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Topic: Izo - SN persona chart
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aquaspryt69 Knowflake Posts: 1606 From: Arizona Registered: Feb 2004
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posted December 09, 2008 10:24 AM
Hmm, can't seem to ever copy/paste any chart. grrr! Wow! these charts are very interesting! Thanks Izo and dd. I thought I was going crazy when I saw mine said Moon Persona Chart. 
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aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 10:27 AM
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sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 11:26 AM
my sn persona chart is boring. no intersting conjunctions or anything. my saturn persona chart is interesting though.where do you get the info on the asteroids for study? I thinik I would like to study and understand it better. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 12:12 PM
AquaScorp,interestingly I have a lot of "feminine" archetypes in Aquarius: Moon, Lilith, Psyche, Pallas, Hera. Also interesting, the one feminine archetypes that has very much relation to personal romantic relationships, Venus, is in Capricorn conjunct Isis and Osiris and square Pluto. Modifies the image a little bit, doesn`t it?  Sunshine, no conjunctions? Not even to the natal? There are several topics here on Lindaland dealing with asteroids. apart from that you can always rely on mythology; wikipedia is a good adress. Tigerlily, no, the SN persona chart and the Draco chart calculated with the SN wouldn`t be the same, as htey are calculated in different ways. In the Draco the distance between the planets stays the same. If oyu have a square between Venus and Pluto in the tropical, you will also have one in the Draco, just in different signs. You just move the SN to 00° Aries (for a SN-Draco-chart) and place all other planets in the same distance, as they have in tropical, and then you look if any of the Draco Planets hit your tropical ones. The persona charts are differently calculated. One assumes that the natal chart is only an expression of a potential, but to bring that potential to life there has to be a trigger. And now the theory sais that the Sun (as light-giver) will be that trigger or lightening up the planets. And it will be lightened up the moment, the Transit Sun will hit the exact point the planets are in the natal chart. And this day would give insights about the true nature of that planet; the Venus persona chart would give you insights about your attitude to relationships for example.
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 12:12 PM
AquaScorp,interestingly I have a lot of "feminine" archetypes in Aquarius: Moon, Lilith, Psyche, Pallas, Hera. Also interesting, the one feminine archetypes that has very much relation to personal romantic relationships, Venus, is in Capricorn conjunct Isis and Osiris and square Pluto. Modifies the image a little bit, doesn`t it?  Sunshine, no conjunctions? Not even to the natal? There are several topics here on Lindaland dealing with asteroids. apart from that you can always rely on mythology; wikipedia is a good adress. Tigerlily, no, the SN persona chart and the Draco chart calculated with the SN wouldn`t be the same, as htey are calculated in different ways. In the Draco the distance between the planets stays the same. If oyu have a square between Venus and Pluto in the tropical, you will also have one in the Draco, just in different signs. You just move the SN to 00° Aries (for a SN-Draco-chart) and place all other planets in the same distance, as they have in tropical, and then you look if any of the Draco Planets hit your tropical ones. The persona charts are differently calculated. One assumes that the natal chart is only an expression of a potential, but to bring that potential to life there has to be a trigger. And now the theory sais that the Sun (as light-giver) will be that trigger or lightening up the planets. And it will be lightened up the moment, the Transit Sun will hit the exact point the planets are in the natal chart. And this day would give insights about the true nature of that planet; the Venus persona chart would give you insights about your attitude to relationships for example.
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sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 12:36 PM
sn to natal - pluto conj uranus in virgo uranus cunjuct pluto in virgo amor and par fortunecunj asc. in gem reiki conj merc in sag valentin cunj mars in cap karma conj lust and karma 0 deg pisc chiron conj eros both in pisc. neptune conj neptune inscorp chiron conj chiron pisces 11th house anything interesting?
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 3423 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 12:39 PM
I'm happy with mine and you have some neat ones sunshine  IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 12:40 PM
like the chiron conj chiron in 11th, lust saturn chiron eros in 11th in pisces...does that suggest I didn't learn my life lesson last time around? pluto uranus both ways...in 5th house. both asc in taurus, both jupiter in 2ndvertex conj mars. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 12:48 PM
thanks lara! Not too sure what it means though. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 12:51 PM
Sunshine,I could imagine that these would be worth investigating: "pluto conj uranus in virgo" But it could be that those are generational. Do you have a Pluto-Uranus-conjunction natally? Generally the aspects of Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron will not change, as they are so slow moving. But it is interesting if they aspect personal planets or asteroids. "amor and par fortunecunj asc. in gem" A fortunate past love still influences your life? Since ASC is your step into that incarnation, maybe planets from the SN chart that aspect the natal ASC highlight the reason for your present incarnation? In this case it would have been a certain love that has urged you to reincarnate again. Or am I being too abstract now? "reiki conj. Merc" could be important. But I am not sure how to interprete it. Does Mercury rule an important house in your chart?
"valentin cunj mars in cap" Your perception of the ideal masculine (Mars) still carries memories (SN chart) of your true love. Maybe you have met your twinsoul in the last incarnation and that shaped your present ideal man? "karma conj lust and karma 0 deg pisc" Def. important. A past incarnation was very lustful I guess, and it seems to have spanned over more than just one incarnation, as Karma in the SN chart would give insights of the past of that past life. Confused?  "chiron conj eros both in pisc." An old wound is influencing your ways of experiencing the erotic? "eptune conj neptune inscorp chiron conj chiron pisces 11th house" generational.
EDIT: I think if there may be no or very little conjunctions from SN chart to natal chart, it could mean that the past life has no such tremendous influence on you as it has on other people. Which of course would give you a greater freedom, and maybe it would show that you`re here to start NEW things in this incarnation. Maybe it would be interesting to look at your North Node persona chart to see if there is more going on. I could imagine that if that is the case, that you have finished some old karma in the last life and that there are new tasks waiting for you.
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:03 PM
Here is my North Node chart. OUCH! 
That looks like work! IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3423 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:04 PM
me neither lolMaybe IQ will come along... IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3423 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:09 PM
God. I am doing my nn chart too DD and this guys chart date is same as my ex husbands birth date LOLIP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:13 PM
Lara,"Maybe IQ will come along" Mmh, I`d appreciate his opinions on this one, too. But no matter if he comes or not, I think we are well able to have our own thoughts, and they are as valuable as anyone else`s. (sais my Lilith in Aquarius in 3rd house ) I know what you mean about dates. The SN chart of someone who is important to me, falls on the exact birthday of a friend of mine; they even share the same ASC!  And it was, when she appeared in my life, that I started thinking about him again. lol
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 3423 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:19 PM
Yeah my ex and my current guy share the same AC too lol IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:21 PM
This is spooky with the same ASC`s, isn`t it? BTW "my guy" is from the NEtherlands, too, and his birthday is just one day before your NN-chart`s day (but different year). lolHowever, do you think if we compare the NN-charts of two persons we could see how their current life path interacts? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:22 PM
Well, to have the NN in a NN-chart on the DSC, isn`t it a bit too obvious?  IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 01:33 PM
DD IQ said the Galactic centre in 26 Sagittarius and the Super Galactic in 1 Libra. What sort of orb would be use here when looking for lets conjunctions from charts to any of these points? also what does it all mean really?IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 01:42 PM
interesting- nn has way more conjunctions amor / venus sun / true node jupiter / merc par fortune /valentine 22 degree cap eros / saturn amor / sun reiki / karma karma / asc 26 degeres taurus isis / pluto vertex / reiki ceres / kaali 2 degrees aries chiron / eros sun/ true node 12 degrees gem amor / jupiter IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4205 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:48 PM
Aqua, I have no idea, really. But I guess with an 1° orb we would be on the safe side. But I don`t relaly know what it means other than it is a "power-point" in the zodiac. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 01:52 PM
north node chart. comp w / natal IP: Logged |
aqua/scorp Knowflake Posts: 251 From: Middle Earth Registered: Jun 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 01:54 PM
DD Because i noticed some conjunctions. S.N Anubis conjuncts the Super Galactic Centre and my Natal Tut 0'3 Libra/Kleopatra 1'5 Libra also conjunct the SGC. I also have Venus/Neptune Midpoint 26'2 Sagittarius and Saturn/Neptune MP 27 Sag IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 01:57 PM
dd your theory is very interesting, I looked again at the sn persona chart and nothing much there, all the contact is in the nn persona chart. very interesting. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3423 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 02:13 PM
NN conjunctions ALL EXACT sun - NN/amor mercury - NN/amor venus - NN/amor NN/chiron pluto/moon chiron/venus vertex -isis/union isis/valentine DC - NN/amor SN conjunctions I have to post the table cos you won't believe it!!! lol It's like a huge line diagonally across it!
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sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1067 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted December 09, 2008 02:17 PM
is that to your natal or your significant other south node / your sn his nn your nn? synastry or natal ...you're so fast you confuse me.IP: Logged |