posted June 12, 2005 06:06 PM         

I'll check out that author as well.

posted June 12, 2005 06:25 PM         

The virgo man situation is getting so frustrating i cant even begin to tell you. I saw him saturday and his face lit up when he saw me, but because i was with my friends hubby chatting he wouldn't have thought i saw him, then i went into the clubrooms to make up the drinks for 40 11 and 12 year olds! (they had just played a game of rugby) and when mr virgo came inside to speak to me someone else came up and started speaking to me, and before you know it mr virgo had turned tail and gone back outside. I noticed however he made sure that where ever he was standing either i could see him or he could see me. by the time i got outside to go chat he had left on the team bus to go play his game!!! so still no further, but at least i know he was going to speak to me!!! Is this tooing and froing normal for a virgo?? sounds like it from what you've said. He has been hurt and wounded alot too so i do understand, but because we are both shy it isnt really helping! I do know i feel a strong connection though...any advice would really be appreciated. I dont really know where he hangs so cant really go where he is as you suggested.

posted June 14, 2005 10:38 PM         

Is she also musically inclined? Maybe you could take her to see some local muscians or something.

posted June 18, 2005 02:03 PM         

Reading your post really moved me, I had a similar childhood as yours. I used to do the much of the same things, sabotage and run away when a love would get too close. I really feel for you. What kind of relationship do you presently have with your parents? Have you ever told them how you feel? Know that you aren't responsible for how they treated you. Know that you are a beautiful soul who deserves to be happy. Have you ever tried keeping a journal? I find writing to be one of the best therapies ever.

posted May 24, 2007 12:57 PM         

When you said,'It hurts to think that something I held so dear wasnt perfect after all.' and you cut them off, don't you miss them at all? How about all the times you spent with them and the things they did for you, does it means anything?

Hope you don't mind me asking, I am just trying to understand how someone feels in that situation.

posted May 24, 2007 01:45 PM         

This was a fabulous discussion and deserved bumping!!
I feel that you will be able to heal your wounds in the next decade and be able to open up to others again in a healthy way -- desire for change can be a powerful motivator.....

I have several friends, with histories of poor treatment in childhood, who push others away when they feel unworthy of love and attention. When people stay away, they think "see, I'm not worthy of love and attention" and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for them. Positive affirmations of Self are crucial to healing, and it has to start with cutting out the negative self-talk.

Have you checked the Chiron activity in your chart??

Hugs for purple_scorp, you are such an amazing soul

posted May 24, 2007 04:03 PM         

Maybe we are all scared and vulnerable -- but trying so hard not to seem that way...?

posted May 24, 2007 04:28 PM         

Yes, Future is still here! This post comes up from time to time, which lets me know that this issue is important. The best thing is knowing that you're not alone. Isn't that one of the great things about LL?

Before I respond, I want to revisit the old posts just to refresh. It's always amazing for me to see how this situation has evolved over the years... what has changed and what hasn't. I don't know that anything really goes away, but new lessons are learned and I adapt in certain ways. I look forward to rejoining this discussion.

Be back soon...

posted May 25, 2007 01:48 AM         

And then last night I read an old post of Zala's about Neptune in the 7th, which was terribly disconcerting. It was Liz Greene doing her typical psychological analysis of astrology, and like usual it was very damning and offered little by way of hope or even practicality, so I can't even decipher if I'm doing ok by myself since Neptune is supposed to be such a blind spot.

posted May 25, 2007 05:43 AM         

Exactly ...but strange for me to feel that way cause as a child, I did not have such problems with my parents..or am I trying to deny my own sensitivity as a child now? But I always seem to expect the worst, perhaps I am afraid to deal with the disappointment if I would think otherwise. Perhaps if I think that he may be angry at me now, and if he is really angry, then it won't get worst...!! so I am always prepared!

posted May 25, 2007 05:33 PM         

about the blind spot thing. There always comes a point when you do realize how much you had deluded yourself. the wakeup moment comes pretty early after a breakup. especially in such cases it is the other person who is able to see the truth sooner than the neptune influenced person, and breaks away, leaving the neptune person bewildered and confused as to what went wrong. so if u see that kind of a pattern with your past relationships, then it might be something to worry about. But i doubt it. I suspect its your virgo moon (does it square the neptune, btw?) getting worried over nothing.