posted May 18, 2004 02:46 PM         

we lived together for7-8 months then we broke
up(family against my race n culture)was a very bad
break up..we did love each other deeply but she just
wanted to run from all the problems..
then i dissapeared then reappeared on herb-day..we are
friends now..we meet at nightclubs..we dance flirt n
she tells me her deepest secrets..she likes my
attention a lot...but still insisting we would remain
friends..i will ofcourse..but i wonder what i can make
to change her mind without bieng pushy..and one more
thing..how compatible are we..our birth charts are
these:

Me:
Rising Sign is in 19 Degrees Gemini
Sun is in 15 Degrees Pisces
Moon is in 22 Degrees Gemini
Mercury is in 03 Degrees Aries
Venus is in 03 Degrees Aquarius
Mars is in 05 Degrees Pisces
Jupiter is in 29 Degrees Cancer
Saturn is in 10 Degrees Virgo
Uranus is in 20 Degrees Scorpio
Neptune is in 20 Degrees Sagittarius
Pluto is in 18 Degrees Libra
N. Node is in 17 Degrees Virgo

She:
Rising Sign is in 05 Degrees Gemini
Sun is in 22 Degrees Aquarius
Moon is in 04 Degrees Aquarius
Mercury is in 26 Degrees Capricorn
Venus is in 15 Degrees Pisces
Mars is in 19 Degrees Pisces
Jupiter is in 07 Degrees Sagittarius
Saturn is in 04 Degrees Scorpio
Uranus is in 08 Degrees Sagittarius
Neptune is in 28 Degrees Sagittarius
Pluto is in 29 Degrees Libra
N. Node is in 03 Degrees Cancer

posted May 21, 2004 01:30 PM         

She needs to see a plan of action, with her Venus in Capricorn. Some stability is important too.

You have a Pisces sun and want more in the way of empathy "she ran away from the problems" doesn't sound like she is meeting your need for sympathy and compassion when you are down.

What kind of life do you imagine together? Do you think she wants that? She may on her own course right now in terms of work and family and trying to carve out her own identity. Does your future seem incomplete without a mate?

That' s a good goal for a Pisces sun but some women have a tough time believing in having a mate in the first place and are not ready to decide.

Mentally she is challenging but you need someone to hang out with and be on the same wavelength with you, you don't have to be in love everyday. Does this feel right so far?

Why did you two stop living together and why did you start living together in the first place? With a goal in mind or just for love? Venus in Capricorn feels a little unstable without a goal (marriage).

posted May 21, 2004 03:16 PM         

I am have just joined this forum not too long ago and is by no means an expert in astrology. But I can offer you some advise on relationship with Racial/Religious differences...

I can see that she is very much influenced by her family, and family acceptance seem to be very important to her. I think she does truly love you but is not willing to give up family approval for love.

In any love relationship, if it is going to have any chance of survival, it cannot be influenced by outside force, especially family and friends.

My advise to you, for all it is worth, is to move on and let her grow up. Because based on your write up, she seemed very immature.

Even if she does manage to go against her family's influence/approval, what guarantee do you have that she is not going to let them run your lives in the future?

The only way that this type of relationship is going to work is when both of you decide that it is important enough to forsake every one including family - basically, both of you must be willing to say to the world: We love each other and you either accept us as a couple, or you don't get to accept any of us.

I myself is married to a wonderfull man that has a racial background completely opposite my own. My family was so against our relationship when I left to start my life with my husband 6 years ago. None of my family members showed up at our wedding. They have just now started to accept that we are a couple for real.

This acceptance takes time, and if both of you really love each other, you have all the time in the world. But if not, then you are better off finding another mate.

Hope this helps and good luck to you.

posted May 21, 2004 04:52 PM         

It really hurts to be rejected that way, but the question is do you accept her? Not the other way around. You are having feelings about her that are up and down and you can't deny it. What can you say about spending the rest of your life with her if her parents hate you? Can you take it without her support, since she just told you in actions not words that she wouldn't take your side?

If you are truly hoping that she has changed, become sweeter, then look for real changes in actions not words. Watch what she does around YOUR family, and be real with yourself about it.

In the meantime do date other girls that you like and enjoy being with, do not put yourself down or beat yourself up in any way about what you are missing with the Aqua girl. She is great but there are other Aqua girls. Do not love in the NAME of love, love a real person. Otherwise it's just about drama and you don't need that.

There are different kinds of love, and some kinds of love do not last. That's a fact, it's beautiful because it is, enjoy it while it lasts but never expect every kind of love to stay forever. Nature is changing all the time for a reason, we have to accept it, and love changes too. Enjoy the changes in your relationship and see what happens with it.

posted May 22, 2004 12:42 PM         

Practical advice.

Never, never, never chase an Aquarius woman. You can't run fast enough to catch her. She will come to you or not at all. Attempting to examine her motives is confusing. She likes it that way and will keep her own secrets, resisting, resenting and deflecting your attempts to penetrate the fog she lays down.

Chasing an Aquarius is a kind of pressure, the kind they don't like. They don't like to be confined or feel constrained. Questioning their motives for what they say and do is equally undesirable.

You're dealing with an independent minded woman who hasn't made up her mind--yet but if there's any sign who will make up their own mind and go against the wishes of family and friends, Aquarius is that sign.

She confuses you and keeps you off balance which is not surprising considering it's part of the Aquarius mystique and don't forget she's a Gemini rising. Hard to know who will show up day to day. If you want to see an Aquarius woman smile or laugh, tell her she confuses you---but don't, not yet anyway.

Fun and friendship she understands and enjoys but clinging to her and/or keeping tabs on her, what she's doing, who she's seeing, etc., generally isn't appreciated.

You need to be cool, don't discuss her with your friends or her friends, which will get back to her via the grapevine. You need to have a life outside of your relationship/friendship with her and not be so readily available to her or for her.
When you're out with her or if you run into her, just go with it and have fun. Keep the emotional talk out of your conversations with her, or let her bring it up. Don't be surprised if she attempts to take your temperature, so to speak. Best to not open up and tell her how you really feel at that point. Time enough for that when and if she commits to you.

Just know she is comparing every guy she meets and dates to you. If she told you she loves you, she didn't say that lightly. Don't try to make her jealous. Don't be obvious and if stories about who you may be dating gets back to her, make sure the story didn't originate with you because she will probably try to find out where it came from.

You're going to have to wait which is not an insurmountable hurdle for a Venus in Aquarius type like you and there's plenty of time considering both of your ages.

posted May 22, 2004 05:54 PM         

Friends first with Aquarius. You've already stepped over that line even if the line between friendship and love is sometimes blurry for Aquarius, especially at the ripe old age of 21.

If you can decide to be her friend, she will notice immediately something has changed. I think that's when she will begin to really assess what it is she wants---a committed relationship or freedom which is very high on the Aquarius list.

posted May 29, 2004 09:40 AM         

from one pisces boy to another who is going through a similar experience (with an aquarian) i may be of some assistance.

oooh just a quickie, you wanna listen to aqua and jwhop!!! they know there stuff.

not sure if this will work for you, (it did with me) but i would like to add that maybe acting a bit luvvy duvvy may not be the best approach. i always find aquarians act more positively (after you have their attention, which i think you most certainly have) if you ignore them or give em the finger. winds them up a treat. lol. be a little bad!!!
i mean, dont get me wrong, acting a little luvvy will show her what she is missing, but the latter will show her you dont give a crap too. which aquarians hate. remember she wants your attention and i think you have gave her enough of that already. (she now knows what you are capable of giving, let her miss it for a while)

instead of assuming she is the one for you, why dont you swing it around. make her work for your love. think --- "you are the one she needs not the other way around". why is she so special? and not another gal. with all the free time from not chasing her you can do your own thing and have your own activities.

I know not seeing her will hurt so much but try to imagine what she is going through too. remember pisces like to tell everyone how they feel (even strangers lol) but aquarians dont. just because she doesnt show it doesnt mean she doesnt feel for you.

but, if she needs a shoulder to cry on sometime, always be there for her as a pisces would be. keep your life a little mysterious (dont tell her everything) but most importantly be detached. for example: if any of her friends ask if you are seeing anyone just provide a little smile. let their imagination wonder and her mind will over analyse the rest.

like aqua and jwhop said if she wants you she will come get you!!! be patient and wait.

this all may sound a bit nasty but i find it works. one word of warning, dont over do it as aquarians dont like being taken for granted.

use your pisces skills against the naughty aquarian......intuition vs logic. lol

if anyone doesnt agree with what i say dont be shy to say, i dont take criticsm to heart. I may learn from it. lol.