posted February 17, 2008 01:54 PM              

I have the book "when will you marry" by Rose Murray?? and there are several indicators pointing to good venus and mars timing... and other info. but I was wondering if anyone here who has already met their soulmate can tell us what astrological aspect occured when they first met their special someone.I'm really interested in people who have long term commitments longer than 8 years.

posted February 17, 2008 11:51 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted February 18, 2008 12:01 AM            

North and South Nodes of Venus and their aspects

posted February 18, 2008 08:19 AM            

Here is an excellent link to an LL thread where DarkDreamer explains the research of someone named Paul Westran. (She has his book.)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015877.html
http://www.positiveastrology.com/Articles/article-004.asp

I have also looked into some of his ideas, and he seems to have backed it up with quite a bit of research.

You can see if your progressions match with another person's. He looks at this as an indication as to whether the "climate" is right for a relationship to begin. Then he looks to see if the same planets have a connection (trine, conjunction, opposition) in the natals to check the potential of it being a lasting relationship.

I don't think there's a way to tell only by looking at your own natal if love will arrive though. AND, of course, even if his research is 100% spot on and shows that these aspects were present for every couple on earth when they got together, it doesn't mean that if you have them with someone that it HAS to happen. Just one more piece of the puzzle.

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posted February 18, 2008 10:23 AM              

1. My bestest uncle - Virgo Moon
2. First cousin - Venus in Virgo
3. A co-worker soon come best friend, who oddly reminded me of bestest uncle - Sun in Virgo
4. Some internet dude.

About me:

Gemini w/ Virgo Rising, I'm the Mercury man. Mercury is the most elevated planet in my chart.

There was this odd stretch in 2005 where month after month I kept running into the same person every time transiting moon hit Virgo...Our last meeting was at the end of a Mercury retrograde. -- Interestingly the birthdate I got was one day off of one on my "Soulmate Brithdays" list.

Edited to add: I have North Node, Ascendant, & Saturn all in Virgo.

posted February 18, 2008 11:52 AM              

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

posted February 18, 2008 12:13 PM              

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

posted February 18, 2008 01:29 PM            

Many people know about the lunar nodes only,but the moon is not the only object that have nodes. other heavenly bodies do too.

Astronomers record the positions of the nodes of heavenly bodies.

The node refers to the point at which a heavenly body crosses the extended plane of another heavenly body's orbit.

All the physical heavenly bodies have nodes. Not only do the Moon and planets have nodes,so do the minor planets that include asteroids,centaurs,and kuiper belt objects. The Node Book, written by Zipporah Dobyns in 1973, has information about the nodes of the Moon,planets,and the 4 major asteroids.
Jeffrey Wolf Green believes that the planetary nodes are insightful into evolutionary astrology and that the south planetary nodes can give insights into pastlives. It is thought that aspects to a planetary node is like an aspect to that planet itself.

It is possible to get both geocentric and heliocentric nodes for the planets. Planetary nodes are regularly used in Heliocentric Astrology.
http://www.heliocentric-astrology.com/Heliocentric_Planetary_Nodes.html

Philip Sedgwick wrote a book about heliocentric astrology called SUN AT THE CENTER. The heliocentric north and south nodes of heavenly bodies are always opposite each other. That is not the case for the geocentric nodes except for the lunar nodes. The more distant,the object,the more likely they will be closely opposite of each other.

Theodor Landscheidt has a great article on geocentric planetary nodes. He's the first one that started using them in Astrology. He's a scientific oriented astrologer.

"The points of intersection of the Moon’s orbit and the plane of the ecliptic — the Moon’s nodes — were already taken into account in Hellenic horoscopes. Today, they are regarded as essential elements of interpretation; there is no modem ephemeris that does not list them. This should be a cause for astonishment, as the Moon’s nodes are mathematical points that, in contrast to the Sun, the Moon and the planets, are void of space-filling substance. Yet, this immaterial quality is not exceptional in astrology. Like the Moon’s nodes, the Ascendant, Midheaven and house cusps, these outstanding individual factors in interpretation, are immaterial intersection points; they can only be defined by mathematical methods. The astrological expert, applying her or his knowledge, does not even wonder that aspects between such immaterial points and material astronomical bodies are effective."

"Thus, it seems paradoxical and inconsistent that the points of intersection of the ecliptic and the orbits of the planets, the geocentric nodes, were not taken into account in astrology. This is why I presented a groundbreaking paper, The Importance of Geocentric Planetary Nodes at a 1965 conference in Aalen, Germany, (Landscheidt, 1966). When I presented a workshop at the 1971 International Astrological Congress in Aalen, I again spread the news about geocentric planetary nodes. Dr. Zipporah Dobyns, who was present, was in resonance with the message. In 1972, she published her Node Book with ephemerides covering the years 1971 to 1974, computed by Mark Pottenger. My own computer program, which has been available to the public for decades, covers the period 1600 to 2100."
http://www.considerations-mag.com/articles/geocentricPlanetary.htm

you can calculate planetary nodes with Solar Fire and Kepler
also Jonathan Dunn's ephemeris calculates node of heavenly bodies. I definitely use it to find nodes of minor planets. I have been checking out personal name asteroid nodes in charts..especially in evolutionary astrology to check out insights into karmic,evolutionary lessons with certain people. I will post some things later. www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/

the geocentric planetary nodes can be used in synastry. I read that south geocentric planetary nodes of personal planets can be indicators of karmic pastlife connections.

"Some astrological software programs like Solar Fire, v. 5, include the planetary nodes in their computations. What all of the nodes show us is the development of the Soul over time within its current cycle of experience so that the South (Lunar) or Descending (Planetary) Nodes reveal the Soul's evolution up to the beginning of this lifetime and the North (Lunar) or Ascending (Planetary) Nodes reveal the intent the Soul has for its direction in the future. The Moon represents the emotional center of one's personality, its instincts, habits, and unquestioned existential assumptions; the raw, unformed ego-state of personality that serves as one's initial selfhood until (and unless) one can grow into one's individuated Sun self. This is the realm of reaction and untested, visceral perceptions of reality. Its nodes generate emotional impressions of where the Soul has been and where it is going. Aspects between one partner's planets and the other's South Lunar Node stir up distant memories of feelings and instinct past, indicating either an actual karmic connection from a previous lifetime or something terribly reminiscent of one. The hard aspects especially produce patterns of energy and curiosity between two people, as do conjunctions by the Luminaries, by excitement-producing Mars and Uranus, and by the ultimate indicator of karmic obligation, Saturn. Aspects to the partner's North Node are not so easily felt, representing what could be should the two decide to join forces over a considerable period of time. My uses of the planetary nodes have been inspired and influenced by the brilliant pioneering work of eminent astrologer, Jeffrey Wolf Green. Strong aspects, especially tight conjunctions, oppositions, and squares, of one partner's planets and/or angles to the Descending Nodes of the other's personal planets (Mercury, Venus, and Mars) are significant indicators of soul mate connection and likely involvement in previous lifetimes. The actual pre-incarnate contact between the two parties strengthens the experience of soulfulness in the relationship exactly because the source of that contact lies outside one's current bodily perimeters. This works in much the same way that meeting an old and close high school friend after an absence of some twenty or thirty years evokes not only the feelings and memories associated with those years together but also an enhanced sense of life's meaning in general through comparison of where we were then and where we are now. These contacts put us in touch with a deeper dimension of life than we could experience within either of those points in time by themselves."
www.synastry.us/soulmate_indicators.asp

My girlfriend's South Venus Node conjuncts my Mars with 20 minutes of arc,and my South Mars Node oppose her Venus with 29 minutes of arc. That could indicate karmic pastlife as lovers.

Here is something from Zipporah Dobyn's book, The Node Book.

The geocentric north and south nodes of the inner planets, Mercury and
Venus, may appear in any zodiacal sign. The nodes of Mercury can range
from a conjunction when they are lined up with the Sun twice a year at
17 degrees of Taurus and Scorpio, on the north and south heliocentric
nodes, to a maximum separation of about 45 degrees. The Venus Nodes
similarly line up with the Sun at 16 degrees of Gemini and
Sagittarius,on the heliocentric positions, and their maximum
separation is about a quintile of 72 degrees. The geocentric nodes of
Mars range from about 7 Aries to 2 Cancer for the north node and about
8 Libra to 29 Sagittarius for the south node. As the distance from the
Sun increases, the viewpoints of Sun and Earth converge so that the
geocentric nodes remain within smaller arcs until with Pluto, there is
little difference between the geocentric and the heliocentric
positions.

I found Zipporah Dobyns Node Book very informative and insightful http://www.astrology-books.com/store/dobyns_zipporah.html

I feel that as astrologers, we should know about the astronomical points

posted February 18, 2008 02:29 PM            

My North Venus Node - my karmic love interest in this life
in Virgo - into service, fussy,prudish
in 1st - strongly affect me personally
sextile Mercury - '33 - communicative,intellectual

My South Venus Node - my karmic love interest in pastlife
in Scorpio - intense,cathartic,sensitive
in 3rd - communications,neighborhood
conjunct Venus - '45 - beautiful,sensual,possessive

My North Juno Node - karmic partner in this life
in Libra - fair,just,diplomatic
in 1st - strongly affect me personally
conjunct Pluto - '50 - intense,deep,cathartic
sextile Neptune - '02 - sensitive,mystical,imaginative

South Juno Node - karmic partner in pastlife
in Aquarius - unconventional,humanitarian,independent
in 6th house - work,health
conjunct Mars - '12 passionate,assertive,aggressive
quincunx Juno - '19 - committed,faithful,jealous

posted February 20, 2008 02:23 PM              

... Anyone involved in a soulmate relationship longer than 8 years out there?

posted February 20, 2008 03:29 PM              

The soulmate birthdays I am afraid seem not to take so many factors into account:

the whole birthchart is important and also the effect of numerology.

I have found my soulmate (story on some other thread here)and we are Dec 21 and May 18. Perfect harmonious compatibility but there are so many indications on the chart! Numerology would take into account also the year of birth adding it all up etc etc....

posted February 20, 2008 03:31 PM              

Now I cannot even remember which thread I was browsing... oh dear.

posted February 20, 2008 07:29 PM              

Do we only count that as if the other has the sun in that sign ?
for example: i have my vENUS North Node in Leo - does he have to be a leo sun?

posted February 21, 2008 02:17 PM            

Him ->
Moon Square Jupiter(exact)
Moon Conjunct M.C (applying 3 degrees)
Sun Opposite Pluto (exact)
Ascendant Trine Saturn (exact)
Ascendant Trine Sun (exact)

Neptune Conjunct Mercury (exact)
Uranus Conjunct Mercury (separating 1 degree)
Jupiter Trine Sun (exact)
Jupiter Trine Saturn (separating 2 degrees)

Me ->
M.C Trine Venus (exact)

Uranus Trine Venus (separating 2 degrees)
Neptune Trine Venus (separting 3 degrees)
Jupiter Trine Sun (exact)

posted February 21, 2008 06:19 PM              

well when i met Jonnhy i was having my NN conj transit sun - that´s a classic aspect indicating a very important person entering our life ( as sun identifies with masculine,this case was meant a man);

- transit venus/mars was conj natal Moon
- Transit Destiny asteroid was conj my natal Lova - his Lova was being conj by Tr Saturn and his Venus was being conj by Tr Destiny
- transit Cupid was retro,conj my natal Saturn
- Transit Saturn was conj natal Valentine/Karma
-Transit Valentine(r) was conj Uniõn/Destiny
-Transit Karma(r) was conj Cupid

in Progressions:

Juno(r) in the 7th house, conj natal VX
P ASC was conj natal Saturn
P Venus was conj natal Venus and trine natal Neptune
P Mars was conj natal Venus
p vALENTINE was conj natal Karma
P KARMA was conj Venus
P Eros was conj Destiny and Union
P union conj natal Valentine/karma/Mars

Both our Moons were receiving a trine from Transit Sun

They all tells the Story - astrlogers usually left out the asteroids but as you can see they really seem to point strongly when are you goin to meet someone very special and dear to you - for me it DID!