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Lara
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posted April 05, 2008 07:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

Does anyone know please what BML conjunct exact (0') another's AC in synastry would mean? I cannot find any info on this aspect anywhere!
It is our most exact aspect, along with venus conjunct eros.

Thanks fellow knowflakes

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CapSunGemAsc
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posted April 05, 2008 08:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lara,

I had trouble finding exact interpretations of lillith conjunct ascendant but I did find this interpretation: "it can really be a bummer if ur Lillith is conjunct the man's personal planets-he'll bring out the worst in u. I have met a few men with Libra Mars conjunct my Lillith who have really ****** me off and I think it went both ways. I felt as if they were desperate to dominate and control me, and they probably felt the urge to dominate me- which was unusual in these particular men's cases. They weren't the domineering types."
http://the-zodiac.tribe.net/thread/5c0a6aad-e539-4c57-904f-6af9997fe2ab


Here is another link as well.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-8481.html

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Lara
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posted April 05, 2008 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Cap

It's spooky cos my S/O and l have BML conjunct AC and BML opposed AC in synastry :O

Strange no, to have this DW!

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CapSunGemAsc
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posted April 06, 2008 11:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, it certainly would seems you two have a LOT of sparks flying

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wild sheep
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posted April 06, 2008 12:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
it can really be a bummer if ur Lillith is conjunct the man's personal planets-he'll bring out the worst in u.

I gotta disagree with this a little. The natal Jupiter of the person I love most in the world is conjunct my BML. Our relationship has brought out the best in me. Of course, I'm of the opinion that Lilith qualities, like the qualities of the Jungian Shadow, can be enriching and empowering forces in our lives if integrated and used constructively.

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Glaucus
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posted April 07, 2008 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Black Moon is nothing but the lunar apogee(the point of the moon's orbit farthest from the Earth)

Black Moon conjunction in synastry would indicate emotional,sensitive,nurturing connections with some shadow-side influence.

Black Moon opposition in synastry indicate the the same but without the shadow-side influence because it's the lunar perigree(the point of the moon's orbit orbit closest to the Earth)

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belgz
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posted April 08, 2008 06:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this in my fifth and once someone interpreted as my children might die or i might have a fear of having children and that it can even indicate abortion.

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ASC: Virgo

Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo

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blue moon
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posted April 08, 2008 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.antonialangsdorf.de/dateien/astrologie-antonia-langsdorf-essay.php


In the chart of women who have Lilith in hard aspects to the moon or in the 5th house she may also indicate general problems with pregnancy and childbirth - either the chart-owner suffers from miscarriage or she does not want to be pregnant or is afraid of motherhood.


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Not wanting children is commonplace. The current U.K statistic for 0 fertility rate is 20%, there must be lot of choice involved in that statistic.

Anyone reading who is worried about their Lilith in 5th would be well advised not to build up a sense of fatalistic fear around it. Things can go wrong with motherhood, it does happen, it happened to me. But worrying about it is unlikely to serve any useful purpose.

If a personal example helps, I had several miscarriages. No medical explanation. I did go on to have children. No, I wasn't scared. I didn't even bother going to pre-natal classes, I just turned up and got on with it. The midwives said I shouldn't have a baby bigger than the first one naturally, but there you go, the second arrived in 10 minutes, no stitches, and he was a big fella.

As Glacus says, this the lunar apogee. I found his interpretation quite helpful in thinking of how this could play out on a chart, and how it plays out on mine. And btw, I don't have Lilith in the 5th house.

The first half of the above quote I cut and pasted refers to creativity, as the 5th is the house of creativity that could be pertinent to interpretation. So here is the rest:


http://www.antonialangsdorf.de/dateien/astrologie-antonia-langsdorf-essay.php


I have noticed, that she is very strong in artists horoscopes. In general, we find her dominant in the charts of powerful, creative, personalities who live a life apart from social norms and conventions, quite successfully but yet vulnerable or sensitive in their feelings. They tend to have unconventional relationships ore end up living as a maverick because they are not willing to make any compromise.

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blue moon
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posted April 08, 2008 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is a good article on Lilith:

http://www.horusset.com/RIKB/Lillith.pdf

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Beka
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posted April 08, 2008 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the aspects to lilith: http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/MasterBeka/scan0001-1.jpg http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/MasterBeka/scan0002.jpg http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/MasterBeka/scan0003.jpg http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/MasterBeka/scan0004.jpg http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/MasterBeka/scan0005.jpg

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Diandra23
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posted April 08, 2008 09:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith and BML has been quite discussed here on LL

here are some threads about it:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015692.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010794.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009918.html

In my particular view.this one doenst represent "bad"things - after you read about it closer,you will find that the BML does appear ofetn in sinastries and it´s a good aspect to have.

i cant find the thread where i put a bunch of links and texts about the Lilith and BML - if anyone can help...

PS - i have Lilith conj my Ceres in the 5th - BlueMoon helped me on that at the time i was discussing the "possible abortions and miscarriages" of this placement - i believe we are the ones who make our own choices and i will never let me down cause of this placement,i know i will be a Mom someday.

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venusdeindia
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posted April 08, 2008 11:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have lilith opposed my sun n moon in fourth house
i HAVE lost children in a past life.... but not this time. i m determined to make it work

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Daisy 1980
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posted April 08, 2008 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have BML conjunct Pluto and Sun. Any thoughts??

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heart cakes
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posted April 08, 2008 12:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
um. WOAH.

i have bml conjunct vertex and opposite my sun, mercury and mars stellium all within a three deg. orb. this is very true of me:

I have noticed, that she is very strong in artists horoscopes. In general, we find her dominant in the charts of powerful, creative, personalities who live a life apart from social norms and conventions, quite successfully but yet vulnerable or sensitive in their feelings. They tend to have unconventional relationships ore end up living as a maverick because they are not willing to make any compromise.

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Lara
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posted April 08, 2008 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOWEEEEE

you Knowflakes are the BEST

Thank you for ALL your replies...

Lilith is pretty cool if handled with care it seems

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posted April 08, 2008 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun conjunct true lunar apogee(true Black Moon Lilith)in Scorpio in 2nd house with 22 minutes of arc. I already have Sun trine Moon with 2'10 orb

I have vulnerable,sensitive feelings......but I have other stuff that indicates that.... lunar apex t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th,Saturn in Gemini in 9th,Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd
that's also my creative and artistic indicator(Moon in Pisces square Neptune) Mercury-Venus-Saturn-Neptune planetary synchronization in declination is also my creative and artistic bent.

As for unconventional, I have an unaspected(Ptolemaic)Uranus which is also my oriental planet and it disposits Mars in Aquarius. Uranus in golden section aspect to both Moon and Midheaven. Geocentric South Uranus Node conjunct IC - '50.


as for maverick, I have Chiron sextile Midheaven with 42 minutes of arc and sextile North Node with 2 minutes of arc. Chiron parallel Ascendant - '20.


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posted April 09, 2008 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have noticed, that she is very strong in artists horoscopes. In general, we find her dominant in the charts of powerful, creative, personalities who live a life apart from social norms and conventions, quite successfully but yet vulnerable or sensitive in their feelings. They tend to have unconventional relationships ore end up living as a maverick because they are not willing to make any compromise.


Very interesting. I'm a musician and artist (painter and photographer as well as a metaphysical jewelry designer) and I have lived a very unconventional life. I'm very intense and strong-willed and my affect on others, especially in regards to my music, art and photography, is quite strong (in a positive way). My marriage is very unconventional as well.

My 7th House Leo BML is conjunct my Leo DNA by 0 degrees, my Leo Venus and my Leo NNode/ASC midpoint by 1 degree and my Leo Sun/Uranus midpoint by 2 degrees. It also squares my Scorpio Sun/Chiron midpoint by 4 degrees and my Scorpio Neptune/MC conjunction by 5 degrees.

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Lara
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posted April 09, 2008 01:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Lilith in 10th house

semi sextile exact moon
conjunct mars
square jupiter
trine uranus
opposed neptune
trine pluto
square AC

Seems like it's everywhere in my chart! :O

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