posted December 12, 2008 08:40 PM         

Eris? I would think Mars aspects.
I would think serious trouble-making might be Mars squaring the Sun, or Pluto.

posted December 12, 2008 09:53 PM           

Also Eris is in my 5th house, in Aries..trine my moon.

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

posted December 12, 2008 09:56 PM         

I believe that standing up for one's rights and the rights of others for equality,acceptance/tolerance of diversity is a positive of Eris. Advocates who have done that were often seen as controversial and even as troublemakers by people that wanted things to stay the way they are even though there was intolerance of diversity and lack of equal rights.

I have been seen as troublemaker for my talking about misdiagnosing neurodivergents as having serious psychiatric disorders and the issues of racism in psychiatry which lead many blacks to have problems trusting psychiatry. I believe that reform needs to be done in psychiatry. I believe that both mandatory neurological and psychological testing should be done to differentiate neurodivergent conditions from serious psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia,bipolar. I also believe that cultural sensitivity needs to be addressed.

I have also been criticized and slammed for talking race relations issues here in USA.

none of these things is to start trouble but an attempt to raise awareness,understanding of the problem. I don't believe that ignorance is bliss nor do I like hypocrisy. I want to help close the gap between things that divide us. After all,I was born from diversity. I've been around it all my life.

As a neurodivergent(Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHD) born to an interracial couple (black father,white mother)who both were neurodivergent as well my own preference for interracial relationships as well as my belief in neurodiversity, I am not afraid to point out,confront and address these issues.

I do believe in both women's rights and gay rights too. I believe women should have equal pay,and I am a member of National Organization of Women and donate monthly to the Equality Action Fund. I voted NO on proposition 8 that would ban gay marriage because I believe that gay marriage is a civil right. I'd be ****** if interracial marriage rights were banned like they were until 4 years before I was born. I am ****** for gays that they can't marry their same sex partners.

I believe that self righteous religious hypocrisy is a big problem here in USA,and I am not afraid to talk about that issue. I believe that self righteous hypocrisy is a big issue here in USA period.

I have Eris in 12'15 Aries R in 8th
conjunct Africano in 12'38 Aries R in 8th
conjunct Africa in 11'15 Aries R in 8th
conjunct Chiron in 10'32 Aries R in 8th
trine Ceres in 13'57 Leo in 11th
trine Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd
sextile Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius in 5th/Leo in 11th
sextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
quincunx Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo
biquintile Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd - '06
conjunct Vertex/Midheaven midpoint - '51
conjunct Node/Midheaven midpoint - 1'23
oppose Jupiter/Ceres midpoint - 1'07
square Moon/Venus midpoint - '14
square Ceres/Midheaven midpoint - '20
semisquare Venus/Neptune midpoint - '27
sesquiquadrate Mercury/Saturn midpoint - '30
sesquiquadrate Node/Ascendant midpoint - '16

I also have a conjunction of the South Eris Node in 5'30 Scorpio,True Black Moon Lilith(Lunar Apogee) in 5'42 Scorpio,and Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd. That also means that the Sun is oppose my North Eris Node and Lunar Perigree in Taurus in 8th.
This could could indicate that I have strong karmic issues involving diversity,equality,feminine matters in regards to security,shared resources.

Raymond

posted December 12, 2008 10:30 PM         

I think that it's more about Eris. I believe that astrologers assigned some of Eris' characteristics to Uranus because Uranus was discovered long before Eris was. They have assigned characteristics to other planets in past and have assigned them to outer planets, Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto as well as even Chiron which is one of many fellow centaurs. Pluto is one of many kuiper belt objects.

Astrology has really diverged from Astronomy since the Discovery of Uranus. Astrologers differ in their views,and there is a lot of disagreement about what methods to use. I believe that it's better to agree to disagree. It would be nice if astrologers even think of other astrological systems as equal and not viewing them as inferior,inaccurate,nor nonsense. Like I said before, not only is their discord among astronomers but discord among astrologers.

I feel that all this relates to Eris which I believe rules Astrology along with Uranus. Astrology is a controversial subject in mainstream society.

Many astrologers think of Uranus as stirring stuff up,controversy, and even one astrologer contributed racism to Uranus,but I am convinced that is Eris.

I believe that Eris has to do with divergence,diversity more than Uranus does. Wars are fought because of differences in views,opinions,and beliefs. People fought others that are different from them.
People had that "you're wrong and I am right" mentality, and I see that going on in regards to morals,ethics,religion,politics,education,scientific fields,relationships,the food that we eat...I hate to say,but I see it in Astrology too. Even Steven Forrest who has a close Moon-Eris conjunction says that there is a Tower of Babel going on among astrologers,and he pointed out that the idea of one true Astrology is a myth and destructive. It's often thinking that one is better than the other which can lead to to superiority-inferiority issues. This is what can lead to equal/civil rights issues. Then people feel the need to stand up for themselves and fight for their rights. They end up being advocates which astrologers assign to Uranus. I think that advocacy and activism are mixed up. I think activism is more linked to wanting to get changes made and even progress. It can even be independence to some degree. Abolutionism would seem like Uranus, but the whole slavery thing is based on ideology leading to the superiority-inferiority issues.

Dr. Michael E. Brown, a professor of planetary astronomy at the California Institute of Technology who discovered the distant ball of ice and rock that he nicknamed Xena and that had been designated 2003 UB313, chose the name Eris, after the goddess of discord and strife in Greek mythology.
“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.
In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.
“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://tech.mit.edu/V126/N38/38shorts2.html

Don't many people do that on our planet today? Of course they do, this has been going on for centuries,millenniums. Many arguments,fights,battles,and wars(including civil and world wars) have occurred because of intolerance of people's differences in some form or another.

It seems all about ideology,diversity,equality matters in general. Eris can be about "-isms"

Intolerance of diversity is the greatest problem on our planet.

Even consider it's orbit. Uranus' orbit eccentricity is 0.044 405 586, but Eris' orbit eccentrity is 0.441 77. Therefore, Eris' orbit is more eccentric than Uranus' orbit. It would be logical to think that Eris more eccentric than Uranus in its astrology. Uranus orbital inclination is 0.772 556°, but Eris orbit is 44.187°. Eris' orbit is more inclined. Uranus' orbit mean anomaly is 142.955 717°,but Eris' orbit mean anomaly is 197.634 27°. Eris' orbit is more of an anomaly than Uranus. Conclusion of Eris being more of an anomaly than Uranus in regards to Astrological characteristics makes sense to me. Uranus travels on the ecliptic like all the other planets do,and it's in the constellation of Aquarius right now. Eris travels far off the ecliptic plane,and is in the the constellation of Cetus which is not one of the zodiac constellations. Uranus doesn't have a highly elliptical orbit like Eris does. Unlike Uranus,Eris is a scattered disk object. Of course, Eris is far smaller than Uranus,but larger than Pluto. Eris is a lot more divergent than Uranus can ever be. Eris doesn't fit in with the other planets just like the mythological Eris didn't fit in with the major Greek deities. Therefore it makes perfect sense for me to consider divergence and diversity can be keywords for Eris.

Pluto got to be classed as a planet for over 40 years, but larger Eris didn't get to be classed as a planet, and that mirrors how mythological Eris was a minor goddess who wasn't invited to the wedding of King Peleus and Thetis who were the parents of Achilles who fought in the Trojan War. She was being discriminated against because she was this bad nasty goddess who caused trouble. However, even the major gods/goddesses weren't all innocent. They were known for causing a lot of trouble and being nasty and cruel to mortals and to each other. How can Eris exclusion for being a troublemaker be justified? Certainly,Ares,the God of War, was a nasty,cruel troublemaker,and he was included in the wedding. To me, Eris' throwing the golden apple not only exposed the petty vanities of the goddesses, but also showed how they were a bunch of hypocrites that weren't perfect. Paris awarded the golden apple to Aphrodite who was so promiscuous and didn't care about her own marriage vows with Hephaestus,getting it on with Ares as well as other gods and even mortals like Anchises(father of her son,Aeneas who fought in Trojan War,mythical ancestor of Rome),she promised Paris, the most beautiful woman in the world,Helen, but she was married to King Menelaus of Sparta. I would think that would make Aphrodite a troublemaker and just as dishonorable as Eris. She was held in high regard because of her great beauty,being the Goddess of Beauty and not just Love. Eris was the ugly goddess,and so didn't get a free ride like Aphrodite did. Of course, Aphrodite was far more attracted to the handsome vain,cruel,bloodthirsty Ares than to his ugly hardworking,humble,good-natured brother Hephaestus. To me, Eris can be seen as somebody who is "ugly" but who exposing the ugliness and hypocrisy of people who are "beautiful." To put it bluntly, Eris can be about showing a person who thinks his/her crap doesn't stink really does stink.
Eris doesn't seem to care about the status quo which is based on the majority of what people think is right and what is wrong just like rules and laws which aren't always fair and just. Eris seems to challenge the self-righteousness of others and expose their hypocrisy.

Because of the discovery of Eris', Pluto was demoted to minor planet just like Ceres had been demoted to minor planet. Now Ceres and Pluto are now equals for they are both assigned minor planet numbers and classed as dwarf planets. That's because of the discovery of Eris. Just think how Pluto/Hades and Ceres/Demeter shared time with Proserpina/Persephone in Roman/Greek mythology.
Proserpina/Persephone was away from Hades/Pluto for half of the year to be with her mother,Demeter/Ceres.

This is what Eris' co-discover said in reference to naming Eris when it was just nicknamed Xena.
"Interestingly, there are no actual rules for how to name a planet (presumably because no one expected there to be more). All of the other planets are named for Greek or Roman gods, so an obvious suggestion is to attempt to find such a name for the new planet. Unfortunately, most of the Greek or Roman god names (particularly those associated with creation, which tend to be the major gods) were used back when the first asteroids were being discovered. If a name is already taken by an asteroid, the IAU would not allow that name to be used again. One such particularly apt name would have been Persephone. In Greek mythology Persephone is the (forcibly abducted) wife of Hades (Roman Pluto) who spends six months each year underground close to Hades. The new planet is on an orbit that could be described in similar terms; half of the time it is in the vicinity of Pluto and half of the time much further away. Sadly, the name Persephone was used in 1895 as a name for the 399th known asteroid. The perhaps more appropriate Roman version of the name, Proserpina, was used even earlier for the 26th known asteroid. The same story can be told for almost any other Greek or Roman god of any consequence. One exception to this name depletion is the Roman god Vulcan (Greek Haphaestus), the god of fire. Astronomers have long reserved that term, however, for a once hypothetical (now known to be nonexistent) planet closer to the sun than Mercury (god of fire, near the sun, good name). We would not want to use such a name to describe such a cold body as our new planet!" http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/

posted December 12, 2008 10:32 PM         

Uranus discovery chart:
March 13, 1781
Bath,England
12:00 PM..not sure of actual time

Mercury in 11'10 Aries
Eris in 13'54 Capricorn
(The Mercury square Eris could relate to perceptions linked to Eris that helped Uranus be discovered which lead to causing disorder in organization of perceptions of the old solar system just like Eris' discovery led to disorder in organization of perceptions of what constitutes a planet leading to Pluto being demoted from major planet to minor planet,and made equals with Ceres with both Pluto and Ceres being classed as dwarf planets. This aspect could be about divergent,diverse communications,mental activity,ideas.)

I have Mercury in 3rd biquintile Eris with 6 minutes of arc myself. The biquintile is a 5th harmonic aspect devised by astronomer/astrologer,Johannes Kepler,and it relates to creativity. I believe that it fits with my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD(they tend to be comorbid) which has a lot to do with neurodivergence,thinking, outside the box,seeing things from other perspectives. I think that this is also reflected by Eris aspecting both my Mercury-ruled angles. It sextile my Gemini Midheaven with 1'01 orb and quincunx my Virgo Ascendant with 1'12 orb. I even have Eris/Node midpoint in Virgo square my Midheaven in Gemini with 8 minutes of arc and Eris semisquare Mercury/Saturn midpoint with 30 minutes of arc. There is a very strong Mercury-Eris theme in my chart. All this a mere coincidence. I don't think so. It's more like synchronicity to me.

I checked to see if any connections to Geocentric Eris Nodes as well as Heliocentric Nodes

Venus in 2'21 Pisces
sextile North Eris Node in 2'21 Taurus
trine South Eris Node in 3'39 Scorpio
sextile/trine Heliocentric Nodes in 2'34 Taurus/Scorpio
This could be values,love,relationships connected to the collective issues of diversity,discord,equal rights
(so Uranus Discovery chart's Venus trines South Eris Node and sextiles the North Eris Node
note: The Eris North Node is sextile its dispositor,Venus...so a double whammy of Eris Node-Venus.)

I checked the Heliocentic Chart (After all..there is such thing as heliocentric Astrology...Philip Sedgwick has a book on it called Sun At The Center..I have that book too)

Heliocentric Mercury in 2'00 Cancer
sextile/trine Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 2'34 Scorpio
(This could be communications,mental activity,ideas that are connected to the collective issues of diversity,discord,equal rights)
Heliocentric Mercury is also the dispositor of the Heliocentric North Uranus Node in 12'50 Gemini

Heliocentric Mars in 13'26 Scorpio
sextile Heliocentric Eris in 12'44 Capricorn
(this could be activity that is diverse,divergent)

Heliocentric Eris also squares its own Perihelion/Aphelion in 11'50 Libra/Aries

I checked to see connections to Eris Perigree/Apogee axis

Perigree:The point nearest the Earth in the orbit of a planet or other celestial body.

Apogee: The point furthest from the Earth in the orbit of a planet or other celestial body.

Mercury is in 11'10 aries
Eris Apogee is in 11'40 aries
Eris Perigree is in 12'18 libra

So Mercury is aspected to not only Eris but Eris perigree/apogee axis and Heliocentric Mercury aspected to Heliocentric Eris Nodes suggesting that Uranus is connected to Eris and that astrologers were picking up on Erisian energy in Uranus and assigning some characteristics to Uranus that actually belong to Eris.

Could it be that the discovery of Uranus that ended up causing controversy,chaos in regards to view of the solar system which also ended up turning astrologers into not only minorities and outcasts from the academic,science fields but also created diversity,divergence in Astrology(for instance,some astrologers don't use the outerplanets and think that's the only right way to do Astrology) is linked to Eris? I believe that's the case. I believe that Eris could be co-ruler of Astrology along with Uranus.

another thing.......

if you check Eris' Perihelion/Aphelion axis and Heliocentric Uranus Nodes today

Perihelion - the point of a body's orbit that is closest to the Sun

Aphelion - the point of a body's orbit that is farthest from the Sun

you will find...

Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 14'46 Libra/Aries
trine Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 14'05 Gemini/Sagittarius

They move very slowly...far slower than outer planets. They don't even move a degree in a century

The Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis and Heliocentric Uranus are always trine each other. They are very much connected. That means that the energy of Eris and Uranus are connected to each other too.

If you check the day that Uranus was discovered....

Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis in 11'50 Libra/Aries
trine Heliocentric Uranus Nodes in 12'50 Gemini/Sagittarius

as you see, the Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis and Heliocentric Uranus Nodes were trine each other like they still do.

Astrologers don't need to depend on the name of an object to find meaning to it. They can use orbital and physical features for clues. Astronomically-oriented astrologers like Philip Sedgwick,Juan Revilla make that point.

posted December 12, 2008 11:00 PM           

I've read some of your recent stuff here and wow not much change you have this force in your writing, and can analyze it to the degree which i pass over some of it because my own ADHD skims, talking about your disfunction, psycho social inequalities etc, but bro.. there is no more need for that. you are a brilliant guy, get to the point. Then if someone asks for more details you give it. Otherwise you are feeding the full.

have you turned this passion of astrology into work and dollars? hope so by now.

posted December 12, 2008 11:08 PM           

Aries-Moon (in 8th) opposing Libra-Mars (in 2nd house, related to self-worth)

Most of all, he had his Pluto and Uranus in close conjunction (in 12th/conjunct his ASC) - opposing his Saturn in 6th, cj his DSC.

Both oppositions are really difficult to deal with, for other people. Especially the stressful ASC-DSC-axis, of course.

posted December 12, 2008 11:11 PM         

I wanted to make a point that Eris isn't necessarily a troublemaker even though it can be perceived as one by others.

I believe the tolerance and acceptance of diversity,equal rights, positive advocacy can be positive manifestations of Eris.

That was my main point.

I think my t-square of Neptune in 3rd conjunct Jupiter in 3rd oppose Saturn in Gemini in 9th squared Moon in Pisces in 6th as well as Mercury parallel Neptune,and Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint can indicate misunderstandings when I communicate things. I think that I tend to get taken the wrong way. This happened a bit in my relationships with people.

I think that people should be able to communicate about experiences in their lives that are in synchronicity(note...I don't believe in cause and effect in Astrology) with a planetary placement/aspect without being misunderstood.....let alone being lectured.

posted December 12, 2008 11:46 PM         

I use 5 degree orb for all the major aspects except for sextile which I assign a 3 degree orb for as well as 1 1/2 degree orb for semisextile,quincunx,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,and biquintile

just like Robert Hand recommended in his book HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS.

I used those orbs because I use midpoints and other minor aspects. I use 1 1/2 degree for direct midpoints(conjunction,opposition) and 1 degree for indirect midpoints(square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate like Robert Hand suggested. I don't use the 22.5 aspects like the uranian astrologers use.

I also use 1 degree orb for direct midpoint-midpoint configurations with more focus one ones that are 30 minutes of arc. Those are one of the methods Uranian Astrologers,Magi Astrologers, and David Cochrane(creator of Kepler astrology software) use.

I prefer a more geometrical based system on Astrology, and so I use the aforementioned things. I don't like to put much emphasis on signs and houses. I would like to have charts where there are no signs or houses but just listing of degrees,minutes. There is a 360 degree dial that can be used. It doesn't have signs nor houses.

I thought about using Right Ascension and Declinations in Astrology like astronomers use to locate celestial objects.

I included Eris,Sedna,true Black Moon Lilith,Ceres,and Vertex as extra points besides the regular planets.

here are the interpretations of my strong Mercury-Neptune theme stuff. They are from Kepler,and they are dead on. I do believe that there can be issues of being misunderstood. I have a history of also not expressing myself clearly as well as can be vague. I have problems communicating in short words without clearly expressing what I mean. Therefore, I elaborate on what I am communicating about,and so I give lengthy explanations. That's why my posts tend to be long. I also want to cover any questions that people might ask..especially if they want me to clarify. I also do it because I want to show that I have a grasp of what I am talking about. I even have problems responding to demand language. I am not the type of person that can answer questions when called upon. I need time to think before I can answer because I have a nonlinear mind that thinks mainly in pictures,visualizing things in my minds eye nonstop. Verbal thinking is secondary type of thinking for me. I need to associate words with pictures to understand words.

Neptune in 3rd:
Daydreaming, lack of concentration, and inattention to your surroundings can be problems for you. Your mind tends to wander unless you are using it in an imaginative, creative way. Dry facts and cold logic hold no appeal for you, and unless a subject has a colorful or personally inspiring element, you won't stick with it for long. You have a sensitive, intuitive bent.

Mercury parallel Neptune - '33
Your mind does not function in a linear, logical manner and you are often unable to express your thoughts in simple, everyday language. Symbols, images, art, or music better express your ideas. Flights of imagination and fantasy carry you into strange and beautiful worlds, and you could develop the ability to transcribe some of your perceptions to share with others, for example, by writing fantasy, fiction, lyrics, or poetry. You are sensitive to nuances and possess intuitive or psychic gifts, but you may become confused between imagination and true perception. You have a strong mystical and idealistic bent, and have difficulty concentrating your attention on practical or mundane activities. You are strongly attracted to metaphysical and spiritual topics.

Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint - '14
You are very intuitive and imaginative. While others often need scientific proof, you very often prefer to trust your intuition. You also have a good appreciation for poetry and literature. Any subject that is taught in a dry, formal, unimaginative manner bores you, and, as an adult, you may consider yourself, very inept in various subject areas only because they were presented to you in a very dry manner when you were young. Sometimes your imagination and your inclination to create fantasies or fictional stories can make it difficult for you to concentrate on studies, disinclining you to throw yourself wholeheartedly into academics.

Mars square Mercury/Neptune midpoint - '54
You have exceptional ability in some areas and are rather weak in others. At an early age it is possible that you developed a fear of some technical and scientific areas, which would be unfortunate because actually you can be competent in these areas. You are very good at picking up on fine nuances of meaning in literature, poetry, and art. You have a very imaginative and creative mind, but you can become confused if overloaded with too much information at one time.

posted December 13, 2008 12:22 AM         

nope

I have a history of writing poetry, teaching myself in jr high school. I had an interest in writing song lyrics.
I especially wrote poetry for females that I was interested in. When I am in love, I can be inspired and write a poem,do an art project.

I made a valentines day card for my exgirlfriend(she and I happened to make similar Valentines Day cards. We both cut out red hearts and pasted on white paper and put gold glitter around the red heart. She and I didn't tell each other
that we were making these type of projects.

The Valentine that I made for her...I added special effects to make it look modern. I put the paper on a Red Blind as background. I put real roses through it with one on over the top. I was trying to be creative. http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/Raymond%20and%20Meghann/ValentinesDay .jpg

here is her Valentine's Day. I like the dogs that she would send me in her hallmark cards. She is very artistic,creative person. http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/Raymond%20and%20Meghann/Valent ineFromMeghann.jpg

I also made her an anniversary card to reflect how she and I met in an Astrology chatroom. I wrote Happy Anniversary,Meghann in the form of red stars among white starshttp://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/Raymond%20and%20Meghan n/HappyAnniversaryMeghann.jpg

I have Mercury-Venus-Neptune parallel.

I am also very softspoken, and I have been told numerous times that I sound like Michael Jackson when I talk. I have been mistaken for being gay because of that. The good thing is that people tend to easily know that I am a very mildmannered,gentle,good-natured person because of it. My mother told me that my father was more softspoken than I was. He was a very mildmannered,gentle,good-natured type too. He had a history of communication problems like me. I believe the speech problems are from problems coordinating my speech. I also tend to mumble and my speaking can be rapid,rambling,tangential,loose,and disorganized which got mistaken for psychotic type speech by psychiatrists. That type of speech is called cluttering. My mother told me that father had that type of speech too.

I have been told that I have a good singing voice,but I am very shy. I have problems speaking in front of people. I even tend to stutter a little when I am nervous. My mom told me that my father stuttered badly when he was around people that he didn't know.

it's weird. I am so much like my fellow Pisces Moon father,but I never knew him. I am strong believer in genetics. I believe that they can be in synchronicity with similar astrological placements/aspects. Therefore, I believe in astrogenetics. I believe that midpoints,harmonic aspects might help with understanding astrogenetics more than signs,house placements do.
I am not sure that mainstream Astrology is good for looking at astrogenetics.

posted December 13, 2008 12:49 AM           

But for some reason thought you are a musician or singer.

Interesting both your gf and you hearts are so similar! What is her sign?

posted December 13, 2008 12:56 AM         

here is the chart of my mother

Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio. Even her Sun is in 12th house trine Neptune,and so similar to Sun in Pisces. Her father had Moon in Pisces and Sun quintile Neptune. She has Sun-Neptune-Pluto minor grand trine with 3 corresponding Sun-Neptune-Pluto midpoint pictures. She has Mercury-Venus-Uranus square Neptune in 5th too.

I also want to point out that just because a person has low earth doesn't necessarily mean that he/she is not grounded,practical.

I also want to point out that a person with strong earth influence doesn't necessarily mean that he/she is not grounded,practical.
My father had Sun-Mercury in Capricorn Jupiter-Saturn(both stationary) in Taurus along with Uranus in Taurus and stationary Neptune in Virgo. I never knew him because he had drug problems,and so I made an oath to never use drugs. I have kept that oath. He was out of my life when I was a year old. He was anything but grounded,practical. My mother was a lot more grounded,practical than him. She could use tools and my father couldn't because he was awkward with his hands like I am,and so he had some fine motor skill issues like I do. From what my mom told me, he seemed more immature than her even though he was 13 years older than her. He was far more idealistic,goodnatured than my mom. My mom told me that she would talk bad about somebody,and my father advised her "Don't do that. God wouldn't want you doing that". On Halloween,hey took me home a few days after I was born. My father got candy and gave it to all the children in the apt complex. My mom told me that he believed in unity and universal love like me. Before I got into Astrology, I felt that I believed in unity and universal love because of my multiracial,multicultural background. I didn't know about my Moon in Pisces square Neptune in Sagittarius. His Pisces Moon and stationary Neptune seemed to dominate over the strong Earth that he had. He had Capricorn Sun/Pisces Moon combo like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. who I greatly admired for his preaching about unity and universal love. I always believed in his dream. Is it any wonder that my parents met in San Francisco,and I was born there. I was born in a city known for its liberalism and openmindedness in 1971. It's the perfect place for an interracial couple to meet each other in 1970,and for me to be born in 1971. Like my mother, I believe that everything happens for a reason. My greatest karmic lessons are about tolerance,acceptance of others as well as unconditional love. I believe my special education experiences were major lessons involving that. My special education past is the greatest factor in how I believe in treating people like I want to be treated - a fellow human being with a soul. I see all experiences as lessons to be learned and can help with soul evolution and spiritual growth.

but yeah...those are reasons why I don't put much focus on zodiac signs,house placements. I focus more on geometry. Aspects can dominate over sign placements. I believing the same about narrow orbed midpoint pictures too....especially the direct midpoint pictures.

here is his chart using solar chart. I don't have his birthtime.

posted December 13, 2008 01:52 AM         

I know some neurodivergents that are into metaphysical activities, and can pretty much relate to the Indigo stuff.

I was romantically involved with a metaphysically oriented neurodivergent(Dyslexic,ADHD) woman who worked with special education needs children and now works with adults with adults with mental handicaps. That's what really attracted me to her.

Here is my exgf's chart.

Her Ascendant in 13'43 Pisces oppose my Ascendant in 13'27 Pisces,and they contraparallel with 6 minutes of arc.....so Ascendant-Ascendant occultation. Her Venus 13'24 Taurus trines my Ascendant.

The intuitive connection could be my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in her 12th trine her Moon in 1'24 Scorpio in 7th/8th. Her stationary Neptune is in my 4th...so we have Moon-Neptune mutual house reception. Her Sun,Mercury,and Mars are in my 8th. My Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in her 8th with my Sun conjunct her Moon.

her Moon also forms a boomerang with my yod of Sedna,Neptune,Pluto. Her Moon conjuncts my Neptune/Pluto midpoint with 4 minutes of arc and conjuncts my Mercury/Uranus with 25 minutes of arc.

Eris sextile Ascendant with 7 minutes of arc is the closest aspect in our composite chart. I would say that along with Eris oppose North Lunar Node-Pluto in Libra in 5th,trine Descendant-Neptune in Sagittarius in 7th house,and sextile Venus in 8th/9th indicates our interracial relationship in regards to Eris having to do with diversity matters. http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/compositechart.gif

unfortunately, she broke up with me because her mom is a man-hating feminist because of my exgf's father screwed her over. therefore,she doesn't want her two daughters being with men. My exgf feels that she is the only person that can be there for her mom. She told me all this too. She pretty much let her mom dictate her life and relationships. She even told me that her mom kinda sees her as not being adult yet. She can't let go of her daughters. She even says that she's happy if her mom is happy. You can see all this from her her Moon-Saturn-Pluto in 7th house which sextiles her stationary Neptune-North Lunar Node-Midheaven.

Her Venus in Taurus in 2nd square Ceres in 12th can indicate lovelife in friction with mother life. My Ceres in Leo forms a t-square with that. So bigtime mother issues.

The breakup occured when transiting Ceres in Gemini in my 9th square transiting Saturn in Virgo in my 12th formed a grand cross with my Moon in Pisces in 6th and Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd.

Her mother's lunar nodes happen to be on our Venus-Saturn opposition in our composite chart which suggests karmic issues between our relationship and her mother. Her mother's North Lunar Node in 17'33 Leo conjunct our Composite Saturn in 18'56 Leo. Her South Lunar Node in 17'33 Aquarius conjunct our composite Venus in 17'35 Aquarius. That's only 2 minutes of arc!

so yeah...I believe that there are major karmic issues between the 3 of us in regards to love,relationships,obligations.

also...in regards to Eris, Her Mom has Moon in 9'21 Cancer in 2nd square Eris in 9'55 Aries in 12th. That's only 34 minutes of arc. That could indicate diversity,equality issues in regards to gender. My girlfriend's Sun in 9'14 Eris conjuncts her Mom's Sun and squares her mom's moon. That indicates her mom's diversity,equality issues strongly influencing her life.

Eris is no joke.

The breakup sucks, but..hey that's life. Things happen for a reason. I just have to dealt with it and move on. That's what I am trying to do. It's hard, but I know that I will be over her with time.

I am a highly Saturnian person,and well..I am very used to the hard lessons of Saturn. I even like Saturn too. Saturn is good for being grounded,practical,and realistic. I would say that my Moon=Saturn/Neptune (t-square,midpoint picture) indicates my ability to restrict myself from drugs,alcohol,and getting involved with cults,gurus,and keeping myself grounded. I feel the need to avoid things like channeling and mediumism as well as anything highly esoteric because I feel that I need to be grounded in my spirituality. I don't want to lose control of myself. I definitely am better off with a spiritually oriented woman too. An astrologer that I consulted with in 1999 emphasized that I need to be with a woman that is spiritually oriented and that I have to be spiritually oriented too.

Raymond

posted December 13, 2008 02:26 AM         

Yeah...when there was a post about devil's advocate, I thought about Eris.

but yeah...I believe that Eris can be facilitator of what should be/should've been. That can be relative too. A lot of people have different views of what should be/shouldn't have been.

I do believe that Eris can be involved with pointing out things that are wrong in society but people have their eyes closed to. The perception of what is wrong and right is also relative. After all, we have differences in views about what is right and what is wrong. That's not necessarily right nor wrong. It's just having diversity of viewpoints that diverge from each other, but the thing is that they can be convergent because there could be truth to all of them.
I believe that Eris can be about pointing out the self righteous hypocrisy of others. In other words, it can be about pointing out people's crap stinks even though they act like it doesn't. It can be reminding that nobody is perfect for all of us are humans that have flaws,and so we shouldn't act like we are better than others and that we should treat others as being equal humans. It can be about people exposing the ugliness in "beautiful people", but it can make them viewed as being ugly for pointing that out.

the Eris Perihelion/Aphelion axis in Libra/Aries is only a few minutes of arc in opposition to the Jupiter Perihelion/Aphelion axis in Aries/Libra.

so the orbits of Jupiter and Eris are strongly connected.

there could be some characteristics that Jupiter and Eris share

it does seem like the ideological connection

it does fit the remark that Eris' Discoverer, Michael Brown said about Eris caused strife and discord by making people believe that their opinions are right and others' are wrong. This is often a highly common issue in religion and politics.

agreeing to disagree,compromise,seeing that there is common ground even though there are different views might be one of Eris' resolutions.