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writesomething
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posted February 01, 2008 02:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay I was telling my friend about the gemini thing( http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016321.html ), and hes all "you know hes gay right?" im like what? wtf are you talking about? he says he thinks hes gay but in the closet....REALLY?
what do you guys think?
I can see the possiblity of homosexuality/bisexual because of the Gemini sun/venus....
I personally dont think hes gay! not at all..but maybe im missing something because i like him?

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted February 01, 2008 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun conjunct Venus in gem.. idk variety? is he bi or completley gay?


usually it comes through the moon affliction or venus afflictions.. moon square uranus sun venus conjunction oppostion neptune..


lol either way.. if he is gay then im sorry. if you were interested in him..

but then again you could always go on a quest to turn him straight lol..

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posted February 01, 2008 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm disinclined to speculate on this matter.

But I've been in a similar scenario (though there were no rumours, it was me working on my instincts). I decided to let him be, and assume he would tell when he was ready, if he felt the need. I thought it would be insensitive to probe.

Then I went and dated someone else, but stayed friends with this man.

I don't know if this will help any, but I think you are best off letting him know he has got a friend if he needs someone to talk to and leave it at that.

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posted February 01, 2008 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can not tell if someone is homosexual by looking at their astrological chart. Just like you can't look at an anonymous chart and tell whether it belongs to a male or a female or an animal or an event; or what race a person is.

Human sexuality is SUCH a complex matter just like human relationships are a complex matter. You really do your friend a dis-service and potential damage by trying to determine his sexuality or sexual desires in his chart.

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posted February 01, 2008 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And since when did Sun Conjunct Venus mean your homosexual/bi-sexual...I know quite a few guys with that placement, and they don't strike me of either of the two. What they are is handsome, which is what I hear ppl with Sun conjuct Venus does..For the women and men.

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posted February 01, 2008 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GeminiLover and I think that the singer Morrissey may have that Sun/Asc combo. He's always been rather sexually ambiguous.

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posted February 01, 2008 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One wonders how ^Gemini Person^ would react if they knew their natal chart had been posted on an astrological forum in an effort to determine sexual orientation.

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posted February 01, 2008 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is his profession?

Im curious because he has Uranus conjunct the MC in scorpio

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posted February 01, 2008 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mhax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe he has tendencies, he has all the aspects Mars and Venus in aspect with Uranus and Venus conjunction with the Sun. Maybe if you show the tradicional asteroids we can tell you more.

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posted February 01, 2008 02:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mamamias-Its not the Sun conj venus aspect that is the issue. Im thinking its gemini equation. Maybe bisexual.


Geo-Yes, I do think homosexuality can be seen in a chart.

Seeing- He owns his own business.

Node- I doubt he would care. He thinks astrology is BS.

acoustic- I love morrisey. thats really interesting info.

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posted February 01, 2008 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Node- I doubt he would care. He thinks astrology is BS."

He will definitely think more that astrology is BS if he knew that you were looking at his chart for homosexuality indicators.

hahahahaaha

I am in agreement with Geo.

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posted February 01, 2008 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wrote him an email asking if he was gay. I doubt he'll respond but Im seriously wondering at this point.

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posted February 01, 2008 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubted he would care either. The only people who get sensitive about people seeing their charts are people who are into astrology. And a Gemini would probably be into a debate over his sexuality as there's a good chance he debates it internally himself.

Gemini/Cap is the opposite of my Sun/Ascendant combo, which is why I think I related to Morrissey's music so well. In fact, right now in my car Hatful of Hollow (The Smiths) is in the CD player. He's still the easiest person for me to sing along with.

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posted February 01, 2008 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The guy is definitely ultrasensitive,romantic with Neptune opposing his Sun-Venus in Gemini 5th and trining his Moon-Mars in Leo in 7th. That could indicate being very artistic,creative,and self expressive too. Highly sensitive guys might get misconstrued as being gay by people that have narrow views of what men should be.
Sun-Venus in Gemini in 5th oppose Neptune in 11th can indicate possible confusion,illusion,misunderstandings,and/or deception in love,romance,and friendships.

Magi Society even said that Neptune is the most feminine planet. (rolls his eyes)


Another thing too..with Neptune in 11th oppose Sun-Venus in 5th there could be a possibility of confusing friendship feelings for romantic feelings and vice versa...whether he's doing the confusing or his friends,romantic partners.


There is a possibility of having false friends and relationship partners
due to possibility of being unrealistic and overly idealistic when choosing friends and partners.

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posted February 01, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Glaucus, that was amazing!!

I want to add only one more consideration. This man might not engage in sexual activity at all. People tend to forget about Neptune's powerful suppressive energies as well as energies of ego wipe-out and shame. With Neptune opposite his Venus which rules the 5th house of romantic sexuality, and his Sun which rules his 8th house of more sexuality, this could suggest that he is sexually suppressed and channels those energies into his creativity or his business.

I realize that he has a Moon-Mars conjunction which is a highly emotional and sexual aspect and it is in the 7th house, but I remind you to check out that conjunctions relationship to the Nodal Axis by square. I'd ask myself (or better yet, ask him) what does his mother have to do with his highly volatile emotional expression. Because his Nodal Axis is in the Scorpio-Taurus axis, it gives me a weird feeling about his mother's behavior toward him.

I also realize that Pluto trines his Sun-Venus conjunction perhaps lifting him out of the suppression at some point.

My point and Glaucus' point is that none of us can know which one of these scenarios belongs to this guy WITHOUT DISCLOSURE FROM "HIM". I don't mean for that to look like I'm yelling, just want to emphasize that. So I'm glad that Writesomething actually asked him.

These are all valid considerations, including his possibly being homosexual, but there are no sure fire formulas suggesting homosexuality in someone's chart. If there is a sure fire formula suggesting homosexuality, I'd like someone to also point out the sure fire signatures for HETEROSEXUALITY.

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posted February 01, 2008 04:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was actually adopted. He loves his adoptive mother a lot, and wants a relationship exactly like his parents. He idealizes their marriage. His first love relationship was with an Aries woman. His adoptive mother is an Aries...I thought that was interesting, to me I think he likes someone who reminds him of his mother(7th house/cancer).

I also realized he has CANCER SATURN on the 29th degree, meaning his emotional expression is extremely difficult for him to express. Also Capricorn rising doesnt help matters.

I probably also make him uncomfortable because the majority of my planets are in his 8th house, including my sun. He use to get mad and yell(funny way of course) about why he was talking about such emotional/deep issues. He use to tell me a lot of deep stuff.

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posted February 01, 2008 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's interesting, him telling you deep stuff and most of your planets being in his 8th house of...THE DEEP. Lol!! I'm assuming those planets of yours are in Virgo because of the communication energy. But then again (and I'm just assuming again) if those planets are in Virgo, then there could be a virginal feeling or energy infused into his 8th house from you.

Does his business have anything to do with modern art and/or writing, communicating, some kind of art in general? Something of a dramatic and applause gaining nature?

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Does his business have anything to do with modern art and/or writing, communicating, some kind of art in general? Something of a dramatic and applause gaining nature?

nope. its actually a pretty competitive, boring, typical field. Insurance.

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posted February 01, 2008 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to be funny or morbid (well, maybe it is a little) does he sell Death & Dismemberment insurance? I'm just going by his Scorpio MC. And now I see Saturn exactly squaring that MC. Saturn can be death or just the rock of security, solid insurance. Remember those "Prudential" commercials? They'd show that "mountain" of security? For some reason I can't stop looking at his chart.

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posted February 01, 2008 04:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He sells health insurance. Although I can see why you thought that. His 6th house is Gemini, which is in essence "the salesman". Hes very charming, and very intelligent.

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Another thread in which I feel I should post my other favorite astrology article ever:

“The Astrology of Homophobia,” by Peter Clamp.

http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/PClampHomophobia.html

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posted February 02, 2008 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini of Fifth house.. he is a Gay.. and watch his childhood. he would have been more than happy to give hugs to his male friends.

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posted February 02, 2008 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His 5th house is Taurus and it's not even considered to be intercepted just because Gemini is part of it.

Gemini is his 6th house.

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posted February 02, 2008 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

That Astrology of Homophobia is a great article.

He made great points.

There has been discussion about homosexuality indicators in Astrology group on tribenet,and so I pasted the url of that article there.

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posted February 02, 2008 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's not an historian, I wouldn't have thought. 1928 Germany isn't the first place I'd go looking for a balanced view of this issue.

Though the 70s weren't that long ago attitudes have changed radically and it is only reasonable to expect opinions in print to reflect this change.

Labelling Lilly as a sexist would be silly.

The logical side is good though. No-one can pinpoint an aspect that shows someone is straight or gay.

Though I think the point of the original post was that she is trying to find out if this man's sexual orientation is the reason he isn't responding to her advances. (?)

Maybe be a synastry chart would be more useful, in the sense that it that might show if there is overall general compatability or not.

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