posted December 12, 2007 11:44 AM              

i slept horribly again too, as did my daughter. woke up way too early!

had a pivotal conversation with long distance not yet boyfriend, though.

so, since the planets are moving energy, and the phenomenon of observing their relation to one another in terms of movement denoting how the energies interplay has been observed, can we assume that jupiter is sweeping through to give a happy boost to pluto and is causing some sort of DEEPENING of optimism, or new direction, kinda vibe? which, for many of us, is difficult and oh so pluto flavoured?

i'm just wondering cuz i feel like i'm being asked to totally let go of the old way and purge, and that the NEW way has to be optimism! like i'm thinking, maybe however the transit is effecting us, we can take a cue from jupiter and whatever it is that we are supposed to change or purge, whatever is being activated for us, is something we are supposed to have faith about instead and stop being so heavy..?

posted December 12, 2007 12:00 PM              

hope everyone has a GREAT day heavy on the jupiter!

posted December 12, 2007 12:07 PM            

Earlier on this thread I wondered if the Federal Reserve interest rate announcement on Dec 11th would be affected by the Jupiter /Pluto conjunction.

Well, it seems the rate reduction was not as generous as most were hoping for causing an expansive move down in the stock market.
However, today the Fed announced it will work with central banks around the world to help ease the global credit crisis.

posted December 12, 2007 04:48 PM              

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=eiAicv-ev5I

Also I find it interesting that this conjunction with the GC happens only once every 3000 years, and that the Led Zeppelin tickets were selling for up to $3000. *ding ding ding*

posted December 12, 2007 06:19 PM              

EVERYTHING went wrong

I had Pluto/Jupiter conjunct exact my MC...

h o r r i b l e :P

posted December 12, 2007 06:36 PM            

Jupiter crossing along with it might not bring all the optimism with it, it might expand the pressures that are already sooo crushing.

Please don't get me wrong, it's not my intention to scare anyone, but it might be more to the point to learn about Pluto-ASC relationships at the time.

If some of you are having power struggles in your life, that definitely fits. Heartcakes mentioned a PIVOTAL conversation with someone she's in relationship with. Hopefully Jupiter adds optimism and humor to that situation.

The health issues people are mentioning, remember that your 1st House and 12th Houses are your health centers - even more so than the 6th House. Headaches and exhaustion were mentioned here, well the nature of Pluto is to break things down for re-building. It's very interesting that holistic remedies and meditation has been mentioned also.

But just a reminder that the Pluto transit to important points in your chart is the very first focus. The Jupiter influence can go either way, expanding optimism or expanding the pressure. Here are some important keywords that I feel really explains the energy of the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction. They are credited to www.astrologyofaction.com

AUTHENTIC EXPANSION

A NEW "SOUL ADVENTURE"

BIRTH OF A POWERFUL PHILOSOPHY OF LIFE

PASSIONATE OPTIMISM

DEEP WISDOM

EMERGENCE OF PRIMAL FAITH

TRANSFORMATIVE RELIGIOUS FEELINGS

MERGING OF "THE BIG MINDS"

PROSPERITY THROUGH RITUALS

A HEALING GROWTH OPPORTUNITY

THE PSYCHOLOGY OF PERCEPTION

CULTURAL OPTIMISM

INTENSE NEED FOR LEVITY, ESPECIALLY REGARDING RELIGIOUS DIFFERENCES

PRESSURE TO CREATE A NEW FRAMEWORK FOR SEEING LIFE

EXPANDING INTENSITY

MAGNIFIED CREATIVITY

REGENERATING FAITH

AN UNDERCURRENT OF OPTIMISM

OR DEATH AND REBIRTH OF OPTIMISM

He seems to have captured it amazingly.

Geocosmic Valentine

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"Everybody is a star!"

posted December 12, 2007 06:42 PM              

i am personally feeling THRILLED right now. i have also had this weird, odd heavy sensation on my body like i just have NOT had energy to do anything, which is weird since i'm usually VERY energetic.. and that has slowly mellowed me out and now i feel much more grounded and connected to my environment somehow and less frantic/neurotic. pluto has been transiting my venus (soon to be exact) on and off for about a year i guess and now i am getting a sense of how to understand all the super intense feelings!

that is so cool about the debt reduction too..

gemini lover, congratulations on pluto and jupiter entering your first!!! this is a BIG DAY for you!

oh my god, i think i already told you, but pluto in the first, versus the 12th, WHAT a difference!!! vastly vastly easier, i think! and pretty exciting too! congrats!

posted December 12, 2007 07:03 PM            

I'm so sorry you're having a difficult time. You deserve tremendous compassion. My highest suggestion for you is to go with the changes, they were meant to be. If you don't go with the changes when Pluto contacts your most sensitive points, ASC and MC, it can be quite painful as you are already discovering.

I suspect loss of a job or heavy employment issues, possibly father or parental issues. Whatever they are, BE GENTLE WITH YOURSELF! Whatever changes are happening, they are pivotal to your life moving on. Pluto can be very harsh and can also take prisoners, Pluto is the kidnapper of the zodiac, he must control EVERYTHING, he is the mob boss, so be careful, don't defy him in anyway. You are in my prayers and once again, be gentle with yourself.

Geocosmic Valentine

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"Everybody is a star!"

posted December 12, 2007 11:59 PM            

Stressful Pluto transits to the Moon can be very difficult and if Jupiter expanded that difficult energy for her instead of easing it up, then I can understand that she had an absolutely awful day, but hopefully those two Jupiters will give her some relief soon.

Hi GeminiLover75,

I hope you still have your rollercoaster seatbelt on as Pluto is transiting over your Ascendant. You've probably been feeling this pressure off an on for the greater part of of 2 years. That pesky little planet reminds me of Yoda. He's so small, but you REALLY DON'T WANT TO TANGLE WITH THAT GUY!!! I think you understand me, he's got a thorough knowledge of "The Force" and he's not afraid to use it.

Have you made any geographic relocations within the last year and a half or two years? Usually when Pluto crosses the Ascendant, it usually accompanies a move of some sort. Especially you Sagittarian Ascendants because Sagittarius rules long distance travel and internationalism, so Pluto could make you feel like moving far away. Did this happen or is it in the works?

Geocosmic Valentine

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"Everybody is a star!"

posted December 13, 2007 12:14 AM            

Thank you!

posted December 13, 2007 12:55 AM            

I think if you just cut and paste what you just wrote, cut it from here and paste it into his brain, that should do the trick. And you're right about your health.

YOUR HEALTH ALWAYS COMES FIRST! Sorry to yell at you, but you are right about being pressured into doing somethings you really don't want to do. I feel for you because I've had back issues for the first time in my life and I don't want to do anything but go to work and come home at night. I love the weekends because I don't have to go anywhere I don't want to go.

Pluto crossing your Ascendant also affects relationships because Pluto is opposing your Descendant and 7th house, so it makes all the sense in the world that it is your significant other who is adding pressure to your life.

YOUR HEALTH ALWAYS COMES FIRST!!

Oops, I yelled again, but I meant it. You should continue your physical therapy, it fits into that theme of Pluto destroying things to rebuild them. You are rebuilding your back, your ultimate support system.

And now I'm falling asleep on the keyboard.

faiyafhjkfaiubeariywn389na - oops my head just fell on the keyboard. Goodnight all.

Geocosmic Sleepyhead

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"Everybody is a star!"

posted December 13, 2007 01:30 AM              

Sorry to hear you've been having back problems too - this is my first real major back problem and it's been so upsetting the past six months. It really does affect everything you do day-to-day.