posted January 17, 2006 04:21 PM         

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ps mars conj merc...maybe you are just afraid that our water will put out your fire! you probably should stay away from us fish people!

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posted January 17, 2006 04:27 PM         

One thing to add about Pisces is this. Every thought is weighed down by the gravity of every emotion that has ever touched it. Many times people's thoughts and ideas are not their own. They have been passed from pillar to post and carry the impression of a million perspectives all with emotional residue.

People too carry so much damaged energy about them. They lie to themselves and each other and persuade themselves that
everything is working just fine rather than facing the truth that they are broken. This results in connections that are strained, forced, twisted and manipulated. As a Pisces you are thrown into the midst of this. You see what no-one else sees, know what no-one else knows. Yet. It can be frightening and confusing. You question your own position on everything, thoughts, feelings, communication.

There isn't a manual to operate your senses and everyone else seems oblivious (even Cancers and Scorpios) to EVERY shade of human experience that invades your own.

The Sagittarius ability to float on effervescent ideaology and visions would be drowned out, your wings clipped. Your ability to think from your own perspective would be thwarted by so much conflicting information.

The Piscean vagueness and losing touch with reality is a SURVIVAL instinct, not a choice. It really is the ultimate test of strength of character. You can understand how many would crack a little under the strain.

But, this is our lesson and we must learn it. Try to not to be too harsh on the fish who struggle to cope my friend.

posted January 17, 2006 04:31 PM         

OMG! Yeah, Fire people are instinctively 'aware' of the Water people! Fish man and myself were aware of that right from the start. As a fire sign, yeah, i am not wanting water to put me out. And, symbolically, that is what fish man does to me. He coaxes me into the water, I go cold and my spark just dies. This happens because of the wishy washy thing. We could call it splishy splashy instead...Anyway, when I try to be not pushy and not questioning, it extinguishes my flame, takes the fuel from my fire! And when fish man has taken a walk in the fire, he has gotten burned. He just can't breathe when I am at my most...my most! so, i don't know what the draw is, but i do know it wouldnt be a permanent situation with him bc we are afraid of each other's basic elements. Somehow he takes my power from me. And, I do it to him, too. so there.

I think I needed to go through this excercise in futility to see that it IS me I need to fix. My virgo hubby isn't so bad, he just isn't emotionally hard-wired to me. I know he loves me as much as he loves anyone, it's just not the WAY I need. BTW- even though I have been the almost unfaithful one, I am SURE I am more in love with him than he will ever be with me. He is just so unemotional and logical! AT all times! When I have almost walked in the past, he really does make the college effort, and I stay because of the kids and all the history. He doesnt abuse me, he does support me. And the sex is amazing after 13 years. still. I guess that is maybe where he expresses his love. maybe sex and love are one for him?

posted January 17, 2006 04:38 PM         

Thanks for saying all that about Pisceneans! My experience with fish man was that he seemed to feel this way a lot.

Especially about the part of broken people and the way that they force, twist, etc...I am sure that for Pisces, that is very hard to see. Especially when someone you thought was a 'nice person' turns out to be 'seedy'.

gah. i sort of wanna die. but i am learning my lessons of humility.

posted January 17, 2006 05:44 PM         

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...seriously, perhaps, are you afraid of your "self?"...

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No.

You're all nice people. This forum is a good find.
Swerve you seem to have something in your chart i warm to. What is it please? There's alot of sense in you, and the way you put it across is NOTHING to do with any of your Pisces emphasis. Do you have Moon in Leo or msomething? Well written. I agree.

Not all Pisces are abhorant to me. For instance i met this Piscean bloke at work, and found him really genuine and nice. I'm going kickboxing with him tomorrow night.

posted January 17, 2006 05:57 PM         

I see the best in all of you, including yourself. We are all wonderful in our own way but find it difficult to express ourselves from the soul level and communciate in our purest form.

I saw what you were trying to say, why you weren't actually trying to offend anyone, have a troublesome past like you so understand your tendency for brutal honesty and your underlying compassion for possibly causing offence.

Every single problem in the world in my opinion comes from one thing - misunderstanding.

I like to think I can understand almost everyone.

I was only reflecting what I see in you, the warmth and insight that is already there. You praise your own ability to understand the point in truth without knowing it.