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aquaspryt69
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posted December 09, 2008 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaspryt69     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, can't seem to ever copy/paste any chart. grrr!

Wow! these charts are very interesting!

Thanks Izo and dd. I thought I was going crazy when I saw mine said Moon Persona Chart.


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posted December 09, 2008 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua/scorp     Edit/Delete Message
aquaspryt69
You have to host it. try http://www.2and2.net/

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sunshine_lion
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posted December 09, 2008 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
my sn persona chart is boring.
no intersting conjunctions or anything. my saturn persona chart is interesting though.

where do you get the info on the asteroids for study? I thinik I would like to study and understand it better.

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posted December 09, 2008 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
AquaScorp,

interestingly I have a lot of "feminine" archetypes in Aquarius: Moon, Lilith, Psyche, Pallas, Hera.

Also interesting, the one feminine archetypes that has very much relation to personal romantic relationships, Venus, is in Capricorn conjunct Isis and Osiris and square Pluto. Modifies the image a little bit, doesn`t it?

Sunshine,

no conjunctions? Not even to the natal?

There are several topics here on Lindaland dealing with asteroids. apart from that you can always rely on mythology; wikipedia is a good adress.

Tigerlily,

no, the SN persona chart and the Draco chart calculated with the SN wouldn`t be the same, as htey are calculated in different ways.

In the Draco the distance between the planets stays the same. If oyu have a square between Venus and Pluto in the tropical, you will also have one in the Draco, just in different signs.

You just move the SN to 00° Aries (for a SN-Draco-chart) and place all other planets in the same distance, as they have in tropical, and then you look if any of the Draco Planets hit your tropical ones.


The persona charts are differently calculated.
One assumes that the natal chart is only an expression of a potential, but to bring that potential to life there has to be a trigger.
And now the theory sais that the Sun (as light-giver) will be that trigger or lightening up the planets.
And it will be lightened up the moment, the Transit Sun will hit the exact point the planets are in the natal chart.
And this day would give insights about the true nature of that planet; the Venus persona chart would give you insights about your attitude to relationships for example.

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posted December 09, 2008 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
AquaScorp,

interestingly I have a lot of "feminine" archetypes in Aquarius: Moon, Lilith, Psyche, Pallas, Hera.

Also interesting, the one feminine archetypes that has very much relation to personal romantic relationships, Venus, is in Capricorn conjunct Isis and Osiris and square Pluto. Modifies the image a little bit, doesn`t it?

Sunshine,

no conjunctions? Not even to the natal?

There are several topics here on Lindaland dealing with asteroids. apart from that you can always rely on mythology; wikipedia is a good adress.

Tigerlily,

no, the SN persona chart and the Draco chart calculated with the SN wouldn`t be the same, as htey are calculated in different ways.

In the Draco the distance between the planets stays the same. If oyu have a square between Venus and Pluto in the tropical, you will also have one in the Draco, just in different signs.

You just move the SN to 00° Aries (for a SN-Draco-chart) and place all other planets in the same distance, as they have in tropical, and then you look if any of the Draco Planets hit your tropical ones.


The persona charts are differently calculated.
One assumes that the natal chart is only an expression of a potential, but to bring that potential to life there has to be a trigger.
And now the theory sais that the Sun (as light-giver) will be that trigger or lightening up the planets.
And it will be lightened up the moment, the Transit Sun will hit the exact point the planets are in the natal chart.
And this day would give insights about the true nature of that planet; the Venus persona chart would give you insights about your attitude to relationships for example.

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posted December 09, 2008 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
sn to natal -
pluto conj uranus in virgo
uranus cunjuct pluto in virgo
amor and par fortunecunj asc. in gem
reiki conj merc in sag
valentin cunj mars in cap
karma conj lust and karma 0 deg pisc
chiron conj eros both in pisc.
neptune conj neptune inscorp
chiron conj chiron pisces 11th house


anything interesting?

i am so interested in this.

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Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I'm happy with mine and you have some neat ones sunshine

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posted December 09, 2008 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
like the chiron conj chiron in 11th, lust saturn chiron eros in 11th in pisces...does that suggest I didn't learn my life lesson last time around? pluto uranus both ways...in 5th house. both asc in taurus, both jupiter in 2nd

vertex conj mars.

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posted December 09, 2008 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
thanks lara! Not too sure what it means though.

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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Sunshine,

I could imagine that these would be worth investigating:

"pluto conj uranus in virgo"
But it could be that those are generational. Do you have a Pluto-Uranus-conjunction natally?
Generally the aspects of Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron will not change, as they are so slow moving. But it is interesting if they aspect personal planets or asteroids.

"amor and par fortunecunj asc. in gem"
A fortunate past love still influences your life?
Since ASC is your step into that incarnation, maybe planets from the SN chart that aspect the natal ASC highlight the reason for your present incarnation?
In this case it would have been a certain love that has urged you to reincarnate again. Or am I being too abstract now?


"reiki conj. Merc"
could be important. But I am not sure how to interprete it. Does Mercury rule an important house in your chart?

"valentin cunj mars in cap"
Your perception of the ideal masculine (Mars) still carries memories (SN chart) of your true love. Maybe you have met your twinsoul in the last incarnation and that shaped your present ideal man?

"karma conj lust and karma 0 deg pisc"
Def. important. A past incarnation was very lustful I guess, and it seems to have spanned over more than just one incarnation, as Karma in the SN chart would give insights of the past of that past life. Confused?

"chiron conj eros both in pisc."
An old wound is influencing your ways of experiencing the erotic?


"eptune conj neptune inscorp
chiron conj chiron pisces 11th house"
generational.

EDIT:
I think if there may be no or very little conjunctions from SN chart to natal chart, it could mean that the past life has no such tremendous influence on you as it has on other people. Which of course would give you a greater freedom, and maybe it would show that you`re here to start NEW things in this incarnation.

Maybe it would be interesting to look at your North Node persona chart to see if there is more going on.

I could imagine that if that is the case, that you have finished some old karma in the last life and that there are new tasks waiting for you.


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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Here is my North Node chart.


OUCH!

That looks like work!

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Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
me neither lol

Maybe IQ will come along...

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posted December 09, 2008 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
God. I am doing my nn chart too DD and this guys chart date is same as my ex husbands birth date LOL

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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

"Maybe IQ will come along"
Mmh, I`d appreciate his opinions on this one, too.
But no matter if he comes or not, I think we are well able to have our own thoughts, and they are as valuable as anyone else`s.
(sais my Lilith in Aquarius in 3rd house )


I know what you mean about dates.
The SN chart of someone who is important to me, falls on the exact birthday of a friend of mine; they even share the same ASC!
And it was, when she appeared in my life, that I started thinking about him again. lol

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posted December 09, 2008 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message

Yeah my ex and my current guy share the same AC too lol

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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
This is spooky with the same ASC`s, isn`t it?
BTW "my guy" is from the NEtherlands, too, and his birthday is just one day before your NN-chart`s day (but different year). lol

However, do you think if we compare the NN-charts of two persons we could see how their current life path interacts?

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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Well, to have the NN in a NN-chart on the DSC, isn`t it a bit too obvious?

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aqua/scorp
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posted December 09, 2008 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua/scorp     Edit/Delete Message
DD IQ said the Galactic centre in 26 Sagittarius and the Super Galactic in 1 Libra. What sort of orb would be use here when looking for lets conjunctions from charts to any of these points? also what does it all mean really?

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posted December 09, 2008 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
interesting-
nn has way more conjunctions
amor / venus
sun / true node
jupiter / merc
par fortune /valentine 22 degree cap
eros / saturn
amor / sun
reiki / karma
karma / asc 26 degeres taurus
isis / pluto vertex / reiki
ceres / kaali 2 degrees aries
chiron / eros
sun/ true node 12 degrees gem
amor / jupiter

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posted December 09, 2008 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Aqua,

I have no idea, really. But I guess with an 1° orb we would be on the safe side.
But I don`t relaly know what it means other than it is a "power-point" in the zodiac.

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posted December 09, 2008 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
north node chart. comp w / natal

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posted December 09, 2008 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua/scorp     Edit/Delete Message
DD Because i noticed some conjunctions. S.N Anubis conjuncts the Super Galactic Centre and my Natal Tut 0'3 Libra/Kleopatra 1'5 Libra also conjunct the SGC.

I also have Venus/Neptune Midpoint 26'2 Sagittarius and Saturn/Neptune MP 27 Sag

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posted December 09, 2008 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
dd your theory is very interesting, I looked again at the sn persona chart and nothing much there, all the contact is in the nn persona chart. very interesting.

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Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
NN conjunctions
ALL EXACT
sun - NN/amor
mercury - NN/amor
venus - NN/amor
NN/chiron
pluto/moon
chiron/venus
vertex -isis/union
isis/valentine
DC - NN/amor


SN conjunctions
I have to post the table cos you won't believe it!!! lol
It's like a huge line diagonally across it!

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posted December 09, 2008 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
is that to your natal or your significant other south node / your sn
his nn your nn?
synastry or natal ...you're so fast you confuse me.

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