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Topic: Izo - SN persona chart
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aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 07:05 AM
"Aqua/scorp, how do you feel about that Anubis conj SN on the Asc/DC axis in your SN persona chart?"Not so surprised lol Anubis is pretty aspected in my natal. I wonder what it all means? What do you think? O my you should see my Anubis persona chart! it looks strange with all these aspect lines. IP: Logged |
izodesmozina Knowflake Posts: 1472 From: No longer under Pluto's jurisdiction. Yay!! Registered: Oct 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 07:23 AM
Interesting... I also saw an exact conjunction of Neptune with IC in your SN persona chart. You some kind of mystic in a previous life? It opposes MC, it had smth to do with your previous occupation. I like your natal Anubis Sabian (BRILLIANT SUNSHINE JUST AFTER A STORM), it's very optimistic. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 07:26 AM
Aqua Scorp,it doesn`t work for me. If I add more than one asteroid to the additional asteroids, then the drop down menu will show me those asteroids as their added numbers. Example: I add Siva, Kaali and Anubis, and in the drop down menu it reads: asteroid 117042271912, and of course the computer can`t do a persona chart of these. What am I doing wrong here? IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 07:43 AM
DD i'm not so sure whats wrong here.. i will try to figure it out. It could have something to do with the chart drawing style maybe? I noticed you were using a different style.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 07:47 AM
Okay, I got it; I have to use a comma ",", not a ";".  IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 07:48 AM
Izo yes i like that Anubis Sabian also. Considering Anubis is associated with less positive things. I have always had a strong sense that I was involved with the mystics, the occult in a past life.Heres my S.N to my Natal. Natal is in the inside. I wish i could make the chart come up smaller they are to big. EDIT: OK good i was thinking i could have something to do with the commas. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 07:54 AM
Hmm, interesting it seems that in all my persona charts there is VALENTINE conjunct MESOPOTAMIA.In several charts it is also conjunct EROS. Interesting. Oh wow in my Atlantis personar I have Pluto on the ASC squaring Eros-Valentine-Mesopotamia.  IP: Logged |
aquaspryt69 Knowflake Posts: 1606 From: Arizona Registered: Feb 2004
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posted December 09, 2008 07:57 AM
This is all fascinating, but how the hell do you make any sense of it all? IP: Logged |
izodesmozina Knowflake Posts: 1472 From: No longer under Pluto's jurisdiction. Yay!! Registered: Oct 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 08:10 AM
Spry, You take it one by one. At least that's what I do, otherwise it gets confusing for me. You should be very clear about what you're searching for. If you want to look into your previous lives, you do the persona charts that could inform you about it (like the SN, or Karma, or a persona chart for the 12th house cusp ), if you want to look into your love life psychology, you do a persona chart for Venus, DC, Valentine, Amor, Eros etc. Then you look for similar patterns in these charts and try to draw a few conclusions. Hope this helps. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 08:13 AM
AquaScorp,did you see? In yours there is some heavy Kaali actiona gain, with the Kaali-Venus-saturn link. Here is mine:
Aquaspryt69,
the Persona charts is supposed to tell you more about single planets, for example the Venus persona chart would give you some insight about your Venus-position (of course it has yet to be proved that the persona charts hold any validity; even though I must admit they bring some astonishing results). In the case of the SN persona chart you can delve a bit deeper into whatever SN means to you. To me it is about past lives, among other things, and thus could give some insight about past karma or past lives. With Venus on the ASC of my SN-chart, relationships seem to have been pretty important for me in a past life. The ASC of that SN-chart on my Vertex in this life could mean that a past life still has some strong influence on me. Since it`s also conjunct Eros, it could be that I will feel erotically drawn to people whom I have already met in a previous life. Of course all of that only works, if you believe in past lives. IP: Logged |
izodesmozina Knowflake Posts: 1472 From: No longer under Pluto's jurisdiction. Yay!! Registered: Oct 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 08:15 AM
Aqua/Scorp, quote: I have always had a strong sense that I was involved with the mystics, the occult in a past life.
I think you still are, or could be. Having both Karma and NN in the 12th house, with Pisces on the cusp, says a lot about that. Perhaps your work is not done yet, you still need to focus on these matters in this lifetime. But my impression was that you already overcame the demons in the closet in other lives. That beautiful Moon-Jupiter conjunction in your SN chart conjunct Ascendant tells me this, as well as the small benefic on your DC! You inherited some good stuff from previous lives. You have an interesting chart btw.  IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 08:18 AM
"AquaScorp, did you see? In yours there is some heavy Kaali actiona gain, with the Kaali-Venus-saturn link"Yes i noticed that and could not take my eyes of it for abit. I have to meditate on this. I feel i know what it means but i can't quite put it into words yet..like when you have forgotten something and you know it in your head and its just waveing at you but you can't pinpoint it.
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aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 08:38 AM
DD you have S.N Anubis conjunct your Natal IC! "I think you still are, or could be. Having both Karma and NN in the 12th house, with Pisces on the cusp, says a lot about that. Perhaps your work is not done yet, you still need to focus on these matters in this lifetime. But my impression was that you already overcame the demons in the closet in other lives. That beautiful Moon-Jupiter conjunction in your SN chart conjunct Ascendant tells me this, as well as the small benefic on your DC! You inherited some good stuff from previous lives." Wow Izo are you a mind reader? Psychic maybe? hehe.. you just put into words what i have always felt within.
You know i have always bin told i am lucky and a psychic once told me that i am very lucky and blessed and also bin told that i have blessings in the pipe line. Sometimes i always had this thing that i am "protected" like i'm in the right place at the right time. Also i have inclination that i may of made the ultimate sacrifice in a past life for something. I do feel i have unfinished business somewhere and i have always found i feel bottled up with alot of energy, thoughts and emotions..about what i dunno. I wish i could have clear sight of my past lives but i do feel like deep down i really don't either want to or don't need to or i'm not suppose to. im finding my chart rather interesting at the moment after discovering strong aspects to certian asteroids which i made two threads about and Sabian Symbols. "You have an interesting chart btw." aww thanks Izo. I just love how i learn something new everyday. But you know the funny thing is (random) that i was mean to be born an Aries Sun in March so maybe fate could have lead me to be born when i was. Also another thing to i have had many near death experiences in the womb and outside but i progressed fast, pulled through and survived. I'm lucky to be here and very strong and healthy now. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 09:05 AM
Aqua,"DD you have S.N Anubis conjunct your Natal IC! " Yes, I noticed that, too! Interesting, especially since the IC is the core of ones soul, it doesn`t get any deeper than that. SN of course also has lunar symbolism as the Moon`s Node. In the natal my Anubis is on the Sabian: A WOMAN READING TEA LEAVES: Anubis is not only dark, I see him rather as a guide between two lives or two states of being. " Sometimes i always had this thing that i am "protected"" Yes, I`ve always had that feeling, too (I have asteroid Angel exactly on my ASC). Actually when I was born I had the umbilical chord wrapped around my neck and shoulder. I was just lucky to have my shoulder so high up, cause otherwise I would have strangled myself.
And when I was maybe one or one and a half years old, I drowned in a swimming pool. I just had jumped into the water and drowned and at first my Dad couldn`t find me under water, but then all at once, I had just been laying over his arm, "as if someone had placed you there", he told me about that. Must have been a horror for my Mum, who can`t swim and has been seeing this from the edge of the pool. Especially since she had to witness her own brother drown and die, when he was about the same age as I was when I drowned. But I was lucky. On another occasion I was going home from Ireland with a ferry, and there was such a strong storm that the ocean relaly was whipped up, and the capt`n later told us, that we had been just very lucky that the ferry didn`t sink. He shouldn`t have left the harbour in the first place. I really will never forget that night. On another occasion I had been walking into the sea a bit, with my little brother on my arms, and we had been standing on a sandbank and looking out on the sea, and it was only when I turned around that I noticed t hat the flood had come back. We just barely made it back to the beach, completely wet both of us. But we made it. Well, my little brother has Jupiter and Uranus conjunct Moon in Sagittarius, maybe his luck connected to mine.  " wish i could have clear sight of my past lives but i do feel like deep down i really don't either want to or don't need to or i'm not suppose to." I also find,t hat I only find out what I am supposed to find out, exactly the time when I am meant to find it out. And now is such a period, where I have good access to those memories again.
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 09:33 AM
From my own SN chart these configurations caught my eye:- The SN`s ASC-Venus-Kaali-Karma exactly on my natal Vertex and Eros in my 8th house - SN`s True Node conjuncts my Valentine in 12th house - SN`s Vertex conjuncts my natal Mars and True Node on the ASC - Sn`s Valentine widely conjuncts natal Sun and Mercury - SN`s Jupiter and Isis conjunct my natal Chiron in 4th house - SN`s Sun on my natal Kaali and DSC in the 7th house - SN`s Juno and 12th house cusp exactly on my natal Karma in 7th house IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 09:34 AM
" wish i could have clear sight of my past lives but i do feel like deep down i really don't either want to or don't need to or i'm not suppose to." "I also find, that I only find out what I am supposed to find out, exactly the time when I am meant to find it out. And now is such a period, where I have good access to those memories again." As i get older i'm sure things will be clearer. IQ did mention to me in the other thread that i am lucky to be aware of certain things before my Saturn return which will be in 2016 thats not really that far when i think about it. Also at some point next year T N.N will be conjunct my natal Sun and Pluto around 2013 i think will conjunct my MC. "And when I was maybe one or one and a half years old, I drowned in a swimming pool. I just had jumped into the water and drowned and at first my Dad couldn`t find me under water, but then all at once, I had just been laying over his arm, "as if someone had placed you there", he told me about that. Must have been a horror for my Mum, who can`t swim and has been seeing this from the edge of the pool. Especially since she had to witness her own brother drown and die, when he was about the same age as I was when I drowned. But I was lucky." As if you were saved..and for your mum that must of made painful memories to the surface...and to see that happening to her own at the time. Very lucky DD.
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 09:42 AM
AquaScorp,yes, those things will come to you in time, I`m sure. I can honestly say, that after the last two years I really had a quantum leap in awareness and acknowledgement of that awareness. I guess the Transit Neptune conjunct my Moon and Psyche, the Transit Pluto conjunct my Sun, Mercury, Merlin, Circe, Sekhmet (and whatever is there else on the GC, where my Sun is nearby) and the Transit of Chiron conjunct my Moon and trine my Karma and the Transiting Node conjunct my Psyche and Moon (Moon is also conjunct Ur, a Babylonian city, so no surprise I was made aware of my Babylonian life so clearly just now), wouldn`t have left anyone untouched. lol It really has been one wild ride, and Ì feel like this has only been the beginning.  IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 09:44 AM
MAybe I should have a look at my Mesopotamian, Babylonian, Sumerian, Chaldean or Ur-ian persona chart, too.  IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 09:46 AM
In my S.N chart Psyche 14'41 Libra conjuncts the S.N Sun 14'23 Libra The Sabian reads this " 14-15 deg Libra Circular Paths" ????????? Maybe im to repeat something in this life? a fulfilment maybe. and also trines my Natal Chiron, sextile Venus and Anubis. EDIT:Yes DD its coming to me slowly but surly 
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 09:53 AM
Yes, I would agree, something gets repeated.Or maybe it`s a warning not to move in "circles" and stagnate? I think both interpretations are possible with that Sabian. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 09:54 AM
Oh, wait, if it is in your SN chart it already has taken place. So either you fulfilled something important or you were meant to, but were going in circles. But probably the first interpretation is more fitting here. The Sabian of the SN Juno and the SN 12th house conjunct my Karma is:
A WOMAN ACTIVIST IN AN EMOTIONAL SPEECH IS EMPHASIZING HER CAUSE Now what is that supposed to mean? IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 10:10 AM
"Loyalty, fidelity, intimacy, monogamy, and the way you possess your partner or wish to be possessed fall under Juno's care. Juno also fosters promises between yourself and your partner, especially those made under the eyes of a Higher Power.Juno's shadow side presides over infidelity, divorce, codependence, financial dependence and spousal abuse. The darkest side of Juno is home to the woman harmed by her partner's hand, like Nicole Brown Simpson or Dorothy Stratten. Relinquishing total control of yourself and the relationship, or losing your identity, take Juno's example too far." Form: http://goddess.astrology.com/juno/index.html (divorce, codependence, financial dependence and spousal abuse) This part especially rings a bell. Maybe you were an activist for womens rights? and you were key to why women have come as far as they have now? Maybe a suffragette?
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Tigerlily Knowflake Posts: 392 From: somewhere far, far away Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 09, 2008 10:13 AM
I have a question about a persona chart vs. a Draconic chart or in this case, the S Node "Draconic" chart. Wouldn't it be the same as the Draconic, just opposite signs and houses?IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 10:14 AM
WEll, it would make sense as my True Black Moon Lilith is in Aquarius in 3rd house and Draco LIlith conjuncts my Karma and the SN`s Juno. lolIP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 10:18 AM
Well DD it seems that we have discovered a past life link for you. With Lilith also there i would say most likely yes. It just makes so much more sense now  IP: Logged |