posted April 28, 2006 01:51 PM              

maybe he's afraid of jibes from his peer group ..
as in maybe " hey .. baby snatcher " .. or " you messing with jailbait"

if he does change radicaly when you turn 16 .. i would suspect his true motives ..
then again if your motive is to get laid .. then who knows what may happen ..

posted April 28, 2006 02:07 PM            

Do you want his birth details or his placements?
He is a Capricorn, which pretty much explains a lot. He has a Sag Moon, Scorpio Asc, Cap Merc, Pisces Venus, Pisces Mars. If you need more just say.

posted April 28, 2006 02:22 PM              

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anyhow was typing this to add to prev. plunge .. sort of like putting taurean hoove in puddle .. shall use skipping pebbles henceforth .. so ..

what i mean is that a person doen't change inside because the 'other' has suddenly become legaly sexualy availble .. .. action may change though ..
a persons 'head' or 'mindset' is (or should be) loads different to when they were 15 or 16 .. in astrology its mainly that first transit of Uranus .. posibly why 21 is seen as becoming an adult in many cultures .. ..
i can only realy see it from my perspective .. just can't imagine being attracted to a 16 year old girl when i was 21 .. friends maybe .. at a distance .. .. be just a big difference 'internaly' .. and thats reflected by the transits at that age .. and visa versa ..

*His main issue is the law. Ok, so he said he does care what other people think. I'm just trying to establish whether he will be more at ease with the whole idea once I'm over the age of consent. Or at least be able to flirt online again.*
again the Uranus transit comes to mind ...
is flirting online illegal ?? when under age ?? ..
at a guess he probably will more at ease when you are of legal age .. difficult to predict .. i'd say post a chart from astro.com .. but just name it different .. i.e. joe bloggzy or whomever .. if u want my e is in the profile thingy .. but i could not predict what a person Will do .. only the astrological energies he has to work with at the moment ..

and btw: have a read thru some of those Saturn posting in the astro forum .. it may throw some light on your friend's behaviour .. but should also show what aspects in a birth chart are about .. from a human psychological point of view .. ..
you probably know :-) .. the author is a Virgo ..

these are the links so far ..
Saturn aspects in the birth chart ..
and ... Saturn aspects to the Sun aspects .. L'z.G
* http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008975.html *
Saturn aspects to Venus aspects L'z.G
* http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008961.html *
Saturn aspects to Mars
* http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008980.html *

posted April 28, 2006 02:37 PM            

Go back and look at your topic on Sag Moons... You posted it around the holidays..
I can't tell you how many times I'ver gone back to it... I was in a relationship with a Scorpio/ Sag Moon... Back and forth an emotional pendulum...Like you, our Moons trined by aspect... but even by sign... it is wonderful when you are together but horrible when you aren't...for whatever reason....

Hope you sort it all out SOON!

posted April 28, 2006 07:22 PM              

*but can you really measure two people's mindsets at different stages in life against one another? *
it's the transits again .. maybe mindset 'aint the right word .. except i can't think of another .. i mean the realy easy and most useless answer would be " .. you'll understand when your older" .. which is a cop out for "i can't explain" .. .. aging in life is a bit like surviving a war .. to explain the feel of it to someone who hasn't lived thru it .. is nearly impossible .. .. although some people seem to be able to do a pretty good job of it ..

*Still, I realise the ages cause other problems, but the biggest hurdle I am almost over since surely 15/21 is the worst combination in a five-six year age gap..* .. i surely don't know if there is a "worst" combination gap .. i see it more of an emotional maturity gap (the age thing) .. maybe .. .. anyways the point is .. these major transits come along .. one goes thru them .. experiences what one experiences .. and come out the other side hopefuly wiser .. or in other words .. grown up in relationship to prior the transit ... ... so somewhere btwn 13 and 15 is the Saturn opposition .. then at 21 the Uranus square ( i.e. when they aspect their natal positions) ..

I checked a hypothetical chart for 15th Jan 1985 .. .. so most charts for that year will show transiting Uranus square natal Uranus .. so his mind isn't going to be where it were prior to the onset of the transit .. probably started to build up from early last year .. ... anyhow Cappys for that year show potential for having Venus and Mars square to natal Uranus .. so stands to reason your friend probably is dealing with a run of Uranus transits to those natal planets .. .. exciting unusual and impulsive attractions and relationships that could end a suddenly as they begin .. .. best of to research those transits .. in particular the Uranus square natal Uranus .. .. as it will also be coming your way in 6 years .. (it gets everyone at 21) .. .. also re the 1985 lot .. there is also a major transit with Lillith involved .. t'will probably get the hormones and fantasizing a'going will that one ..

whatever the case .. maybe see .. that it's useless to bang ones head on a wall over the unrequited "L" word .. over someone who isn't availble or attainable .. .. cause you only get a very sore head .. and now't else .. (maybe good for creative drama composing .. but do use a pillow .. )
.. just replace head to wall relating with .. tears and heartache .. and gutt'ache .. and everything else ache ..
.. and i'm willing to bet .. whatever the case .. you're bound meet someone new and you'll quickly get over any hurts of what you are going thru now .. .. quite honestly your sort of at the starting grid in the whole man - woman relating experience .. .. actually come to think of it .. one esteemed LL person(ality) recently likened 'men' to 'buses' .. so realy .. just stand at the bustop and you'll probably have a few arrive simultaneously .. but just don't expect them to come on time ..

anyhow .. what a person might do or not do under a Uaranus transit is about as unpredictable as the planet expresses itself in the natal chart .. freedom from authority .. an unwillingness to be confined emotionaly mentally or physicaly .. breaking free from restrictions .. be the 'pressure' flavour of an Uranian transit .. .. maybe breaking the rules could be attractive now for him .. but the added potential responsibility of a child may not be .. .. in any case mnf i guarantee you .. age differences seem loads less when one gets older .. they seem monumental when one is young .. i mean physical differences aside it's really a matter of mental and emotional maturity ..

i'm knackered and at the brain babble stage (i think .. or maybe not) .. don't even know if what i wrote makes sense ... ... alternative idea ; .. give me the chaps phone number .. i pose as yer long lost uncle from down under .. I ask him .. very friendly like .. just what his manly intentions are .. .. and then i report findings back to you .. :-))

posted April 29, 2006 03:40 PM            

HD- who knows what I'll be like in a few years time?? haha I dread to think! Glad you like my posts someone needs to acknowledge them ! I will check out that Saturn transit.
It's (very) recently come to light that (although I'm NOT, haha, talking about love here) the feelings are not exactly unrequited. The bloke in question has had one of his trademark changes of mind as far as I'm concerned and we had a very nice talk last night
As for 'meeting someone new'... well, I havnen't really seen anyone who quite matches up to him in my mind and I only usually go for older guys anyway, so the situation doesn't change.
Oh, and songs have been made! Believe me! haha catch you later HD...

posted April 30, 2006 11:06 PM            

Capricorn men are known to go for trophy wives. Since status is such a big deal to us, we often can't go on just chemistry alone. We want both chemistry, AND someone who will increase our value in the eyes of others. As such it can become really difficult for us to hang on to anyone who might embarrass us. It sucks having that constant push/pull between our both being deep, but also being a little superficial. One of our lessons is often learning who/what is good for us versus who/what we think we want.

I think most of us try to do the right thing and look at the big picture (and not be shallow).

Right now he seems a little confused, but a Capricorn confused is almost a sure sign that he doesn't think things are quite right. I was caught confused just a few weeks ago, and honestly she read me right. If I'm not putting much into the relationship, then I must not really want it terribly badly. Her and I had a great mental connection, and my Mars conjuncted her Venus, but I couldn't deal with her drama (Sun opposite Moon) or drinking habits. She wasn't someone I could be proud to be with.

posted May 03, 2006 01:58 AM              

seventeen gets a lot better.