posted November 08, 2005 05:26 PM         

A Cap will only take so much crap from a person, so if he perceives you as someone who's been exploiting his niceness, or his desire to get along, you may be the recipient of some polite indifference. If you've done anything to attack his dignity, that also would be cause for him to mistrust you. If you're really interested, he'll tell you if you ask him. I know I would.

There's a Scorp I know who thought it was fun to toy with me, but when I realized everything was on her terms for her pleasure/entertainment in her time it didn't really make me want to spend any more time with her.

We are extremely sensitive on the inside, and don't find it particularly difficult to turn on someone if they become displeasing. You're a Scorp, and therefore probably attractive to him, so he may be warming back up to you, but you need earn his trust for him to continue liking you.

posted November 08, 2005 06:23 PM         

its so weird reading all of this info most of it mirrors my capy-baby!! <3 I hope he comes to his senses!! ahhhhh the love of a beast/ GOAT!! ha ha ha

posted November 08, 2005 06:36 PM         

my twin is a goat, too!
and well, we probably have a bigger lesson to learn than them, hehe

considering there under the influence of Saturn, all the time
they have alot of inner knowledge
I want it
hehe

posted November 08, 2005 10:27 PM         

But your description makes sense.. Indifference eh? Hm, thats a hard thing to contend against.. especially since what we had seems broken.. although every time I think that he contacts me and asks if I miss him.. murr.. I'm so confused! Haha.

I mean he's already told me that I hurt his feelings etc and ended the convo by asking if I wanted to "hook up" in sexual terms (we've never been intimate).. so I get the feeling he's been annoyed for a while and just wants to leave with something to show for it? Haha..

posted November 09, 2005 02:59 AM         

To get over his indifference, you simply need to ensure that he knows you really do respect him. You may have to prove this for a while, but it is possible for him to get over.

It's possible that his asking for sex is a response to the way he feels he's been treated. He feels like he's shown his willingness to go along with your agenda, what are you going to do in good faith in return? He really wants you to show him something before he loses all faith in you.

He's just as tough and just as cautious as you, and maybe that's the understanding you need to have about him. This similarity in nature makes Scorps and Caps really compatible, but it can't happen if there's no balance. (Our vengeful sides are just as bad as well, so be careful)

I think you just need to give him something on a regular basis. If you're in a relationship with him, then you need to act like it. You have to respect who he is and how he feels. If you guys can find the balance you'll find he's a great mate, and you'll want to find out how great he is in the sack.

posted November 09, 2005 09:57 AM         

If I had a dollar for every time I unknowingly offended.

They're as self protective as we are. We both think that's only reserved for us. Each trying to make the other give in... it's a lost cause... you just have to say hell with it... and do it.

One thing that I'm still having to get use to, and remember, is that my Cappie needs me to say those lovey things ... and even a hug works wonders.

I can generally get a gut feeling about things... he needs more concrete proof.

Oh, AG's right. They can be little stinkers Also have a memory like an elephant. If you hurt him, he'll nail you to the wall ... may take him a while ... but when you least expect it...

AG did make another good point. They will do their share. I'm so independent that I always do things myself.

Catch: You may have to ask for the help. That's hard for me to do also..

They won't jump thru hoops. If they do, it won't be often, or for long.

posted November 09, 2005 12:20 PM         

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Oh, AG's right. They can be little stinkers Also have a memory like an elephant. If you hurt him, he'll nail you to the wall ... may take him a while ... but when you least expect it...

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posted November 09, 2005 12:34 PM         

The main thing to do is easy.

Treat him as you would want to be treated in any given situation.

If something is wrong... communicate.

posted November 09, 2005 04:49 PM         

Thanks 1scorp. Your description of the dynamics between scorpio & capricorn pretty much describes my situation.. always trying to get the other person to give in! And then being caught up in my own cleverness Although I'm learning he's just as good at it!

I feel as though even with all the miscommunication and retaliation for *perceived* slights, we still keep in contact b/c in a way we both realize we've met our match i.e. someone we can't walk all over using tactics of manipulation and cleverness I guess..

I'm also *very* independent 1scorp.. plus my aquarius moon keeps me so aloof..

Well I'll give it a shot and just put my feelings out there, but I'll be prepared to be met with indifference if that's what it comes to.

Thanks guys! You Rock!

posted November 10, 2005 12:33 PM         

I wish someone would have gave me a few hints along the way Would've saved many a headache/heartache.

You said:

I feel as though even with all the miscommunication and retaliation for *perceived* slights, we still keep in contact b/c in a way we both realize we've met our match i.e. someone we can't walk all over using tactics of manipulation and cleverness I guess..

I agree. The Cappie and I have both admitted to this many times.

I don't think Scorpios and Capricorns can really have control over each other. Maybe for a little while... but it doesn't take long for the other to catch on.

posted November 10, 2005 12:38 PM         

Once you put yourself out there... don't let him milk it.

Demand your respect... and show him the same. It's all about respect.

posted November 11, 2005 04:56 AM         

But in all honesty I thought it was going to feel good, being so open and honest, you know? But instead I feel HORRIBLE. I've never been so forthcoming in my life! I'm not used to saying things as much as I'm used to having people sense it or figure it out themselves! and to do it now, with someone I don't know where I stand with.. I don't know.. maybe it was dumb..

A huge part of me feels like maybe I shouldn't have done it.. maybe I should have left the mess alone, learned lessons and walked away..

But maybe this is a new part of me, learning how to be more open and honest from the BEGINNING and not at the end to salvage a shipwreck

Anyway, just felt like sharing... Thanks & Good night!

posted November 11, 2005 09:36 AM         

I understand what you mean about being open. I'm the same way. It is hard... but it can be liberating.

posted November 11, 2005 09:51 AM         

For astrological reference. Here's the Cappie's placements.

Ascendant Libra 20°27'53
Sun Capricorn 04°52'13 03 direct
Moon Libra 26°30'04 01 direct
Mercury Capricorn 20°27'47 03/4 direct
Mercury is technically near the end of house 3 and is interpreted in house 4.
Venus Scorpio 23°43'57 02 direct
Mars Gemini 18°45'03 08/9 retrograde
Mars is technically near the end of house 8 and is interpreted in house 9.
Jupiter Aries 15°13'44 06 direct
Saturn Leo 01°23'48 10 retrograde
Uranus Scorpio 06°12'08 01 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 12°21'42 02 direct
Pluto Libra 11°36'46 12 direct
True Node Scorpio 20°59'17 02 direct

Here's mine:

Ascendant Libra 11°05'56
Sun Scorpio 06°37'37 01/2 direct
Sun is technically near the end of house 1 and is interpreted in house 2.
Moon Libra 18°57'21 01 direct
Mercury Scorpio 24°30'10 02 direct
Venus Scorpio 19°51'22 02 retrograde
Mars Scorpio 28°06'33 02 direct
Jupiter Leo 07°56'40 10 direct
Saturn Virgo 11°16'46 11 direct
Uranus Scorpio 16°05'38 02 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 16°35'02 03 direct
Pluto Libra 17°23'05 01 direct
True Node Virgo 26°15'54 12 retrograde

I didn't mean for it to be so negative. We have our deals... just like everyone else. I think it's a good thing that he and I can recognize it, and once the smoke clears, laugh about it. I do love him and think he's wonderful.

posted November 11, 2005 11:51 AM         

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ScrpnBliss,

If your Cap is anything like me, he'll really really appreciate the gesture. I don't think he'll miss the significance.

I don't know your situation, but I think there may be a chance that he would be confused by you being straightforward. It could also be that he hasn't responded for some reason we're not aware of, like maybe he's been busy or something, or maybe he's gathering his thoughts.

posted November 11, 2005 12:00 PM         

when you wrote "The one time I dated a Capricorn seriously, he ran my life and not in a good way. When he I wasn't as touchy as he would like he found someone else-in church, setup by his Mom. So maybe that's an ideal. Under the guise of friendship he still tried to run my life, I felt a lot of repressed hostility there."

OMG..i can totally relate i dated a cappy for 2yrs, and after he realized he couldn't change me, he dumped me!!!!! all the while in that time he made sooooo many empty promises about a future together..humph

haha who's laughing now buddy???? lol

posted November 18, 2005 12:57 PM         

As a Capricorn female, I test my suitors alot. The last thing we want is to end up with the wrong person. Testing could be anything from not calling them back/disappearing to see if they are interested enough to keep the contact going. I will test their wits. I will observe upclose and from a distance. Basically I put them under a microscope to see if I could really see what their motives are, how much they are interested in me, and if I could possibly be in a relationship with them. I will keep that person at an emotional distance until they prove their emotional worth to me.
Okay, I admit this isn't fair treatment but it comes very natural to me and I really don't know any other way to go about finding out the things that are hidden beneath the surface (well besides astrology and tarot cards).

posted November 18, 2005 01:17 PM         

no faith in God and the Universe, there
hurt, is karma, part of growing
If you don't try, you'll never know

a leap of faith is required
Look within for the answers
they are there

posted November 18, 2005 02:45 PM         

A Taurus/Capricoen relationship is most rewarding, when the cappy can finall set themselves free, from the material world,
a Taurus must do also
a struggle, easier done together

why do we cause ourselves
so much pain, karma
stern Saturn teacher
reach for the stars
aim higher than ever before, your sure to land
above, not below
and you know, you'll find your starseed
who needs
you so... ...