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Topic: Dedicated to all the Cappy males (or other signs) who leave us hanging...:
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Virgo-AriesArtist Moderator Posts: 1287 From: USA Registered: Nov 2001
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posted March 29, 2004 10:04 AM
To Jason, the Cappy guy I thought was a friend, until he was relationship-obsessed over newest GF of 3 weeks, and is an egocentric martyr.... This one's for him, I scream it aloud!! It's a good, inspiring, uplifting song, by, who else, a wordsmith Virgo gal....  Artist: Pink Album: Try This Title: Last To Know [Chorus] Why was I the last to know That you weren't coming to my show you coulda Called me up to say "good luck" You coulda called me back you stupid f*** Why was I the last to know?
[Verse 1] First date, we ate sushi and It went well, I was funny and You said I was a cutie That's the last thing I heard from you I left the tickets at the door for you I had to tell my mom that there was No more room You didn't show, that was so uncool You coulda called me back So i guess this means that we're Not friends anymore, I heard It's me you're asking for, I thought I'd see you at the show You said you'd go [Chorus] [Verse 2] After the date, I wouldn't go Home with you I wouldn't put my heels in the Air for you You tried to get me to do things I just won't do Last I heard from you Here is how I guess the story goes You woulda came if I was a ho F*** for parts that's just not how I roll, move it on down the road So I guess, we, shouldn't be Friends anymore, sick of hearin' That it's me you're askin' for 'Cause I thought I'd see you at the Show, you said you'd go! [Chorus] You thought you know me I guess you didn't You thought you had me I think you didn't You thought you knew me But you didn't [Chorus (Out)] ------------------ -K "Most people love with restraint As if they were someday to hate We hated gently, carefully As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8372 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted March 29, 2004 05:36 PM
YIKES! What happened girl?IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist Moderator Posts: 1287 From: USA Registered: Nov 2001
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posted March 29, 2004 06:20 PM
Ah, nothing too important, gloria...I just had a potential "guy friend" in this Cappy, until I realized, albeit 6 months too late, that, the Libra rising/Capp sun guy was way too wishy washy, die-hard romanctic, and partnership obesessed, with girls he barely knew, to even care about my life, as he rarely asked questions when we talked, andthe conversations always seemed to center around him, and his poor self pitying life. He disappeared off the face of the earth for almost 4 weeks, before reappearing and being only mildly suprised that I was upset at him for not caring enough to call me and even let me know he was still breathing, as I had no way to contact him. He considers me a good friend, and claims to be willing to risk his life for me (his words not mine), but doesn't care enough to take a genuine interest in my life, or even comment aside from relating it back to some more "important" aspect of his own. I can't stand being disrespected or ignored!!! My 2 Leo moon pet peeves, and he irks both of them....  I just finished completely snubbing him last time we ran into each other, as I was sick of the way he was treating me. I looked through him, and ignored him, "Ice Princess"-style. I plan on sending him a brief note to permanently sever ties, with a logical explanation.------------------ -K "Most people love with restraint As if they were someday to hate We hated gently, carefully As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8372 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted March 29, 2004 11:05 PM
I hear you...You may be much wiser and much more mature than he is. Question is, do you want to wait? Just get on with it. Just be sure the "friendship" part of that deal was not influenced by any other extraneous vibes. I actually "won" a lot of self-respects by "losing" one of those friendships too. Except mine was 100% friendship, while he was a married punk trying to... There's no way to right OVER like that... IP: Logged |
cheza Knowflake Posts: 43 From: Adelaide, South Australia Registered: Feb 2004
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posted March 30, 2004 04:13 AM
Hi dahling,Hey I know exactly how you feel here. The Cappys that I know are all the same. I have found that they will see you then find someone else and break up with you. Disappear suddenly and reappear into your life when that last relationship (where they said "this is the one" and dumped you) begins to fail. A cappy woman I know said that she moved from male to male looking and searching for the right one until she found him at 51yo. She did this every three months. However she never kept men hanging as the male cappys do to females. When I asked a male friend of mine about the reasons why he keeps his females hanging his response was because he could see a future with them but he was not ready to commit. He also would go for all the tary women (easy targets) bed them a few times dump them and move on. If he found someone willing to make him wait he would hang onto them for 3 months or so. Cappy men like feminine women, they dont like women working and are regarded as chauvenists. I have also found out that Cappys like challenges ie "You could never get me back" are words that Cappy will go all out to make sure he gets you back just to prove you wrong. But they have to work for it and not have it too easy but not too hard either as they lack patience. Failure and rejection are one thing that Cappy HATE!!! If you don't want to lose his friendship tell him he is a coward if you do tell him to F*** off. He will still react to that and try to convince you otherwise..... even if it is months later. Oh and as for restraining orders....tried that one too (Didn't work in my case as Cappy is so law abiding he is sure to have a friend in the police force that will block it) I know when they have had it they walk forever but I just cant give you answers to that other than lying, cheating on him etc. Oh and if you have money have something he Needs (ie: connections in the clothing business where he can get bargains) or a good job etc, you sure as hell wont lose him. He loves money and glamourous feminine women. Good luck.. If I think of anything else I will be sure to let you know IP: Logged |
Aen Knowflake Posts: 559 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted March 30, 2004 05:05 AM
Just wanted to say this thread has been hilarious reading. Keep up the good work.  Aen (Cappy, of course) IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8372 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted March 30, 2004 06:46 AM
I've said before, Cappy men are still angry with their mother. Because of my strong Eros (supposedly) I'm already doing battle with Cancer & Cappys' mothers and always will. So no wonder of all my most hurtful relationships, worst w/ Cancer, & then Cappy's second.Just as opposites are also alike, Cappy & Cancer as opposites have a lot in common. Just like all the other's do. Virgo has a lot in common with Pisces. Aries & Libra, Taurus & Scorpio, Gemini & Sagitarrius, Leo & Aquarius. Wanna snag an immature Cap or Cancer? BE his mom. Wanna feel the wrath? CHALLENGE his mother through your demeanor with him. He'll allow her to speak thru his demeanor BACK. .gloria ------------------ it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness... IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist Moderator Posts: 1287 From: USA Registered: Nov 2001
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posted March 30, 2004 07:11 AM
gloria..I was a tad by something you said: quote: Just get on with it. Just be sure the "friendship" part of that deal was not influenced by any other extraneous vibes.
Other extraneous vibes? what are you implying? Just curious.....------------------ -K "Most people love with restraint As if they were someday to hate We hated gently, carefully As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 3746 From: Generic New England City Registered: May 2003
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posted March 30, 2004 11:43 AM
Great song! I am so glad women of the next generation have the guts to tell it like it is. In my generation I see too many settling, when they ought to be pushing. And I myself am one of those kinds of women who too often, do not get angry and speak out.I am always glad to see the way the next generation improves on the last. Keep it up! I heard a great country song- "Don't rob a blind man and don't hustle people you don't know.. ...and don't mess around with me.. It may sound funny, honey but I want what you took from me, I may not get it but I will tell it like it is... Don't hustle people you don't know.. ...and don't mess around with me... Natasha Taurus IP: Logged |
Harpyr Moderator Posts: 1904 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 30, 2004 01:20 PM
It sounds to me like the friendship part of the deal was influenced by his ulterior motive of wanting you to become one of those girlfriends he could obsess over and when that didn't pan out quickly enough for him.....IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist Moderator Posts: 1287 From: USA Registered: Nov 2001
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posted March 30, 2004 10:00 PM
Harpyr...so you're saying that in your opinion it sounds like he intended to ask me out? That was the the original vibe I got from this situation way back, but, then again, he had my number for an extended period of time and never called me...When I asked him why h'd gotten my number, he said he wanted to have friends' numbers, and when asked why he didn't call, he replied, well, I had his number, why didn't I call him? That sounded so, so lame. I'm an Aries rising, Leo influenced female...men pursue me, or they're not worth the breath or time of day. I made the mistake once or twice of being the huntress, and both times got led on and burned, so I refused to ever do that again. My dear Gemmy has pursued me until I realized the feelings were mutual, and then, it became a two way street, and we were always friends, and still are, just better friends as time passes. Even with friends that aren't romantic, I demand a two-way street, and this guy is not pulling his weight in the relationship. This is precisely why he's not worth wasting energy on anymore. My Virgo rationale, at least.------------------ -K "Most people love with restraint As if they were someday to hate We hated gently, carefully As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist Moderator Posts: 1287 From: USA Registered: Nov 2001
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posted March 30, 2004 10:03 PM
So, from all we've summised he's been a manipulative, cowardly, loser (jackarse)...Three more reasons to dump the jerk.  IP: Logged |
NeptunesLittleGem Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Manitoba Canada Registered: Mar 2004
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posted March 30, 2004 10:30 PM
LoL you guys.  I have A cappy ex too. Yikes it's freaky the similarites. He's the same way, he can see a future, "he wants a future" but he's just not ready to commit. Ahem, I'm a Gemini with a Sag Rising so I'm not exactly the type of girl to wait around for him to make up his mind. Ya think that would discorage him. NO. We've been on and off over the past 4 years. He spent a year and a half begging me to take him back before we dated the 2nd time. Haha it took 3 years before i'd sleep with him. There's that love of a challenge thing I guess. Ya know what? We're off again, But he still checks in once in awhile just to grovel for forgiveness. Not that he wants to get back together or if he does he's just not telling me that part. Arg...drives me crazy. And the mother issuse...You bet he's got one of those. The only difference is that he really loves his mom. Umm "mama's boy" is the correct term. The guy is 6 foot 4, 220 pounds, tattooed, in the military, but man does he love his mom. Her word is the word of God. And he picked her over me just a few too many times for it to be "normal." Haha Ok I'm done now Thanx for reading my ramble 
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Harpyr Moderator Posts: 1904 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted March 30, 2004 11:55 PM
VAA, Yeah, I imagine he probably wanted to ask you out but was too afraid to. Afraid, likely cause he could intuitively sense you were too strong and secure a woman to play along through the sort of drama he sounds likely to gravitate towards.Then there's the youthfulness of him. It's hard for alot of men to feel secure enough to put themselves in such a vulnerable position of asking out an intelligent, beautiful, strong woman before they are atleast 25. ...Golly, I'll feel silly if he's older than that, I don't recall you ever mentioning his age now that I think about it but I get a younger impression of him from your descriptions of him. And if he is older than that then he's acting rather immature, IMO. Anyways, I'm imagining that he was waiting for you to give him more of a "I-want-to-jump-your-bones" vibe than you likely ever did before he took the emotional risk of asking you out. And since he didn't get that vibe off you then he is probably coming to the same conclusion that so many many other men come to- "If she doesn't want me, well then.. I have enough friends..." I dunno.. That's just the impression I get.  IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist Moderator Posts: 1287 From: USA Registered: Nov 2001
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posted March 31, 2004 08:46 AM
Yeah, NLG, that is a little freaky, how your Cap ex keeps groveling. Not the kind of man I'd put up with, and yet I seem to attract the guys with serious "martyr" complexes. A bit of a sick pattern, I suppose, but I seem to have broken ti recently, or at least I will by leaving this Cap "high and dry", so to speak. I'm in a phase of elimating things in my life that do nothing but drain me mentally and emotionally...so...And in regard to your querries, Harpyr, yes, he just turned 20 on New Year's Day, but he's way, way more immature than I am at 18 right now. He's even more immature than my "special Gemini guy" is at 16.5 years old. I'd like to think of myself as a very strong and secure woman, as I've gotten alot more spine in the last year or so. Not that I wasn't self-sufficient before, but my recent experiences have pushed me even more towards growing up, in a good but occasionally jerking abrupt, and straining way. And, ya know, I never give off that potent of a sexual overtone to someone I barely know, and who barely knows me. On the other hand, his manners and overall level of sophistication would never lend itself to an attraction, as I like my guys to be more gentlemen in their ways and language. He's quite coarse (not to be snobbish of me), and weak in ways that could never handle my rarely, but from time to time, volitile feelings of ups and downs. He's not considerate or senitmental, or even mildly predictable, and that also irks the heck out of me. I did decide that if he wasn't man enough to make an even slight follow through on something as simple as a phone number, which I gave him (and I don't ever give that out), he's never have neough initiative to keep my interest. So yes, after I heard he was single after the first and second girlfriends, and still didn't ask me out, I was disgusted, and decided I didn't want to ever give him the time of day in that way. Thanks for your astute observations. It really made me think harder.
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astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8372 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted March 31, 2004 06:56 PM
I know! When guys who always liked you keep calling!! And you've moved on and cleaned "your 7th House".It's a major aggravation for me, not even an ego boost. There's an Aquarius, Taurus Moon, Venus in Pisces 100% friend who keeps calling. Keeps leaving messages, last one today, "I'm not above begging. You're my friend and I want to see what you're up to." And he keeps giving me a vibe like he thinks I have a crush on him. A little too delicate. And then an old Sag 100% friend, he cannot even wipe his own azz. And soon to be, old Taurus, Aquarius Moon again, since I just found out he's not dead. Not only that, I haven't seen him since July 4th. OK? (haven't talked to him since around Aug 3rd). Remember I've been celibate until just 2 weeks ago. One week after I'm finally ready to move on, old Taurus comes back from the dead, ONE WEEK AFTER I LOST MY VIRGINITY again. OK - if that's not enough to weird someone out. The fact is, I love men - IP: Logged |
ScrpnBliss Knowflake Posts: 8 From: CA Registered: Nov 2005
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posted November 04, 2005 06:46 PM
OM-friggin-G! All of these posts describes my experience with a Cap to a T! I've only known him for about 8 months though and we never did the bf/gf thing. He too approached me as if he wanted to be friend. But then quickly became obssessed. And people generally described me as the beautiful, confident woman type. I never gave off the "I want to jump your bones" type vibe and he stuck around for a while. Then disappeared for 4 weeks, then came back as if I was the one who told him to go away. How crazy! Good to know that even if I would have dated him this crap would still be going on for 4 years!We're currently not talking to each other (again). Who in the hell do these guys end up marrying? And do they more likely than most marry late in life?
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lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 2797 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 04, 2005 06:51 PM
I would think they would end up alone and even late for their own funeral hehe  IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 3746 From: Generic New England City Registered: May 2003
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posted November 05, 2005 08:49 AM
Do these men have Venus and Mercury in Cap too I wonder?The one time I dated a Capricorn seriously, he ran my life and not in a good way. When he I wasn't as touchy as he would like he found someone else-in church, setup by his Mom. So maybe that's an ideal. Under the guise of friendship he still tried to run my life, I felt a lot of repressed hostility there. And yes feminine, submissive, liked by Mom, those are what he wanted. Mom always wants feminine, pretty, loved by Dad and Mom, lots of money, so nice clothes, steady, reliable income and hobbies. Nothing that could compete with her but a driving need to be a partner with someone-you should say over and over again-I hate to be alone. Sag/1st house here can't come off as that steady or feminine- Another condition I have found with Caps especially with Venus and mercury in Cap is the strong and curious desire to be with someone who is attached-probably because it seems like more approval from a mom or dad figure-and more stability. I used to be like this, very into men who were about to detach from a woman, because the seemed more stable-but I figured out they were even more dependent. As for earth signs-they seem to always marry later or find themselves when they are older. Natasha Taurus Cancer Moon IP: Logged |
IknowUcappy Knowflake Posts: 44 From: Registered: Oct 2005
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posted November 06, 2005 04:31 AM
Sthenri, does this mean most capricorn males just want a girl they can mold ? A girl with no personality of her own ?  What if the cap male has placements like moon in libra and cancer rising ? ( Have you met anyone like this ? ) Would it be the same ? What would his ideal type of girl be ?  Thank you !  IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 3746 From: Generic New England City Registered: May 2003
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posted November 06, 2005 12:44 PM
Hey, no negative assumptions about Cappies, on my part. I didn't mean it that way-Capricorns have a fixed image and they will express it, if you are not like that girl then they can change their ideal-be yourself and your strong personality will shine through. A relationship is a compromise and both people always mold each other, it's not just one person or the other even if it feels that way at times. Capricorns do like to be helped in career and work functions, but again there are no assumptions. Take Care, Natasha
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IknowUcappy Knowflake Posts: 44 From: Registered: Oct 2005
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posted November 07, 2005 03:40 AM
Thank you Natasha !  I'll just be me  poor guy  IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 2797 From: piopolis, quebec canada Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 07, 2005 11:01 AM
 Yes, be the lovely YOU, goddess and when I said they'd be late for their own funeral, well it's true, becuase they'll be immortal hehe Love and Light to ALL IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 3460 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted November 08, 2005 12:50 PM
(I'm a Capricorn) I haven't read all of this, but generally I'm always trying to see if I can rule out a future early in the relationship so I don't lead anyone on. No sense in staying with someone if I don't see it going anywhere.The tough part for me is getting caught up in the flattery of receiving attention. The attention feels great, and so I go for that person, but then if I realize it likely won't work for some reason then I try to end it as soon as possible so I don't extend things and magnify the hurt I might cause. --------- I'll have to come back to this sometime to continue reading some of the nasty things you guys say about us. I both love my mom and have troubles with her. She's not a bad person. She's a Leo with a completely different perspective than mine. IP: Logged |
ScrpnBliss Knowflake Posts: 8 From: CA Registered: Nov 2005
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posted November 08, 2005 01:29 PM
Hey AG, yeah I guess that makes a lot of sense.. I mean who doesnt like attention eh? My thing though.. the Cap I know has a cancer moon and I think I've shattered his ego to bits when it comes to dealing with me. And now he's just extremely defensive.. I swear I didnt do any of it on purpose, I just didnt know he was so d*amn sensitive! I kind of want to fix it but I dont know though.. is there a way to tell if a Cap is just being polite but disinterested vs. warming back up to you? Haha probably not, but any insight would help  ------------------ Scorpio Sun/Aqua Moon/Scorpio Asc IP: Logged | |