posted November 06, 2008 11:03 PM              

Lately I find myself getting attracted to the air signs.. firstly it was the gemini which i didn't pursue further. And now a libra has caught my attention! My fav friends are geminis and an aqua and i feel really comfortable with them.

We've been conversing through emails for the past 1.5 months and i must say the conversations are entertaining and it has got me intrigued. We make each other laugh and we both have some common likings. I guess the scorpio in me loves the mystery surrounding the libra - i have no idea how she looks like although she has seen my profile. And i think we're trying to find out more about each other via the conversations.

I understand that air signs are no good for us water signs as we're too intense for them and they're too aloof for us. mblover probably can testify to that. I am waiting to see when's the right time to ask her out but i just don't know when!

I suppose synastry can assist to see how this potential r/s will pan out - hence can i trouble the folks in lindaland to help me interpret this synastry and its aspects please? I don't have her birth time so i put it as noon time and she's on the outside of the chart.

Thank you!

From cafeastrology

Me - her

posted November 07, 2008 06:01 PM            

I make the assumption that you are male. You essentially seek a girl that maybe different to the expression of your Sun. Your two female planets that point to what you like in a woman both fall in masculine signs - Leo Moon, Libran Venus. What turns you on sexually is also air, Mars in Gemini. Also your DC is in Aquarius, an air sign. Uranus, ruler of your Aqu DC is conjunct your ego or your expression, Sco Sun. You have a very uranian bent to how you express yourself.

Furthermore, you have NN, Pluto and Vesta in Libra. You have your 5th house cusp in Sag, again another masuline sign. Juno is in Sag too and your 8th house ruler, Neptune is in a masculine sign, Sagittarius.

In effect, it's a good match up - DW Moon in 7th. There maybe some "harshness" between your Saturn and her Moon/Mars/ASC but it can point to a durable relationship as might Juno conj Saturn. Your Merc is conj her NN and most importantly is the Libran cluster from both of you. You also have a lot of nice aspects such as Sun conj Moon, Moon trine Venus, Jupiter sextile Venus, Moon trine Pluto and Jupiter trine Uranus. One that you might have to put work into is Mars square Uranus. Vertex opp Vertex is interesting, don't know what it means though.

For meanings of the aspects: http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry.html

Whilst mblover might have a point that air and water are not compatible, you have to understand that mblover has an extreme chart that does not allow for "compatibility" with those that are not like him (but even he might have some compatibility - Venus conj Ura and part of his DC is in Aqu). My chart is also like that, I'm very airy and I don't get along with Sco Suns if they are squaring but heavy plutonic elements in my chart allows for some compatibility. You on the other hand would have enough to get along well with an airy or masculine person in general, in fact you might get along with the airy or masculine folk better than your own kind.

posted November 07, 2008 08:19 PM            

people with air sign sun can be highly sensitive,emotional, if they have significant water,Neptune,Pluto,Moon stuff stuff

My mother has Sun in Gemini,and it is in 12th house(house ruled by Neptune,and associated with Pisces),and it trines Neptune(ruler of 12th house and Pisces)...it also sextiles/parallel Pluto(ruler of Scorpio)

Her Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,Uranus,and even her South Node is in Cancer. She has Moon and Saturn in Scorpio
Her Moon even squares Pluto. so she has Moon-Pluto double whammy

she's not a typical gemini nor typical airsign type...
she's anything but aloof,detached,objective....she is more like watersign than people with watersign suns that don't have any other watersign placements or just a few watersign placements.

You definitely have to consider the whole chart.

posted November 08, 2008 02:52 AM              

Thank you all for the analysis. Appreciate it!

With regards to water signs not being able to co-exist with air signs - i've been reading alot about this negative pairing over the internet. Things like "scorpio's intensity will scare away the flighty air" etc. A generalized statement perhaps? But there wouldn't be fire without smoke, no?

I do agree that we have to look at the charts as a whole in order to determine the true character rather than just by the sun signs as that can portray an incomplete picture of the person.

23 - you were right in saying that i get along better with air signs rather than my own kind - scorpio, cancer (surprisingly)! Me and my airy friends can talk about anything under the sun and we have so much fun!

I just googled about the vertex opp vertex aspect and it was quite vague; however i manage to find these links:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011471.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009480.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070526211224AAE5Ywp

Although some say vertex is not important in synastry; only in natal.

posted November 08, 2008 06:14 AM              

This is very true for me as i don't fit the typical air sign discription. I have alot of water influence in my chart by sign/house/planets. My scorpio moon is pretty hard on me lol

But yes it all depends on the overall chart.

posted November 08, 2008 03:52 PM            

((Don't take the following personal, use your Aqua Sun and Libra Moon with some objective logic, get rid of your Aries ASC for a moment, put your Aqua arrogance on hold for a moment, don't get impulsive to conclude something about me or 'astroscorp' too fast.. I am trying to help astroscorp))

1. Last time astroscorp was here interested in a Gem woman. Did it work? No. Why would you not writing about reasons why it didn't work? And, not highlighting that the Gemini woman was indeed an Airy person.

2. Astro 101. There are six signs that are Feeler/Thinker.. They Feel first and then think.. (Fire and Water).. There are other six signs that are Thinker/Feeler.. They think first and then feel..(Air and Earth)

astroscorp is one amazing Feeler (a passionate feeler very much like me, NOT me)

Sun Uranus Mercury in Scorpio - Feeler Water Passion
Moon Mars in Leo - Feeler Fire Passion
Jupiter in Cancer - Feeler Water Passion - OMG that's deep
Neptune in Sag - Feeler - Fire Passion

Those are amazing 7 planets in Passionate Fire+Water Feeling signs.

Now let's look at the woman.

Sun Mercury in Libra - Thinker Soul Core and Mind. Highly indecisive.
Venus in Virgo - Thinker passive love.
Moon in Aqua - Thinker, detached emotional expressions. Also, an amazing shocker for astroscorp when she will give higher priorities to her friends as the time unfolds. It's coming six months down the road.
Mars in Gemini - Here is a simple question, can she even meet level of sexual passion that astroscorp at one point in this relationship will desire? Remember, the deeper spiritual sex makes a huge difference in Scorpio's life than some superficial Mercurial Sexual energies.

Now, are you telling me that this woman who has a Saturn in Leo which is highly restricting his Moon and Mars.. and an Aqua Moon in opposite sign of his Moon Mars is made for a wonderful long term relationship just because he has a Venus in Libra and DC in Aqua and some masculine sign analysis? I haven't even started to look at Libra Pluto's and Scorpio Uranus power struggles/freedom needs in this relationship.

3. Making friends or having sex with an Air person (Not Air Sun sign, but overall Airy person like the above woman or you) is quite different from being attached to that person for a deeper love, long term relationship or marriage. For a deeper love, you need depth and an ability to express that depth on the same wavelength. Right now, 'astroscorp' is at a very early stage of this relationship.. sure.. short term sounds like fun. But both have not even started a deeper relationship yet. If it works out Long term, then I am sure 'astroscorp' will come back right here and correct me or others.

4. Before you say that I have an extreme chart.. You should know that it is extreme in Scorpio, meaning something that can go beneath way more deeper in analyzing humans/emotions than you would ever think or imagine. So, when it comes to responding for astroscorp, I am thinking way more deeper for 'him' by putting 'him' and visualizing 'him' with 'her'.

Additionally, His chart is also very deep. He works hard in finding what is beneath the superficiality of the other person. And, one way or the other, astroscorp will get there in finding the 'depth' of this woman too.

5. BTW, the woman has the Mars in Gemini, astroscorp's Mars is in Leo. I am also not sure why you are saying that There maybe some "harshness" between your Saturn and her Moon/Mars/ASC

6. You should also know that whenever I have seen Scorps with Air Moons, I have never concluded that they won't work out with an Air Sun Signs. The whole chart matters. But, the analysis should start with basics.

posted November 08, 2008 03:53 PM            

I apologize that I am sonding rude with my analysis. My analysis is based on long term commitment oriented view of your relationship with this woman. If you are looking for a short term fling, you should disregard my replies. You are powerful and intense enough to get under pants of any woman you desire.

I totally agree with your attraction towards Airy women considering you have a Venus in Libra and DC in Aqua. But, the whole chart is much bigger when it comes to long term relationships/deeper love. And, to find a passionate deep relationship, you will atleast need a few inner planets in Water and Fire..

posted November 08, 2008 04:14 PM              

No worries about your analysis - i appreciate your time in interpreting the synastry and I'm learning so much from it.

So what happened to the previous gem woman? Communication was one major problem there! Somehow we cannot relate with one another and i felt strange being with her. I can't explain that but it just wasn't right. Although she's a gem and have several air planets but I think she's suffering from some social awkwardness.

I guess it was just lust at first sight for me but we just cannot connect. So I had to cut my losses and move on. It was strange though because I have a few other gemini female friends and we can talk anything under the sun and had loads of fun.

posted November 08, 2008 04:18 PM              

Fingers crossed! As I have mentioned in my previous post - i am intrigued with her and i think she is too since she has taken a keen interest in my blog and have asked me to keep blogging!

posted November 08, 2008 05:36 PM            

For instance, I'm an Aquarius, Libra Moon, Gem rising. My boyfriend is a Pisces, Leo Moon, Cancer rising. From just that you'd think that we wouldn't work out. WELL, I have a Pisces Venus and he has an Aquarius Venus. He also has an Aquarius Mercury like me. Plus his Pisces Sun conjuncts my NN.

posted November 08, 2008 11:01 PM            

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. Last time astroscorp was here interested in a Gem woman. Did it work? No. Why would you not writing about reasons why it didn't work? And, not highlighting that the Gemini woman was indeed an Airy person

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Ok, get someone with either a Mercury in Cancer or Tau and the girl can be a Gemini. Otherwise strong positive contacts to each party's Mercuries. Each person is different. Doesn't mean that all Geminis are incompatible with astroscorp.

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Astro 101. There are six signs that are Feeler/Thinker.. They Feel first and then think.. (Fire and Water).. There are other six signs that are Thinker/Feeler.. They think first and then feel..(Air and Earth)

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Never seen this one in astro text books, maybe it's in your little manual. I feel before I think and I'm nearly all air, again feel free to judge me, label me and use every insulting adjective as usual but don't let me do it to you of course.

Here's a post from me last week, my immediate emotional reaction put in words. You make me feel the same way as this post. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019786.html

Get yourself educated.

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astroscorp is one amazing Feeler (a passionate feeler very much like me, NOT me)
Sun Uranus Mercury in Scorpio - Feeler Water Passion
Moon Mars in Leo - Feeler Fire Passion
Jupiter in Cancer - Feeler Water Passion - OMG that's deep 
Neptune in Sag - Feeler - Fire Passion

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Again, your theory. Not mine. This isn't a competition of water v air or whatever.

I looked at astroscorps matter at hand to explain why he would be compatible with air, I directed it to his query and tried to explain why he was attracted to air signs.
He clearly would get along with watery people, he's got planets in water including Sun. However, he has a very good chance with getting along with airy people. He said it himself. In matters of romance/sex, he could get along with airy people better (his Venus and Moon are of masculine polarity). Mentally, the case is different, he's explained it. However, just because a girl is airy and has her Mercury in Libra (as in this case) doesn't mean that he wouldn't get along with her. Each case is different and must be considered on its merits, I was trying to make that point.

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Moon in Aqua - Thinker, detached emotional expressions. Also, an amazing shocker for astroscorp when she will give higher priorities to her friends as the time unfolds. It's coming six months down the road.

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Her Moon rules her DC, it is square his Uranus which rules his DC. It might indicate a bumpy ride (use my square theory below for further explanation) but there is a connection there definitely. There is also a positive Moon-Nep DW indicating great emotional depth and Moon-Saturn conj indicating stability.

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Mars in Gemini - Here is a simple question, can she even meet level of sexual passion that astroscorp at one point in this relationship will desire? Remember, the deeper spiritual sex makes a huge difference in Scorpio's life than some superficial Mercurial Sexual energies.

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But what sexually turns him on is Gemini in nature. I can't speak for the Sco Sun but I know how Gemini Mars works. He can get some depth from his NN/Pluto being conj her Pluto/Merc but yes, there is a lack of Pluto contacts (I presume so because they have not been listed). And also, I did notice this the first time and didn't raise it because of the nature of astroscorp's queries, if you use the modern view of sex, the 8th house falls in Pisces.
However, having said that, he intuitively seeks uranian qualities in others, just like I seek Libran/Plutonian/Lunar and Uranian qualities because of the nature of my 7th house. Don't ever underestimate the power of the DC, it is the instinctual compass of a person.

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Now, are you telling me that this woman who has a Saturn in Leo which is highly restricting his Moon and Mars.. and an Aqua Moon in opposite sign of his Moon Mars is made for a wonderful long term relationship just because he has a Venus in Libra and DC in Aqua and some masculine sign analysis? I haven't even started to look at Libra Pluto's and Scorpio Uranus power struggles/freedom needs in this relationship.

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My theory on Saturn contacts: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019686.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018758-5.html

In summary, Saturn is the glue that holds relationships together. Hard Saturn contacts (and conj) are commonly found in familial relationships as well as long-term couples. Too many heavy Saturn bonds will make the relationship difficult to take, it will be a heavy burden and seem stifling and parental. Why? Let's use basic chemistry then. A chemical reaction will always take the path of less energy to undergo the reaction. The path of least resistance in square and the hot-cold conj is to argue and fight. It takes a lot of work to get over this least path of resistance. If action is taken, ie more energy is put in to overcome least resistance, then more constructive energy will come out which will be very beneficial. As I've said, to do this is hard work.

Read what I said again, I add my own emphasis:

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There maybe some "harshness" between your Saturn and her Moon/Mars/ASC but it can point to a durable relationship as might Juno conj Saturn.

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Black words are the operatives, I didn't say absolute certains of WILL or SHALL or MUST.

Also in particular, Mars-Saturn aspects are notoriously difficult to deal with but are very satisfying if the arduous effort is put in. I've experienced them in reality and I have one with you and find it rather chafing being the Mars person because we choose the path of less resistance.
As for the other things, as above. It was a quick post that I did to try to explain to him quickly as to why he might be compatible with an air person and to explain to him that he wasn't wierd to feel that way if he was a Sco (ie being attracted to air). I haven't gone off and looked at midpoints, composites, Davidsons or progressions etc.
Yet again you convert this into this me v you battle. This has got nothing to do with him being lost to what might seem to you as the "dark side". But of course, you always want to make this a competition.

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Making friends or having sex with an Air person (Not Air Sun sign, but overall Airy person like the above woman or you) is quite different from being attached to that person for a deeper love, long term relationship or marriage. For a deeper love, you need depth and an ability to express that depth on the same wavelength. Right now, 'astroscorp' is at a very early stage of this relationship.. sure.. short term sounds like fun. But both have not even started a deeper relationship yet. If it works out Long term, then I am sure 'astroscorp' will come back right here and correct me or others.

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And if it doesn't work with this girl then it might work with another airy person. Don't eliminate an airy person (or anyone in general) from a marriage, as a partner or as a friend. That's why I don't do astrology in reality on people.

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Before you say that I have an extreme chart.. You should know that it is extreme in Scorpio, meaning something that can go beneath way more deeper in analyzing humans/emotions than you would ever think or imagine. So, when it comes to responding for astroscorp, I am thinking way more deeper for 'him' by putting 'him' and visualizing 'him' with 'her'.

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I also made a point about my chart as well being extreme. We are both atypical (have "unbalanced" charts) and you know it and you have mentioned it above. What I did was make each of our charts (you, him and me) individual and pointed that out. Each case is different and you know that is what I meant so don't give me this "I'm so deep" stuff as a manipulative cover-up.

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Additionally, His chart is also very deep. He works hard in finding what is beneath the superficiality of the other person. And, one way or the other, astroscorp will get there in finding the 'depth' of this woman too.

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Every chart is deep, poster boy.

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You should also know that whenever I have seen Scorps with Air Moons, I have never concluded that they won't work out with an Air Sun Signs. The whole chart matters. But, the analysis should start with basics.

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So you are telling me that you have seen a decent representative sample or is it the usual two-person sample person? Each case is individual. Doesn't mean that he can't find someone airy and not compatible. He could for example find a Libra with a Sco stellium for example that might compatible or might not. Again this depends on other things astrological (Davidson, Comp, Midpoints and importantly progressions) or not - ie REAL life, something that astrology can't tell us about.

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7. Some masculine/Feminine Scorpio guidance for you from Linda.

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posted November 09, 2008 01:47 PM              

Without going to a heated debate - i guess the purpose of my post was to find out if i am compatible with the libra astrologically. It seems like i am attracted by the airy people for their light hearted take on life, able to have fun and not being overly serious. Maybe I'm just not the atypical scorpio due to the presence of the airy planets in my chart.

My ex was a cappy and it felt like we were going through the motions during the later part of the r/s. The 7 years r/s reached a plateau becuz i think we got bored with one another. She being the earthy person was too serious.. i love to have some fun and to joke around but i was knocked down by her for being silly. Also I love to give pleasant surprises but she just couldn't appreciate the meaning behind it. And she being so career minded whereas i'm easy... etc.. So there you go..

posted November 10, 2008 03:25 AM              

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000809.html

Below was taken from one of the forumer in that thread:

"One thing that really struck me was how many marriages have these Saturn aspects. Saturn-Venus or Saturn-Sun are the most common. And then Saturn and the Moon were second in quantity. And that they had very long lasting relationships, a lot had, in their comparisons, "hard" Saturn aspects."

posted March 22, 2013 04:08 AM            

i only have moon libra in 7th house, libra descendent, saturn aquarius

i guess since saturn rules my sun sign, aquarius is put to importance, and my desc is air and so is moon

i have 3 fire signs in my chart so i thought id get alot more fire friends but i feel like our egos clash way too much and its like a competition with them (aries asc) ehhhhh lol

love u air ppl so much ur my kryponite <3

posted March 23, 2013 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
i have been wondering about this myself forever!!!! i only have two air signs in my chart but every single friend and boyfriend is an air sign!!!!! i have some gemini friends but im never romantically interested in them, there i guess too all over the place, dont know what they want, naive, u know what it prob is tho, im scorp venus so i can always/need someone who is up to par with my drive lol n gems i just always get a feeling that theyre not horny, just curious which is totally diff energies. idk just dont lol no offense amazing friends tho!!!! anyways every aquarius in world without fail who i meet likes me n majority time libra its ridic cause i have no earth friends at all (im cap sun), like 2 waters, a handful of fires but the rest allllllll air. everytime i like somebody for aome reason i look up there birthdate n theyre air!!

i only have moon libra in 7th house, libra descendent, saturn aquarius

i guess since saturn rules my sun sign, aquarius is put to importance, and my desc is air and so is moon

i have 3 fire signs in my chart so i thought id get alot more fire friends but i feel like our egos clash way too much and its like a competition with them (aries asc) ehhhhh lol

love u air ppl so much ur my kryponite <3

like somebody said above, dont underestimate the power of the asc/desc axis, my opinion thats most important part of chart

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