posted August 17, 2008 04:47 PM         

Problem is I don't have Internet till tomorrow night
Aaarrrggghhh!!!

Here's a taster:
My solstice Pluto sextile his n Venus
His solstice Venus tribe my n Pluto
My solstice mars conjunct his n Venus
His solstice Venus conjunct my n mars
LOL
His n Eros square my n psyche
My n Eros sextile his n psyche
His n ac conjunct my n Venus
My n ac trine his n Venus
His pl moon/Venus sqaure my n karma/Juno
Pl Chiron conjunct/opposes valentine DW
Pl Osiris conjunct pl Isis
Pl Osiris opposes/square n Isis DW
Pl valentine opposes pl Eros
Pl Eros conjunct n valentine
My pl AC conjunct his pl Chiron/valentine, opposes his n valentine.
My n AC square his n valentine
His pl AC opposes my Venus/amor
GULP!

posted August 17, 2008 04:53 PM         

it's insane... he went abroad on Sunday and has been in contact with me every day!

posted September 25, 2008 02:13 AM           

i have compared composite charts with the Draco aand Pluto zero point chart of the same couple,unbelievable synchronities. i m too short for time.

Hey DD, can u come up with some of ur work .?
DD, i think u should compare ur composite with that singer to the Pluto composite. tell me what comes up.

BTW those who re intimidated by number crunching this entails, download Astrowin free from their website.

posted September 25, 2008 03:01 AM           

but how did you do it?

Did you make a Pluto zero chart from the composite by just substracting the composite Pluto from each position?

Or did you make a composite of both person`s Pluto-zero-chart?

And which singer are we talking about? I guess my most recent crush, right?

posted September 25, 2008 05:38 AM           

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Did you make a Pluto zero chart from the composite by just substracting the composite Pluto from each position?

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nonono,,, arrgh the sound of that !!!

Astrowin has muliple chart options, natal,draco,vedic, zero point charts etc.
So when u make a composite chart u can just click on the chart options to select Draco or Zero point chart and do one for Pluto.

Seriously i recommend anyone who wants to do draco or Zero point charts just Download Astrowin from their website its free for crying out load

just click and you have draco or vedic or zero point charts ready...when i think of all the number crunching i did back when i was new for draconic charts

posted September 25, 2008 07:26 AM         

Is this out of thie world or not?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

His PL sun conjunct my N MC (0)
His PL venus conjunct my N mars/isis (0)
His PL NN conjunct my N sun (2)
His PL NN opposes my N Karma (2)
His PL vertex conjunct my N sun (2)
His PL vertex opposes my N Karma (2)
His PL psyche conjunct my N Neptune (0)
His PL eros conjunct my N valentine (2)
His PL lust conjunct my N cupido (1)
His PL cupido conjunct my N sun (1)
His PL cupido opposes my N juno/karma (1)
His PL karma conjunct my N ASC (1)
His PL karma opposes my N eros (0)
His PL valentine conjunct my N cupido (0)
His PL valentine opposes my N atlantis (3)
His PL destinn conjunct my N Venus (2)

My PL ASC conjunct his N pluto (1)
My PL ASC conjunct his N karma (3)
My PL sun opposes his N isis (2)
My PL mars conjunct his N venus (2)
My PL vertex opposes his N Pluto (0)
My PL juno conjunct his N isis (2)
My PL juno opposes his N cupido (1)
My PL eros opposes his N Pluto (1)
My PL eros opposes his N karma (3)
My PL lust conjunct his N moon (2)
My PL karma opposes his N NN (2)
My PL Karma opposes his N cupido (0)
My PL union conjunct his N venus (1)

His PL ASC opposes my PL moon (0)
his PL ASC opposes my PL NN (0)
his PL venus trine my PL cupido (0)
his PL psyche opposes my PL psyche
his PL union opposes my PL union (1)

posted September 25, 2008 07:56 AM         

OMG VenusdeIndia... is it good, bad or ugly?

They look amazing to me... these pluto aspects!! unless they are too karmic and i'm gonna get burnt OUCH!

posted September 25, 2008 08:12 AM           

I had a look at the aspects from plutonic composite to composite with musicman; there aren`t too many aspects.

In the original composite we have:

Sun widely conjunct Valentine (5) and Mercury (5)

Venus conjunct Jupiter

(Neptune conjunct Psyche) opposite (Karma conjunct Eros)

Juno exactly conjunct Kaali

Isis conjunct Osiris

(Moon conjunct Chiron) opposite Uranus

And the plutonic aspects are:

pl Sun conjunct Valentine (2)

pl Moon conjunct NN (3)
- makes sense since my Moon is almost exactly conjunct his SN in synastry

pl Mercury opposite Sun (1)

pl Saturn conjunct Isis and Osiris (1 / 2)

pl Uranus conjunct Moon (2)

pl NN conjunct Juno and Kaali (0 / 0) and Ceres (3)

pl Destinn conjunct Mars (0)

pl Valentine opposite Venus (3)

pl Chiron opposite Moon (2)

Or should I have been looking at the Davison?
I see that astrowin uses the Davison instead of the composite.

posted September 25, 2008 12:57 PM           

do you use Davison instead of composite for other analysis, too?
I have the feeling that Davison is often more correct and closer to reality than composite, even though it is not always what I want to see.

However, in the Davison with musicman there are these aspects:

Sun conjunct Mercury
Moon conjunct NN
Moon conjunct Chiron
Venus widely conjunct Jupiter
Neptune conjunct Siva
NN widely conjunct Chiron, but with 7°
SN conjunct Kaali
Karma conjunct Juno
Eros conjunct Psyche (in Scorpio )
Osiris conjunct Amor

And the plutonic aspects to the composite:

pl Sun opposite Valentine (0)
pl Moon widely conjunct SN
pl Moon widely conjunct Kaali
pl Mercury opposite Venus
pl Jupiter opposite pluto
pl Saturn conjunct Karma
pl Saturn conjunct Juno
pl Uranus conjunct Moon (0)
pl Uranus widely conjunct NN
pl Uranus conjunct Chiron
pl Neptune conjunct Amor (0)
pl Neptune conjunct Osiris
pl Karma opposite Eros (0)
pl Karma opposite Psyche
pl Destinn conjunct Isis
pl VAlentine opposite Venus
pl Valentine opposite Jupiter
pl Eros opposite Neptune
pl Eros opposite Siva
pl Psyche opposite Neptune
pl Psyche opposite Siva
pl Juno opposite Eros
pl Juno opposite Psyche
pl Chiron conjunct SN
pl Chiron conjunct Kaali
pl Union opposite Mars (0)

How do you interprete those aspects from the plutonic composite?

posted September 25, 2008 11:39 PM           

DD, i did my composite with my mom and dad and then compared the Pl. Composite with the composite and with our nattals...shocking i tell you.can u do that and tell me if i m headed right ?

posted September 25, 2008 11:52 PM           

I'm looking at the Pluto zero point charts for me and my SO, and am noticing that his Pluto chart forms identical aspects with my natal chart, as his natal chart forms with my Pluto chart.

I was wondering if maybe this is supposed to happen, but I just looked at some of the placements of a best friend, and the same thing isn't happening with her. (Although we also have some amazing aspects! D@mn, this Pluto zero point chart is incredible!)

......

I haven't read this whole thread yet, so I'm going to do that now and see if it's already discussed my questions which are...

What's the significance/meaning of a Pluto chart?
and something that may have not been discussed yet

posted September 26, 2008 04:44 AM           

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What's the significance/meaning of a Pluto chart?

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honestly, i was inspired by the draco, and by Jeff Greens work. He was channeling a great IndianSage Swami Yogananda ya know
His book on Pluto is bsially a translation in English of what the great decaesed Guru recited to Green in hid dream...in Sanskrit
beat that !!
basically Jeff says that Yogananda told him that Pluto is the Deprogrammer that helps burn residual karmic patterns to move forward on our paths, it is as important as the North node.

so i said to myself if the Draco built on the NNode works so spookily in karmic relationships lets extend it to Pluto.

so far i infer, that like in ur case u and ur So are definitely working each others Pluto...

posted September 26, 2008 09:02 AM           

I did the comparision with my parent`s and the composite.

With my Dad: Composite (without asteroids):

pl Sun conjuncts Saturn, SN and MC
- and this takes place very close to his natal Sun!

pl Mercury opposite Sun
- the composite Sun is conjunct my natal Saturn

pl Venus conjunct Jupiter
- conjunct my natal Juno and his natal DSC and opposing his natal Saturn

pl Mars opposite Mercury
- pl Mars falls onto my natal Sun and Mercury

pl Saturn conjunct Uranus

pl Uranus opposite Moon

pl NN conjunct Uranus

pl MC conjunct Venus and Uranus

With my Mum:

pl Mercury opposite Moon
- this oppositions falls onto my natal nodal axis; composite Moon conjuncts her Valentine exactly

pl Venus opposite Mercury
- pl Venus falls onto my natal Valentine

ply Jupiter opposite Venus
- pl Jupiter is conjunct her natal Sun and my natal Union and Uranus

pl saturn conjunct Pluto
- falls onto her natal Mars and opposes my natal Jupiter, my chartruler
- it also falls near to her nodal axis (SN)

pl Neptune conjunct Sun
- opposes my natal MArs and Amor

pl ASC conjunct Moon
- conjunct my tropical DSC and SN and opposes my tropical Mars and Neptune
- conjuncts her tropical Valentine

pl ASC conjunct Sun (widely)

pl Sun conjuncts my tropical Suna nd Mercury
pl Moon conjunct my tropical Sun and Mercury and conjunct her tropical Chiron
pl Mars conjunct my tropical Juno and opposes her Venus

posted September 26, 2008 09:08 AM           

with Dad:

Exact MErcury-Karma-conjunction (opposing my tropical Sun and Mercury)

A Sun - Ceres- Juno-conjunction in Cancer

In the Composite with my mom (actually the DAvison)

Amor-Mercury-conjunction

posted September 26, 2008 11:25 AM           

Some aspects in the tropical Davison:

Venus conjunct Mars
Venus opposite URanus
Venus conjunct IC
Venus opposite Juno
Mars opposite Uranus
ASC conjunct Karma
DSC conjunct Nessus
MC conjunct Juno*
Vertex conjunct Isis
Vertex conjunct Osiris
Union opposite Psyche
Eros opposite Nessus
Isis conjunct Osiris* (on 26° Leo with the Sabian of: AFTER THE HEAVY STORM, A RAINBOW.
KEYNOTE: Linking above and below, the Covenant with one's divine nature, promise of immortality.)

And in the Pluto-composite:

pl Sun conjunct Neptune
pl Moon conjunct ASC
pl Moon opposite Nessus
pl Venus opposite Chiron
pl SN conjunct Pluto*
pl ASC conjunct Sun
pl ASC widely conjunct Eros
pl MC conjunct Chiron
pl Antivertex conjunct Saturn
pl Karma opposite Eros*
pl Karma conjunct Nessus
pl Juno conjunct Chiron*
pl Union conjunct Isis and Osiris
pl VAlentine opposite Venus
pl Valentine conjunct MC
pl Valentine conjunct Juno*
pl Isis and Osiris conjunct Saturn
pl Chiron conjunct NN
pl Nessus opposite Sun

posted September 26, 2008 11:44 AM           

his pl Sun opposite my Mars* and Amor
his pl Sun conjunct my DSC

his pl Moon opposite my Mars
his pl Moon conjunct my DSC* and SN

his pl Venus opposite my Venus

his pl Mars conjunct my Moon

his pl IC conjunct my Mars*, Amor and ASC

his pl Juno conjunct my Venus*, Isis and Osiris

his pl Union opposite my Pluto
his pl Union conjunct my IC

his pl Eros opposite my Moon*

his pl VAlentine opposite my Union

his pl Amor conjunct my Moon

his pl Osiris opposite my Juno

his pl Chiron opposite my Chiron

his pl Ceres opposite my Juno

his pl Nessus conjunct my Sun

my pl Sun conjunct his Neptune

my pl Venus opposite his Sun* and Moon
my pl Venus conjunct his IC

my pl IC conjunct his Saturn and Vertex

my pl Karma opposite his Isis

my pl Juno conjunct his Mars, Jupiter and Amor
my pl Juno opposite his Eros*

my pl Union opposite his Pluto*

my pl Valentine opposite his Valentine

my pl Isis opposite his Sun and Moon
my pl Osiris opposite his Sun and Moon
my pl Isis conjunct his IC
my pl Osiris conjunct his IC

his pl Sun opposite my pl Karma

his pl Moon opposite my pl Karma*

his pl Neptune conjunct my NN, ASC and Mars

his pl SN conjunct my pl Moon

his pl ASC conjunct my pl Ceres*

his pl IC conjunct my pl Karma

his pl Juno conjunct my pl SAturn

his pl Union opposite my pl Chiron

his pl Eros conjunct my pl Psyche

his pl Amor opposite my pl Psyche
- a an aspect between Psyche and Eros AND Psyche and Amor?

his pl Isis opposite my pl VAlentine

his pl Chiron opposite my pl Union

his pl Nessus opposite my pl Venus, Isis and Osiris
- that one is extra scary because his pl Nessus falls exactly onto our synastric Sun-Moon-MC (his)-Sun-MErcury (mine)-conjunction; of course the composite Sun falls on the exact place also along with Pl Nessus (from the composite / Davison), AND when we met Transit Pluto had just transited over that spot, which coincidentally is pretty near to the Galactic Center (the conjunction is from 25° - 28° Sag.)

What kind of story does that spell?

posted September 27, 2008 07:10 PM           

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His book on Pluto is bsially a translation in English of what the great decaesed Guru recited to Green in hid dream...in Sanskrit
beat that !!

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Can't!

Deprogrammer, eh? Hmm. Yes, I can see that. I'll take our identical Pluto-Natal/Natal-Pluto aspects to mean that it is in this incarnation when we are meant to & have the ability to change any dysfunctional ways we've been relating to each other in past incarnations.

Or for those who don't believe in past lives, together we're deprogramming dysfunctional and limited ways we've been before meeting one another.

I'm now going to delete our aspects because I'm feeling shy and they so well match us.