posted January 20, 2008 06:29 PM              

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Are you still with this person? If so, you know tSat will be hitting that stellium in the next few years. I don't know about you, but I'm scared!

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posted January 20, 2008 06:39 PM              

It probably means nothing though. What happens to composite charts when the relationship dies?

posted January 20, 2008 06:45 PM              

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Because he's a lunatic

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haha why is he a lunatic?

yeah it seems very interesting..also my natal vertex conj the transiting sun..and Tvenus conj his vertex...and conj his natal pluto/and conj saturn.

posted January 20, 2008 06:49 PM              

He's very vindictive. I hope the tSat doesn't mean he'll do something, but I can't worry about that.

posted January 20, 2008 06:54 PM              

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The ways he's a lunatic are too many and would take too long to get into.

He's very vindictive. I hope the tSat doesn't mean he'll do something, but I can't worry about that.

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posted January 20, 2008 07:08 PM              

You asked why I was scared of tSaturn going over that stellium in the 8th.

posted January 20, 2008 07:29 PM              

haha...No, he's just a lunatic in general. I'm talking about why I'm afraid of Tsaturn going over my composite chart 8th house stellium with him. It's not because tSat over a stellium is bad per se, but because he's still carrying a vendetta against me and I wonder if tSat will set something off in him.

PS - Are you confused because you're forgetting I have a composite with someone with a stellium in the 8th and virgo on the cusp, too?

I'm sure your guy is sane. You said you have planets in the 12th in your synastry....? That is a double edged sword (in my experience). You have a great bond but someone usually gives more to the relationship. Unfortunately, you can't tell by the synastry who will give more or who will get hurt, but I *think* the person who receives the planets gets more of its effect.

posted January 20, 2008 07:41 PM              

Yeah, I know you don't have 12th house stuff with him

posted January 20, 2008 07:46 PM              

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(what would you make of moon in the other's 12th in synastry?)

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thanks for the thoughts on our composite!! i really appreciate them. and i never realized venus was in its own sign and house. that seems lovely. (we also both have venus in eachothers' seventh houses in synastry.)

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You're welcome.

It is lovely! It's also nice that your venuses fall into each other's 7th. They're dignified by house.

posted January 20, 2008 07:59 PM            

A's Moon in B's Twelfth House.

Because this combination makes for a strong emotional and intuitive link, the natives will be intensely aware of each other's moods and feelings. On the positive side, this will make for sympathetic understanding,empathy,and mutual compassion. However, if the overall horoscopic comparison is unfavorable and if the Moon is afflicted, the natives may stimulate each other's subconscious self-deceptions and hangups. There can be a psychic link between them which can influence their attitudes toward each other through a process of subconscious telepathy. They have a karmic relationship in their family or financial affairs. The moon individual can stimulate the deep-seated subconscious memory of the Twelfth House individual,but whether this is positive or negative depends upon the overall comparison. The Twelfth individual can awaken the Moon individual to a deeper level of intuitive awareness. Deception and dishonesty in feelings and attitudes should be avoided at all costs in these relationships.

My Moon in Pisces is in my girlfriend's 12th house, trining her Moon-Saturn in Scorpio in 7th/8th.

She and I have a very deep,sensitive,intuitive,empathetic,emotional connection that is very karmic.

Also her stationary Neptune is in my 4th house.

So we have a mutual house reception synastry connection.
Neptune rules 12th house and Moon rules 4th house.

posted January 20, 2008 08:00 PM              

yeah i sort of wonder if the moon person sort of has emotional perception into the 12th person, into their hidden dimensions and that might confuse (12th) the moon person to the point where they don't know quite what they feel, or it might be scary or something.

posted January 20, 2008 08:07 PM              

but it is also VERY beautiful too cuz when we are together we are just so AWARE of one another, in very deep ways. i've never had it with anyone else like that. but again, could be other factors as well.

sorry for veering this thread!!

posted January 20, 2008 08:19 PM              

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writesomething,

the impression i first got off your chart is that it is very focused. from the stellium and the clean, sharp aspects it makes. then i noticed rising is capricorn and stellium is in virgo. so that seems to carry that energy to me. like a very practical, direct energy, very focused but not showey or overdone. being in the 8th, possibly very sexual or just a very very deep bond that i am thinking may be unspoken in terms of, it doesn't need to be spoken, but also because of its earthiness from virgo..

i still don't know what to make of some aspects, like the squares to jupiter. i don't think that means closed off from the expansiveness.. but since it's touching it must mean some kind of expansiveness.. maybe jupiter makes you see some things you don't want to see that you would rather keep hidden or unspoken.. or you say things out of context at times or too bluntly.. um.. i dunno. sorry, i shouldn't go too far with that since i *really* don't know!!

anyway, it feels dynamic and strong to me but not without its challenges (though i'm not sure i can identify them!). possibly there is some difficulty accessing emotions in some ways despite the 8th house stellium, since it *is* in virgo after all and moon is in aquarius.

did i get any of it right?

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that was pretty good.

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hey writesomething, did any of the stuff i said about your composite resonate? just curious. some day i wanna go pro and right now due to finances, intuitive developement proceeds actual studying.. so i'm just curious if any of it was close..

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posted January 20, 2008 09:42 PM            

My cousin/family friend (he's not really my cousin though, our moms are just really good friends..Known him since I was little.) 's Moon falls into my 12 house.

I can REALLY see what you said about this, heart cakes, OMG. You said

"yeah i sort of wonder if the moon person sort of has emotional perception into the 12th person, into their hidden dimensions and that might confuse (12th) the moon person to the point where they don't know quite what they feel, or it might be scary or something.

i wonder what effect this would have on the 12th house person. perhaps uncomfortable and also confusing, perhaps like the other person knows them very well, so very intimate. i guess it would depend on a lot of things.."

You also said

"we are very aware of eachothers' feelings and i think in our situation he is overwhelmed and uncomfortable about it cuz he is such a sensitive person already but tries to hide his feelings in general.
but it is also VERY beautiful too cuz when we are together we are just so AWARE of one another, in very deep ways. i've never had it with anyone else like that. but again, could be other factors as well."

I can verify both as true for me and this person, and I think that he is very AWARE of my feelings as well....yet I don't think he underSTANDS them. He SEES what I'm feeling, but that doesn't mean he gets WHY. I have met a lot of people who say they don't even notice how I'm feeling (I have social anxiety disorder) around them. But as I recently got worse, when I talked to him not too long ago for the first time, right when I made eye contact with him he acted strangely right away...his expresson SHOWED that he saw something very awkward about how I was acting...he even averted his eyes like he felt so uncomfortable. Yet, many other people can't even tell I feel anything strange. Another time very soon after that, but on a different day, I was also actnig strangely, and he was there with me and another guy who is very friendly, and I could swear he was shaking. I have no idea WHy, though.. I think maybe it's because MY shakiness (inside--not showing it externally, though) makes HIM shaky. (because of this whole his moon in my 12 thing.)

In reply to what writesomething said, "felt like I had to tippytoe around my words." I think this might be true for him, too. I think he has a hard time acting rudely or in an inconsiderate manner with me, when he seems to act this way easily sometimes with others. Around me he seems uber sweet, very compassionate and measured (not restrained, just tacful) in his actions and just very sweet overall. It is true that one day I sort of snapped at him..I don't know why I did that, really, I think it was because I was mad that he could sense my feelings so well, lol, and well, I was expecting him to snap right back at me, but no, he looked down and replied in the sweetest most "ok, I'm sorry... let's compromise" tone you could ever imagine. He seemed very nonassertive about it. That totally surprised me as I wouldn't imagine him doing that around...whoever. Anyone else. You know?

Well, here's our synastry and composite charts in case there's anything that should be pointed out to me in our charts. We have composite moon in the 12 house, what does this mean?? Also, His sun falls into my 8th and mine falls into his 11th. I want a deeper relatinoship with him, but he doesn't seem to really be up for that...
Ours is also, at least on MY part...a pretty romantic relationship. We have Composite Sun opposite neptune, uh-oh! And we have mutual moon trine neptune aspects. Another question, is moon trine/sextile saturn aspect bad? You know, because they are opposites?

What I was really wondering from our charts was how he might feel about me and see me. I see him as someone with whom I could form a potentially deep bond to, or at least would like to.

(I used to have a very big crush on him, like all throughout while I was growing up--from like Age 5 to 13 probably--but not anymore..that seems to have faded now.)

Here are our charts (Synastry first, Composite second)

OUR SYNASTRY CHART

OUR COMPOSITE CHART