posted August 26, 2008 12:38 PM         

Are aspects treated similarly to conventional aspects? So Draco Venus opposite Mars would be read as a Venus/Mars opposition?

posted August 26, 2008 12:51 PM         

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posted August 26, 2008 03:24 PM         

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There is a beauiful landscape, divided by a broad river. On the one side of the river (the far side) there is a pretty meadow with mountains in the background (our previous lives).
On the other side of the river (the one we are standing on - the present life) there`s also a pretty meadow, with a little path leading into a forest, which is in the background of this picture.

Aspects of Draconic to draconic planets:
Describe what happens on the other side of the river; the side with the mountains (the previous incarnations).

Aspects of tropical to tropical planets:
describe the present life, the landscape with the forest we are standing on.

Draconic to tropical aspects now reach from the mountain-side to the forest-side OVER the river and therefore connect our past personality with our present personality.

Could I describe it this way?

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Would you still use this lovely description? And/or how do draconic aspects make themselves felt?

posted August 26, 2008 03:45 PM         

Those memories and experiences are a part of us now. They may have come from the past, but do influence our life. I am convinced only the meaningful memories will show up in the Draco`s (or other way round; what shows up in the Draco`s, will be significant for oyur life ).

posted August 27, 2008 03:34 PM         

But the antiscia are only in effect, if someone else has a planet at the antiscia point and therefor reflects something back, in a complimentary way.

The Draco is a whole different zodiac, it`s lying underneath the usual, but it`s always there and always in action (just have a look at Transits to your Draco planets or even from Draco Transits to your natal planets - I assume there will be an effect. For example: when Transit Uranus was conjunct my Draco Valentine and Draco Amor, I fell in love. Actually Transit Uranus was conjunct my Draco Valentine with an orb of 0°05, which is pretty tight. When I met him Transit Uranus had just gone over my Draco Amor with an orb of 0°11. It was no less vehement and surprising and unexpected than I experienced it when Transit Uranus was conjunct my tropical Venus, when I was 15 years old, falling in love for the first time. It did feel much deeper now, though.)

HOwever, in some synastries the Draco placements explain the attraction. For example in the case of Johnny Cash and June Carter, there was nothing exciting in normal synastry. Very little aspects, w hich would have suggested it was only a weak connection there, which apparently was completely different.

But in the Draco`s there was a lot of intense stuff. And I think they DID feel it, and expressed it.
So I`m not even sure HOW hidden the Draco`s really are. They add a deeper dimension, yes, but deep doesn`t equal hidden It hink.

posted August 27, 2008 04:31 PM         

That the Draconic-planets-owner feels more deeply?

I only wonder, what happens if someone touches my Draconic IC?

posted August 27, 2008 04:40 PM         

That I can definitely say is true. It's way deeper than "normal." Nothing about it is normal. LOL!

posted August 27, 2008 04:46 PM         

I still can`t get over the fact that this guy has his Draco Sun, Moon and MC and his tropical Juno conjunct my Draco IC; that I have my Draco Pluto conjunct his tropical Venus and Draco IC and opposing his Draco Sun, MOon, MC and tropical Juno.

I still an`t get a grip of this, but it surely looks intense, and it feels that way, too.

Oh add to that the fact that my Draco Pluto is also conjunct his tropical Siva, which acts like a substitute for Venus - Pluto (which we already have, almost as a Double whammy as his Pluto is widely opposite my Draco Venus by 4,5°, so I guess it doesn`t count as it is too wide).

posted August 27, 2008 04:52 PM         

He's kind of shown that already!

posted August 27, 2008 04:57 PM         

Oh come on, give me something to cling to, a hope, a dream, an illusion, ANYTHING will do, oh but the truth would be the best.

Ah well, at least he showed SOME interest, even though he probably is that nice to anyone. He`s just a great guy I suppose.

But hey, yes, he should wake up and feel it all, really. I want him to. NOW.

posted August 27, 2008 05:03 PM         

Thank you. And goodnight.

posted August 27, 2008 05:28 PM         

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I still can`t get over the fact that this guy has his Draco Sun, Moon and MC and his tropical Juno conjunct my Draco IC; that I have my Draco Pluto conjunct his tropical Venus and Draco IC and opposing his Draco Sun, MOon, MC and tropical Juno.

I still can`t get a grip of this, but it surely looks intense, and it feels that way, too.

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Wow! Well, all the best with him.

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If IC Is the core, the deepest point of my personality, and Draco is also deeper than tropical, then the Draco IC must be unbelievably deep and vulnerable, no?

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Good line of questioning.

I don't fully understand the IC but had come to think of it as just a very private part of the self.

The draco IC sounds like an almost primitive part of the self. But instead it's the deepest part in a spiritual sense right? In a way, it seems like we might be more aware than we are with the tropical IC when it is touched through synastry, simply because it is spiritual rather than elemental.