posted November 19, 2008 04:51 PM         

now this is a good example of multidimensional intelligence. aquarius with a little scorpio twist, perhaps?

posted November 19, 2008 06:48 PM         

I am a very rightbrained type of person. I am nonlinear in my thinking. I think mainly in pictures instead of words, visualizing things nonstop in my mind's eye(when I do or say anything,I automatically visualize myself doing it like I am seeing myself in the mirror so I am even very aware of my own facial expressions),I can visualize and flip things in my head,seeing things from various angles, lateral,intuitive thinking. Because I am non-linear in my thinking, my speech can be tangential,loose,rambling,and even disorganized. It's been mistaken for psychotic features too,and I was misdiagnosed as having a schizoaffective disorder. Psychosis is not just hallucinations, but it can also be disorganized thought processeses. There is quite a bit of overlap in the symptoms of people that have disorganized psychotic disorders and people that are neurodivergent,but I don't want get into all that. I have a history of auditory processing problems,visual processing problems,coordination problems,organization problems, and short term memory problems as sensory integration problems(oversensitivity to light,touch,sound). Special education therapies correct those things for the most part,and so my problems are more subtle. I also take Cod liver/Fish oil to get my Omega 3 Fatty Acid DHA intake(Found to help with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD - I read book,LCP Solution),and that helps a lot..especially with the hypersensitivity. I also take multivitamins with a strong Vitamin B complex that help with brain functioning. I use my strong visual spatial,long term memory strengths to compensate for my weaknesses. Of course,that compensation leads to being a perfectionist that will do anything to keep from making mistakes even quadrupling checking my work. I tend to think things over and pause before I speak to minimize speech errors.

My Mercury is in Scorpio in 3rd house - intense,emotional,intuitive,penetrating mind in the areas of communications,mental activity which can be involved in compulsive,obsessive thoughts and can be emotionally fixed on ideas
- I don't put much emphasis on sign,house placements.

I am only going to list Mercury aspects, as well its aspects to midpoints,nodes,and fixed stars. This would give a good idea of how my mental processes work.

My Mercury is Epimethean Direct (Mercury is direct and behind the Sun) - a practical, objective and analytical mind leading to act on the basis of facts and past experience rather than on hunches and gut-feelings. well-organized mental faculties enable you to manage people and run things. But in doing so, you may need to keep an open mind and avoid rigid thought patterns. http://www.khaldea.com/planets/merc_ed.shtml

My Mercury is conjunct Zuben Eschamali - '38
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Zuben Alschemali Honours, wealth, distinction, brilliant mind, success in sports, politics, war, religion, writing, tragedy, violence, melancholy
Jupiter/ Mercury/Mars http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html

with my Mercury conjunct a Jupiter/Mercury/Mars star - indicate a high degree of nervous energy as well as well energetic,expansive mental processes.

My Mercury is conjunct the Heliocentric South Mercury Node - '20,and that can indicate a high degree of nervous energy and being quick. that can indicate the scattered brained and restless at times. I also tend to talk rapidly,and it got me misdiagnosed by psychiatrists as having bipolar in regards to manic speech. Rapid speech is also part of cluttering which is not connected to mental illness and found in many people with neurodivergent conditions. I tend to have short attention span and be easily distracted,paying attention to things around me. I also tend to do things too fast like walk too fast,eat too fast,react to things too fast. hypervigilant

My Mercury is conjunct the Heliocentric South Mars Node - '00,and that can indicate an energetic,passionate mental processes. React quickly to things. also nervous irritation. My Mercury square Mars/Node - '08 adds to that.

My Mercury is conjunct Venus - 3'26 and Mercury parallel Venus - '13 (Mercury-Venus occultation) can indicate an aesthetic mind. Mercury sextile Geocentric South Venus Node - '32 adds to the theme

My Mercury is contraparallel Saturn - '38 which suggests some linear,logical thought processes as well as my speech delays as well as hesitant,compensatory speech mechanisms. Saturn rules the ears,and so can indicate problems with auditory processing. Mercury sextile Geo South Saturn Node - '20 adds to the theme of linear,logical thought processs

My Mercury is parallel Neptune - '33 which suggests a nonlinear imaginative,intuitive,visualizing mind. Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint - '14 - those indicate my nonlinear thought processes that can lead to rambling,disorganized speech( that's involved in cluttering) as well as short term memory problems,prone to daydreaming,absentmindedness,and an overly sensitive nervous system,weak nerves

note: my Saturn contraparallels my Mercury-Venus-Neptune, and so it's in a 4 planet aspect configuration in the declinations and emphasies all the previous discussed declination aspects. It's a very strong theme. This would also indicate a visual-tactile learner. In medical astrology, Saturn-Neptune configurations involving Mercury are known for problems with nervous system too.

note: I have a planetary picture of Mars/Node midpoint square Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune written out as Mercury = Sun/Neptune = Mars/Node. It emphasises themes of the Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint and Mercury square Mars/Node midpoint. It also indicates a mind that is creative but can be easily overloaded,and it can indicate problems with coordination

My Mercury - 47'30 golden section aspect to Pluto - '00 which indicates an intense,penetrating type of mind. can be obsessive,compulsive thoughts..hyperfocus Mercury sextile Geo South Pluto Node - '02 adds to the case

My Mercury biquintile Eris - '06
- a creative,divergent mind

also my Mercury,Mars,Saturn,Uranus,and Ascendant are involved in an 11th harmonic aspect configuration with corresponding midpoint pictures of Uranus conjunct Mercury/Ascendant - '36 and Mars oppose Mercury/Saturn - '50 - this can indicate an active,logical,innovative mind...quick reflexes In medical astrology, Mars/Saturn combos involved with Mercury can indicate problems with nervous system as well as problems with development of speech and coordination....Saturn rules the ears too,and so can indicate problems with auditory processing

My maternal grandfather had Mercury retrograde,and he was far from stupid. In spite of not even graduating from Junior High,he was able to talk about almost any subject to people,and he read a lot too. He can talk about what he read. He had really good common sense about things.

posted November 19, 2008 07:48 PM         

I jave jupiter conjunct uranus in 3rd and i have moon in gemini.

My dad is a very smart person too. But my gemini mum doesnt like learning unless its gossip.

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

posted November 19, 2008 10:08 PM         

You sound like a great teacher, non judgemental and you don't compare one student to another in termes of performance.

My question for you GemLover is, the learning environment does make a diffrent
and depending on what type of learning style you have will make a diffrence,

so how do you provide a learning enviroment that can accomdate everyones diffrent learning styles?.

My programing Profesor was the best half of the class were visual learners and he changed his lesson plans for visual learners.

I was also thinking, what if we looked at the persons Natal chart and figure out what

kind of home and learning enviroment they have grown up in and developed in, whould that be a better indication on how intelligent someone is in addition to mercury placements?.

Example,I did a composite chart with my birth chart and the Birth Chart of the city of Ottawa and I got a lot of 12th house placements.

Which holds true because I have never been happy here and I've never rally learned much gowing to college here.

posted November 20, 2008 12:59 AM         

I was going to mention the early environment too. I think that's a good point because it can have a huge effect on what kind of learner you are. I'm not sure if it can be seen from one isolated part of the natal chart though, because really isn't it reflected in the whole chart? I mean if I look at my fourth house for my early environment, all I can see is Aquarius on the cusp (I have 3rd and fourth house intercepted - both Aquarius) and Mars in Pisces actually in the fourth. So I'm not sure if I can completely pick up on my learning style from that. Would it be stretching it too much to look at the placement of the ruler of the fourth house?

posted November 20, 2008 02:04 AM         

But it does conjunct my Mars in Aries in the 5th, so it could be the competiveness of it all, lol.

posted November 20, 2008 03:03 AM         

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im no book worm and l was useless at school due to my boredom and lack of concentration yet l am always told im highly intelligent although l don't think i'm THAT smart.

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Boredom is simply a result of not being stimulated enough - maybe your teachers just couldn't keep up with you.

posted November 20, 2008 05:18 AM         

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"Well BM, Einstein was dyslexic (a learning disability)."
As somebody who is Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHD myself
I want to point out that learning disability in the UK is a term that is referred to only people that are intellectually handicapped.
Here in the United States, it is a term that is referred to only people who have at least average intelligence,but have atypical neurological processing that makes it difficult in a certain area(s).
In the United States of America, I would be considered to have a learning disability. In the UK, I would not be considered to have a learning disability. I would be considered neurodivergent. I read many British Dyspraxics use that term for themselves.
I know that it can get confusing. It can communication problems because of the cultural issues of the word. I have been rebuked by British people for using learning disability in regards to Dyslexia. They didn't know that I was referring to in United States terms.

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Thank you, Glaucus, for this clarification. This was something I didn't know.

I was indeed referring to someone whose disablities are more challenging than dyslexia. There is no question that people with dyslexia are capable of going on to live independent and successful lives, that will not be the case for this child.

By contrast, my son born the same day, does not face the same challenges and difficulties. But like anyone, without application and effort any intelligence he possesses will be wasted.

Personally I think the ability to listen and take on board other people's points of view is a tool that can improve a person's intelligence and reasoning abilities. And no, I don't think I am particularly gifted in this sense. But I try.

posted November 20, 2008 05:22 AM         

Believing in spiritual things ~ yes, sometimes I think that can lead to accusations of stupidity. But that, in my view, is a failiure to understand that not everything can be proved, slotted into a system, explained rationally, calculated and quantified. I think the concept of a symbol is also sometimes difficult for the modern mind to grasp.