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Topic: Scorps I need your advice
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writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 416
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted June 03, 2006 06:52 AM
 
Ohad- youre a pig with no depth,,MEN! oye. ------------------
"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit" "Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation" -Khalil Gibran Shop22much. IP: Logged |
Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 03, 2006 07:15 AM
<<<I wasn't "parroting" anyone - I haven't even read this whole thread because, oh, wait, I have a life that includes a child, husband, an education, and relatively active social life.
I was offering my opinion, nothing more - and I was doing so in a civil way, which is a bit more than I can say for you.You may try to continue this if you like, but attempted adult conversation with you's now been placed on my "not worth my time" list>>> The parroting part wasn't about you-it was about me-I was trying to explain why I didn't advice her to leave him. I can see why you mistook it for an insult though  , I'll try to be clearer next time. writesomething-...Yeah, no depth what so ever, good thing you got me figuered early on. ------------------
"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat." If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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sue g
Knowflake Posts: 5452
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted June 03, 2006 08:22 AM
I was just wandering how Rebecca was doing?  IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
Knowflake Posts: 341
From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 03, 2006 08:35 AM
>>>We don't even know how highly he values her appearance-for all we know he may just be worried about her health and trying to motivate her<<<Oh, Im sure he was truly concerned about her health. That's why he so desperately wants her to look like a pornstar, to save her.*tear*  Rebecca, I don't know what your decision will be, and I don't want to push you in any direction. But, I think that someone who considers physical appearance first before all other aspects in a marriage doesn't deserve the time of day from you. I mean, he needs to understand that people don't stay the same way forever, things happen to change appearances (like bearing children for example, which guys don't seem to understand). Who knows, the virgo probably is a better option. IP: Logged |
Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 03, 2006 09:36 AM
lol, it's possible, just not necessarily plausible  ------------------
"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat." If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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Dulce Luna
Knowflake Posts: 341
From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 03, 2006 09:47 AM
Possible, but highly unlikely....that's human nature my friend.*edit* Oh, and I wanted to ask...Ohad, would you by any chance happen to be a libra? IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Moderator Posts: 4023
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 03, 2006 02:01 PM
Proxieme, I adore you, and your post was fabulous!Rebecca. Thanks for the kudos.. I am a Scorpio woman (Capricorn Moon/Leo rising) married to an Aries with Sagittarius rising and his moon in his first house.
He is a sensitive , lovely and understanding man, who was sent here with the sole purpose of loving me, no matter how much I push him away sometimes. I have come to that conclusion.
I know that you know your limits and your values and what you will and will not tolerate, and no amount of support by way of a message board will change that, but it is nice to be heard and supported none-the-less.
If you have tried and are talking to a brick wall in your marriage... and again, we don't know all the details.. sometimes getting away and thinking for yourself, with little animosity, just a desire to reflect and find what you really feel is a good place within, to feel stronger to make some life altering decisions, can do wonders.
I wish you clarity.
Because whether the problem is you or him, there remains a problem, and until addressed, it will.. .remain. That's no fun.
That's the real 'weight' here. It's on your shoulders.
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Kim Rogers
Knowflake Posts: 187
From: Watertown MN USA
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted June 03, 2006 03:24 PM
Wow put ALL Scorpios in a room & there will be a love fest or a fight.So, how is Rebecca coming with her choices? PixlePixie, You are a wise woman. I really liked your first post, and evidently so did Rebecca. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 4528
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 03, 2006 04:24 PM
 Rebecca
My long reply will not post.
Will try later.
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-
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pixelpixie
Moderator Posts: 4023
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 03, 2006 08:11 PM
Thank you, Kim!Weeeeeeelllll.. I have my moments, when I am not talking out of my ass. (or Uranus)
*muffled words* 
I am entirely innapropriate and like to have fun too much. But occasionally, some sage crap comes out. I think maybe I am possessed.
*Naw, it's 'cuz I am turning thirty his year, inevitably, you experience things at a certain stage and lo-and-behold, you have opinions on EVERYTHING!!! ( How annoying!)
That being said, age is not wisdom... but it could be! Everyone has some nuggets in them.
For instance, my daughter, right now, contains 'Chicken Nuggets'(and french fries). I had Chinese food.... so now I'll read wisdom via an inch long piece of paper. I also never shut up.  IP: Logged |
lioneye68
Knowflake Posts: 5221
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted June 04, 2006 06:21 AM
Pix, you're such a groovy mix. Profound & silly all at once.  Honestly, Rebecca, I'd like to know what came first - the sexual frustration, or the over-eating? My bets are on the sexual frustration. IP: Logged |
peace
Knowflake Posts: 701
From: Honolulu,HI
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted June 04, 2006 07:35 AM
1.Sexual frustration
2.Over eating He'd go to strip joints.As I sit there watching him looking at other women.Yep,very disappointed. Rebecca IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 5452
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted June 04, 2006 08:12 AM
Jeeeez Rebecca.....get away from him girl and quick....This guy has no respect by the sounds of it..... Run, run, run, as fast as you can... He sounds totally insensitive.....uuugghhh!!! IP: Logged |
Green Fairy
Knowflake Posts: 163
From:
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted June 04, 2006 08:35 AM
OMG..dump the mother*****r for good!!!!
You don't desrve such treatment,noone does.IP: Logged |
Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 04, 2006 11:58 AM
Hmm...apparently this guy is consistently insensitive...well, you've got to do what you've got to do.Dulce-Libra asc. and venus
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"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat." If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 4528
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 04, 2006 12:22 PM
Ok..
I tried several times to post. Will try here in two parts.Quote:
"but how can you expect a man to have sex with a women he's not attracted to? It's physically impossible."
WOW!
I do not know whether to laugh at the absurbity of that ridiculous concept, or cry! 
REBECCA!
Having went the gamit of 94 pounds to over 400 plus pounds, and back and forth many times(mostly health reasons, two serious accidents, and temporary paralysis, bedridden, thyroid shut down and more crap.)
I understand how weight is a health issue but should NEVER be a reason to reject a person!
Impossible to make love? That is ridiculous!
Except when partially paralyzed, my lovers and potential lovers and spouse #2 and #3 never had a problem with it! And only my first ex had a problem with it, but it was not my weight at all that he found unappealing! He said it was, but his lovers were all much larger than me at those times. When my ribcage was larger than my boobs and knees bigger than my thighs, I was still too fat to him. See, I was 14 when we met. And only 4'11 tall and 94 pounds. I had a 17 and 1/2 waist.
Well I got OLDER. I grew to a huge(in his eyes!) 145pounds and 5'4 and 1/2 inches tall.
I measured 36-26-32....very boyish thin and athletic/muscular.
But to him I was fat!
I gave birth years later. OMG! I was now 210pounds!
I lost it and got to 170pounds. I had become anemic and my thyroid failed me. Ulcers from crazy crash diets and stress from all that. I was tested for body mass ratios, my fat to muscle levels at a hospital. My lean mass was 152 pounds! That meant that at 145 I had "eaten" 7 pounds of my own "muscle"!
My electrolytes were screwed up so bad.
I was informed I should weigh between 170 and 190 pounds. That put me at 12% to 22% body fat. Normal for a woman is up to 33%.
But I was still fat to him because I was no longer that 94 pound "little girl" he knew when we first met.
And then being a mom, well he was grossed out about doing it with a mom. A nursing mom.
Then finally having enough of his games I divorced him. I was pursued by several younger men. Fit buff fellows! One persisted and even after I got in a terrible accident and gained weight rapidly(meds, bedridden and worse..)he married me and never called me fat or ugly. We broke up for other reasons. But sex was never a problem...as far as attractiveness, he never found me ugly. Just larger.
Then I divorced him. Soon after I met several other new younger "thin" or buff men! And a few very fit older gents.I had knocked off about a hundred pounds. Still 300 plus....but for some reason these dears thought I was sexy!
I was 42 years old. The fellows' ages ranged from 18 to 56.
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS- IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 4528
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 04, 2006 12:33 PM
Well I am and have been happily married to the then 28 year old fellow! 
Why did all these fellows like me? Find me sexy? Buy their own words...
Because I was ME! NO GAMES! I was not acting ashamed of myself or desperate.
I treated them with respect and did not try to seduce them!
I was not acting like a desperate for a man, middle aged FAT woman with a cane.
I made them feel safe and comfortable. They got to know ME, not my body first.
Unlike ex husband #1.
And I got to know them...NOT their sexy young bodies!(Oh for sure the view was indeed lovely though!). A couple of them actually got hurt when I said no to sex with them. But I did not want just that, even from such handsome gents! Three wanted me to become their roomates. Friends with benefits of course!
Continued next post...for some reason posting is goofy. ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS- IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 4528
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 04, 2006 12:36 PM
Ok...
Last bit! But I only chose one.
The man I am happily married to.
And my husband does not find me ugly. Nor is sex impossible or avoided because I am old and fat to some folks way of thinking. The body size, age and shape is not an issue when minds, hearts, and souls merge. In unions where there is love and respect and understanding, beauty is Not body dependant.
Oh yes, as a gift of health to myself, and a gift of more agilty to walk and ride bikes, and yes make more inventive love Kama Sutra style....I will keep losing weight for me and for him.
But it is not a requirement, and love and sex are Not put on hold until I get thin again! In fact love making can be and is a great inspiration to weight loss insentive, emotional well being, and a VERY nice form of exercise!
But to reject you for weight issues?
That is insane!
Go to counseling Rebecca.
Get him to go.
Or if he will not...then move on with your life.
Like I did.
I feel it is better to be alone than to be with a selfish jerk who cannot see you, but only your body. Let him find a trophy wife who will leave him when he gets bald and potbellied and old.
Now I do not know your history, or how heavy you are, or how you got that way.
If it is related to overeating or previous episodes of eating, purging, binging, and anoexia, then PLEASE see a counselor and or a doctor.
Being too fat or too thin for good health is rarely if ever as simple as it may appear to others. It is a complex issue of health and psychological/emotional things.
Funny.
Ex husband #1 is now old and fat.
Skinny when I was with him, and he called me fat. He weighs what I peaked at when I was his wife.
Good luck Rebecca. 
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Kim Rogers
Knowflake Posts: 187
From: Watertown MN USA
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted June 05, 2006 10:13 PM
I knew the issue had to be more than weight. Don't allow yourself to be turned into a grey lizard! Been there-done that. Still recovering, & starting to preen my feathers.  IP: Logged |
peace
Knowflake Posts: 701
From: Honolulu,HI
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted June 17, 2006 07:05 AM
I did it! .One question.Why is he afraid to admit that he has feelings for me?.Anyone?.Rebecca IP: Logged |
sthenri
Moderator Posts: 4142
From: Generic New England City
Registered: May 2003
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posted June 17, 2006 09:10 AM
I would never tell this woman what to do, I would tell her to do what SHE wants to do.Whether that's leave her husband, lose weight, leave town, whatever she wants! It's not a PARTNERSHIP if one is not meeting the love needs of another, that's a roomate situation. Natasha
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Kim Rogers
Knowflake Posts: 187
From: Watertown MN USA
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted June 18, 2006 04:22 PM
Hey Rebbeca,How do you feel now!? Back to your question. In my experience men that are emotionally abusive will either wait a bit & try to convince you that they will change... or they have this mental defect that makes them think that you are the one who will be missing out on a good thing. They may even have delussions that you will come crawling back-begging for forgiveness. Despite the fact that he hurt you, he probably thinks he is a great guy, & is hurt that you could even consider another man over him. Anyway, I hope your choice works out like I think it might. ------------------
"When the student is ready the teacher will appear" IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
Knowflake Posts: 443
From:
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted June 19, 2006 01:15 PM
Here are the lyrics to Ohad's song. I like you, Ohad, but  man."What a surpriser
Open your eyes, A
Woman advisor The name of this entertainment is women lose weight
Our first years of marriage everything was just great
But after two kids and the weight gain factor
The fact is now she's completely unattractive
Look, fat chicks, I don't mean to sound rude
I tell her nice hit the gym and don't eat so much food
But no, 'You're shallow, you need to run the course of unconditional love and
so forth'
But how, If desire's not there that's just delayment
Divorce is, child support, alimony payments
My happiness I doubt discouraged
So hurry for an easier way out of this marriage Meanwhile my secretary June, well groomed
'When you gonna leave your wife?'
I tell her soon monny soon I assume
Or my destiny is blue
Interestingly the only thing left for me to do
Is to kill her What a surpriser
Open your eyes, A
Woman advisor I'm going to have to kill her
Of course there's laws which enforces divorces
I'm send that ass right
To the morgue miss
My plans against or shenanigans kinda ran thin
Knowing nothing about poisoning and I can't swim
Bad intentions pumping, might as wall become numb
Cut her lungs or the obvious robbery gone wrong
But the catch is do I have the nerve to dispatch this
Who can I get to help me murder this fat chick?
I guess I'll have to play a dude robbing
On Wednesday the day she usually goes food shopping
Anyway, long story shor; hit the side of her Chrysler
And sent it clean over the divider
You ******* she said as the wreck went tumbling down the hill
I thought she has to be dead
Later on, ger a call from a Lieutenant O'Rourke
Had me leaping like a frog
"We need you at the morgue'
So I selfishly pursue
Boo Hoo there was nothing else left for me to do
I have to kill her What a surpriser Screaming who done took my heart
Acting shaken up a lot At the funeral, though everyone was looking at me odd
Like I did it
Like I was the reason my mates slain
Murmuring, I heard he was displeased with her weight gain
While my secretary, sort of a sexy blonde, can't look
All she doea is order from restaurants
All of the sex you want
I doubt could address
Clothes not washed proper and house look a mess
And talking to detectives that was waiting outside
How I took a long lunch break day the wife died
I darn near turned pale
And because of betrayal
They indicted me and gave me an impossible bail Good fortune to anyone admiring the rawtent
Moral of the story is desire is important
So watch your weight it will keep your mate smitten
It's a given
Though looking back I realise I didn't have to kill her What a surpriser Well there you have it
Keep trim keep your marriages healthy
You know what I mean
A small message from Morcheeba adn Slick Rick ruler Peace"
"Peace"?
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Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 19, 2006 01:38 PM
Heh, it isn't all supposed to be taken seriously, it's just a humorous song with a serious message at the end, which is Slick Rick's speciality, he gets your attention with the beat and humor, and then try to get his real message across. Slick Rick is actually a very smart rapper, with a lot anti-drugs, anti-misogny and anti-crime messages(listen to "children's story" for example).
I do know I've got a weird sense of humor though, with my Capricorn stellium in the third house and Uranus...My Idea of a light-hearted song is "Last Caress" by the Misfits.
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"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat."
If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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lioneye68
Knowflake Posts: 5221
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted June 20, 2006 03:04 PM
It's sadly true. Few men are able to love the person for the actual person, except maybe their moms. Their moms can be as fat as they want. But, then again, they're not expected to sleep with their moms. What if we stay thin, but get old? Wrinkles? Bags under the eyes? Silver hair? Out to pasture with us, I suppose. I'm NEVER getting married. Not if it means my husband will use up my youth, then be done with me eventually *sigh* IP: Logged | |
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