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Topic: The Cappy Mooner
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astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 26, 2004 10:22 PM
The Synastry aspect which says, you will feel unexpected things with each other. Things you didn't even know you could feel ... ... is SO true - even if I chose not ... IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 27, 2004 05:14 AM
Natasha are you there?What you said about his Neptune being in my 7th House is finally beginning to make some sense. He's reminding me of romance, but he's very subtle because it's his Neptune in my 7th, plus, he doesn't want to be pushy or rude about it (Libra Sun & Merc). Plus Cappy Mooner guys don't take lightly to getting a lot of criticism. I wonder if his Natal Neptune in my 7th has an affect on Transiting Pluto, which happens to be Transiting my 7th? Hmmmm... hadn't thought of that until just now. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 27, 2004 05:16 AM
I didn't realize how thick-headed I am about romance until just now...IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 2102 From: Montreal, Canada Registered: May 2003
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posted August 27, 2004 11:51 AM
Your 7th is really very important Gloria, because you are a Libra. If a man has his Neptune in a house that has a strong significance you will want the relationship to take shape, have a destination, mutual goal in mind. If that doesn't happen, it's very frustrating. At the same time you want to turn to him for cuddling affection, It's hard to get your needs met and at the same time meet his.He is very sensitive and possibly paranoid about critical people, due to his mother or father being very critical. When he feels that, he starts to see the woman in his life dominating him. He needs to boost his own self esteem with a work project, you can't help him with that, so that's where the frustration comes in. First house moon doesn't like to be alone ever You are independent and like to be alone sometimes, there is a possible conflict Natasha
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astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 27, 2004 12:29 PM
Yeah - OKThat's true of what's happening right now, and so why do I feel like it's not over? IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 27, 2004 06:30 PM
( ... he's on his own right now ... )IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 2102 From: Montreal, Canada Registered: May 2003
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posted August 28, 2004 10:19 AM
I'll give you some advice a close and reliable, dutiful and stable friend gave me when I married my ex who had moon/1st. He said, never marry an insecure man, he will always be jealous of you deep down, and never get over it.Listen to those who are reliable, stable, dependable, and in short friends. Your moon likes to chill out, do you want the drama everytime you hit that red button that says insecurity? The question is not is he alone right now, but are you? What were you doing during that month when you were not speaking to him, and with who, you couldn't have been alone, so that's why he got another girlfriend. He is insecure about you, he is scared and intimidated by your smarts. You left him alone, for one reason to be with someone else. Try convincing him otherwise. That's insecurity, jealousy, deep down he is very worried about how to compete with you. Love is about respect, respect is about value, and you can only value those you know well. Reliable dependable, lovers are worth more trust me, than the exciting ones. If you value that why reward the unstable ones? It's not hard to find what you want, someone who loves you who wants to marry you, so why are you rewarding someone who doesn't? Is it because he is exciting? jealous? demanding? wants you, more than anyone else? Think on the oldest most reliable friend you have, and think about the feeling between you, why dont' you have that with Mr. Libra? Do you value that feeling? Cancer moon love is soothing, calm, serene, never fearful, or insecure. You are security, you are the mother figure, look for compatiblity with that, rather than the opposite. Took me a long time to figure out how secure I really am. i was talking to another male cancer moon last week, and he is now rejecting any date who doesn't seem "secure within herself" kind of harsh right? or smart? He seems happy. Natasha Taurus IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 28, 2004 01:53 PM
Thanks Natasha -He IS that friend, and he's known that I'm basically a loner, and he knows I value his friendship and would rather lose him as a lover than a friend. He knows this. It's possible he wishes he could be more free-spirit like me, but I think our Saturn & Uranus Conjunction is working its ways, and I think it's a positive aspect. It might not be an "excitement" factor here as far as why I like him. I hear what you're saying about being with someone who can be with me right now, and all that. It's not like I'm living my life for him and that everything is about him, so I'm ready to start dating. I'm still gonna marry the first guy who has the b@lls to ask me. Thanks for your response as always. .gloria IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 28, 2004 02:54 PM
BTW - I do realize how immature his reaction was, but just like I needed those 3 weeks to check myself first, so I would be stronger for him, I'm giving him all the time he needs to become a better person as well. Maybe he needs to work out his trust issues, or anything else he doesn't realize is holding him back emotionally. Just like I said with Mr. T, I'm going to let HER be the one to deal with any garbage he does not want me to deal with. I've had to take hold of the reins of my Virgo influences, so I wouldn't be so weak in that way with him. Now he's more of an equal to me. He's more like a twin soul, as we have some similar influences in our chart - so we do kind of go through the same stuff at the same time. Sort of like, in those 3 weeks I took, I became stronger, he became weaker. But still, it's probably the best decision for him at this time. I love him with all my heart, like I've never felt for anyone else, and that's the truth. It seems as if he (like SO many guys out there) never had someone like me, love him unconditionally. That's a big clue right there. He has my love, but doesn't know quite what to do with it. And it may seem as if he is taking me for granted, but he's not. I know that if he wants me back, he'll be back at the first possible moment. Just like when I needed that time to myself. I got back to him as soon as a possibly could. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 28, 2004 05:34 PM
So Natasha -How does this relate to his Neptune in my 7th House? Or does it have any connection at all? Thanks. .gloria IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 2102 From: Montreal, Canada Registered: May 2003
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posted August 29, 2004 08:00 PM
No, I was mainly focusing on his 1st house Moon, finances are really tough for 1st house Moons right now and so he has to focus on that too. Your post says a lot about giving to him, and being his friend. It doesn't say if he is busy being your friend. What proof do you have that he values your friendship? What does he do?Does he make sandwiches and walk you in the park, or does he talk about these things? Just asking, because you have to look out for yourself. Natasha
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astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 29, 2004 08:44 PM
No problem, I understand. Well, the first thing you mentioned is everything he needs to concentrate on, which is finances. He has to take care of a couple of family members too and at the same time, he wants to go on to do more creative things with his life, he's a writer too and very talented. In terms of what he does for me, it's like those discussions we have sometimes of how some guys (Cappy's or Mars in Cancer), have ways of showing you if they love you. It's like that. So far he's always taken the high road with me.If I tend to sound like I do so much for him, blame it on his Neptune in my 7th - hee hee - really, I'm thinking that's a part of it. Last night I realized more ways he's "reminding me of romance", and I was going to tell you I have no idea how this transmission occurs, but it's amazing. Like he is literally showing me not only love, but what love is between a man and woman. IP: Logged |
Aen Knowflake Posts: 222 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted August 30, 2004 03:20 AM
Yep. It's either his Cappy Moon or Cancer Mars but never his Libra Sun. Keep up the good work.  IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 30, 2004 07:52 AM
Hey Aen -Thanks. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 30, 2004 10:50 PM
... OK ... here's a totally obessessive question. If my Natal Moon is my 3rd House, and if the Transiting Moon is in HIS 3rd House at some point, would that mean he would miss "me" ?IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 3973 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2003
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posted August 31, 2004 12:21 AM
Of course he would miss you, A.J. You're you.IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 31, 2004 12:26 AM
*raz*I don't know whether to laugh or cry ... But hey! It just made me think of a new thread. "separations". IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 31, 2004 12:34 AM
OK - Confession time ... I admit the reason I obsessed was because I WANT him to miss me OK???? Miss me m////er f////er !!! That's so dammn cruel. Now I'm being cruel. This is not good. OK, I need to recharge my luuuuuuuv batteries. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 31, 2004 01:49 AM
OK -All this is leading up to a head on Wednesday. Here's what his Daily says for him::: "Don't cave in ** During this time most people have to deal with feelings of doubt, discouragement and inadequacy. Also you may find yourself unpleasantly confronted by the consequences of past actions that you hoped would simply go away. The challenge is to confront them without caving in and feeling hopeless. Now you will question whether you are doing what you should with your life. The temptation is to decide that you are not, and to give up. Others may try to convince you that you are on the wrong course and give you very demoralizing advice. Of course, you may in fact be wrong in some area, and there you should change course. But you must avoid the tendency to cave in. Evaluate what you are doing in your own terms, not someone else's, and decide whether you are acting properly in various matters. Mars Square Neptune " He'll have other Venus & Moon "hard" aspects that day too, so if his Neptune in my 7th is going to do anything...
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sthenri Moderator Posts: 2102 From: Montreal, Canada Registered: May 2003
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posted August 31, 2004 08:56 AM
Gloria, being mad is the necessary part of any romance. First there is the lovey dovey part, then there is The Argument and then the break up. Then there is the wanting, missing, and that' s shared by both.Emotions go both ways in a romance, since boundaries have been dissolved. Then there is the nasty, hate part, as in die, die, I never want to see you again part. That is necessary, otherwise there is no growth. There are NO BAD EMOTIONS, I always say this, do not repress. Express. Go with it, hate him with all your heart. He will hear you and miss you that way. In a love relationship things are misty, sharp emotions, like anger and lust are the ones that get through more quickly. If you want him to miss you channel, anger and distress towards him, not love. Then when he shows up, tell him how you feel, step by step, love, hate, anger, sorrow, everything. He ought to deal with it. Anger is a great healing emotion, since you need to purge it from your body sometime. You are a Libra, you are always thinking about peace and love, let it all out. He will hear you, don't ask me how I know, I do though. When I am super angry at a man, he always calls me, it's like he knows, and wants to make up with me. Making up with a woman is ten times more important to a man, than keeping a woman happy......! You are not adjusting reality, you are being yourself, After recent experience with Taurus Moon, I was told by him, that he wanted a woman who NEEDED HIM, who was upset and needed him, needed nurturing, taking care, of helping. Never did he say he wanted a lovey dovey, woman who was on top of everything. He liked it when I was hungry or scared, or had to get this-carry me home when my shoe broke!!! That's a male earth moon, he likes needy, and distressed, physically distressed. Not emotionally distressed, because that makes him feel powerless. He wants to act like Tarzan to your Jane. So get mad, be yourself. Natasha
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astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 31, 2004 03:07 PM
Hee hee ... thank you so much for that Natasha."... Making up with a woman is ten times more important to a man, than keeping a woman happy......! ..." I had no idea! Guess it brings out that Tarzan thing, which is part of their nature. Sometimes we do them unjustice by making things too easy. Especially a Singleton Cappy Mooner, eh? I'll give it a few days. Looks like he's dealing with rough aspects right now too, and they are meant to help him eliminate what he doesn't need in his life, which is what he needs, and what I need too! IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 31, 2004 07:51 PM
Hmmmmm ... Could mother nature herself be trying to tell him something? Natasha - I know you said not to let him go for a month, but right now, I've got to worry about me. No one is Florida right now doubts there are no coincidences. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4094 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted September 07, 2004 05:36 PM
Hey. Sorry if I sound self-indulgent here. It's because I'm feeling self-indulgent right now. I kept getting Natasha's words popping up in my head for a few days, and so I guess I finally have to write something about it.When Natasha said there was insecurity and jealousy. I've only known insecure guys, and I never thought of him being truly jealous. So I've been giving it considerable serious thought. I still don't see it, but appreciate the heads-up just in case. What I'll see is just, him carrying a lot of weight around, and maybe he's bitter because he feels like his life is being sucked out of him. He's like me in that we attract people who need to talk to someone - that sort of Cancer influence. Before he knows it, he's off on some other way to save the world. I don't know. From what we talked about in the beginning, he was saying things like marriage being far away, and he wasn't even sure if he would marry. Did he get me there? Or were we wondering the same thing? thanks. .gloria ------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 2102 From: Montreal, Canada Registered: May 2003
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posted September 08, 2004 07:24 AM
usually people say what they mean at the start before things get rocky. If he said that he wasn't ready, he's probably still not ready.I am coming to grips with that myself, I put my old wedding ring on a nail in the wall above my head, to remind me, that is what I want, at least a symbol of what I want. Love, for Always. It hurts to be alone, I know, but the only cure is finding someone new, to let the other one be free. I wish the Taurus Moon guy would go find someone new on this end, he doesn't realize how painful it is to hear from him, so I can't talk to him much. Natasha
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posted September 08, 2004 09:05 AM
My deal must be, I'd rather be with the person I'm drawn to and who I'm learning from, rather than be with a "sure thing". I'm not sure if that's because guys who are a "sure thing" realize I'm not into mother-in-laws, or because older guys lecture me.I woke up really early this morning after a short nap basically, and I just woke up so angry with him, just all of the sudden, all this anger upon waking up. Kind of chilling. Then I see maybe it's because the Moon is currently in Cancer? And then I noticed, the Leo placements in transit, and wondered if people would feel very touchy and have touchy egos today. Like the Leo pride taking a normal comment too harshly (Cancer Moon). But then there's all these orderly Virgo too, and I wonder if it is enough to sublimate these reactions. I can usually "feel the vibe" of the day just by hearing one person talk for about 30 seconds, and I already feel this "touchy" vibe... Anyways - I appreciate your attention. When it comes to romance, I'm confused as ever. It's no wonder sometimes we wander into old territory. ------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged | |