn individual is usually the one acting like the parent.

*had to come back and edit this, after a few moments of contemplation....my friend and I who have a Saturn contact, his Merc conj my Saturn and he is 11 yrs my senior, and he tends to act like a parent at times, tho I call him out on it! So maybe it is reciporicle*

Blk

AND, alot of times, a relationship with a signifigant age difference is started during a Saturn transit of one or another. I know this was true for me!

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