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Topic: Scorps I need your advice
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Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 22, 2006 12:27 AM
 
Come on Lioneye, we both know that thats BS, there are plenty of men who'll stick by their women for eternity, people just don't discuss this as much because talking about how your grandparents stayed together for forty years isn't as interesting as "OMG I heard her husband left her for his Secretary!"------------------
"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat." If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 22, 2006 12:28 AM
dp
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"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat."If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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MysticMelody
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posted June 22, 2006 12:57 AM
Hey Ohad, 
Women beat themselves down due to body image and when we are sane enough to see reality we know this abuse stems from comments men make (like the one you made earlier) and actions men take to reinforce those comments.
Since you are young, you can stop yourself from a lifetime of words and actions that will cause women that much more pain.
And the happier she is... the more beautiful she will become.
Right, Ohad?  Love for us ladies, all shapes and sizes Yes?IP: Logged |
peace
Knowflake Posts: 701
From: Honolulu,HI
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted June 22, 2006 08:16 PM
Sue G,
I went out with him.Why does the Virgo male friend afraid to admit he has feelings for me?.Rebecca IP: Logged |
Kim Rogers
Knowflake Posts: 187
From: Watertown MN USA
Registered: Apr 2006
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posted June 22, 2006 10:17 PM
Oh sorry,I thought you meant that other guy.  I was wondering why you cared. There could be a lot of reasons for his holding back: Are you still living with hubby? He may be afraid you're on the rebound, & he's just a fling. Maybe things are moving quickly, & it caught him off guard. Virgos don't usually rush into anything; they think it through. Maybe it just seems too good to be true. Have you really talked to Virgo about what all of this means as far as the future is concerned? If yes, than he's probably going over everything in his head. Scorpio is a rushing river; Virgo is the earth of the river bottom & the river banks. They can't move in the fluid mannor as we do. Give him a chance to catch up or catch his breath. ------------------
"When the student is ready the teacher will appear" IP: Logged |
Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 23, 2006 10:53 AM
MysticMelody-See, that's the thing, I don't make it a women/men issue, I try to treat every person as a person-without undue descrimination. That doesn't mean I don't act like an a-hole sometimes(I still don't think I said something offensive, though), but I act like an a-hole to men and women alike.------------------
"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat." If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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sue g
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From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted June 23, 2006 11:23 AM
Hey PeaceI can only speak of my own man.....shyness. caution, etc....well its only after 17 years that I truly know that he adores and loves me . He has found it hard to show his feelings in the past but that doesnt mean he didnt feel them....on the contrary, he says now he always adored me, but found it hard to show it, at times. You may find as time goes on he will learn to trust you more and then he will open up. I lie not when I say to you my relationship is stronger and more passionate now than it ever was, but I feel with Virgo men, you have to be patient and NOT in their face.... xxx IP: Logged |
sue g
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From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted June 23, 2006 11:25 AM
Oh yeahAnd if your Virgo is similar, you have to be prepared to have the rise taken out of ya...and to know how to get his humour, which can be all but subtle at times...Ive found they can be masters of sarcasm, which I love, but of course some people dont get that.... Try and get it if you can, and you will have partly won him over... IP: Logged |
Mama Mia
Knowflake Posts: 1025
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Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 23, 2006 11:33 AM
I feel with Virgo men, you have to be patient and NOT in their face....Sue that is true, I know this after having a 10 year relationship/friendship with my lil one's dad and another Virgo who I have been knowing even longer. Water moon Virgo guys are better at understanding then Air or Fire..Read their mars sign as well..My lil one's dad has moon in Gem, Mars in Aqua,,, oh boy!!! IP: Logged |
sue g
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From: former land of the leprechaun
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posted June 23, 2006 01:52 PM
You understand where I am comig from MMMy man has Moon in Aqua and Mars in Sag.....as well as Sag rising (ouch).... Not one of my fave signs Sag tbh. If I remember rightly he has a stellium in the 9th house tooooooo..... Foot in mouth or what...but he does it in such a non aggressive way, its almost sexy...in a devilish and smouldering way. He is sexy, sensual, and good to me, especially of late,,,,,so I say...... Stick with that Virgo man!!!!!!
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MysticMelody
Knowflake Posts: 443
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted June 23, 2006 04:33 PM
Well, good luck with that. You aren't going to get very far with women by treating them the same as you would treat a man. People are different and have different sensitivities, which is why astrology is helpful. We learn to see things from different perspectives and learn to understand these different points of view the best we can.
I was just giving you a little insight into women... but if you wanna do it YOUR way...
Again....Good luck with that!  hehe
The whole point is that it doesn't matter if YOU consider it offensive. It's offensive if it OFFENDS. And you offended a few women here immediately. But if that's what you want to do... and you don't care...
umm Good luck with that?IP: Logged |
pidaua
Knowflake Posts: 4803
From: Bisbee, Arizona
Registered: May 2002
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posted June 23, 2006 05:19 PM
No matter what a woman (or man does) they can never win. They will never be pretty enough, smart enough or thin enough... IF they were with a narcissistic control freak.This many told his wife he didn't want to have sex because she was fat BUT if she looked like a porn star (PLASTIC) that would be another story. Hmm... I think there is more than just a woman packing on a few pounds. In reality, I was afraid my ex-Taurus was going to end up being that 400lb fat man on oxygen eating bon bon's while watching Soap Opera's or playing X-box- well, truth is that could be him.. and will be him. In any case, I would not have tolerated sleeping with someone like that.. YUCK!!! In the same respect, if let myself go and got to the blimpy range, what does that say about how my feelings are for him? I firmly believe that two people in real love can whether the effects of getting old. We will wrinkle, we get waddle and some will lose hair- but we still have each other. I can't wait to be that old couple that walks in the park or sits on the front porch swing watching people walk by with my old wrinkled, depends wearing Teddy-Bear (leo).
I could never say that about any of my other ex's and that's key. DON'T marry a person you can see getting old with. DON'T marry a person that you can see developing a certain way (bald, fat, wrinkled) if you can't handle it...
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Ohad
Knowflake Posts: 79
From: Maale-Adumim, Israel
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 24, 2006 12:28 PM
MM-I didn't say that I don't care, I just have a different point of view on the issue.
You shouldn't let stuff like that get to you.------------------
"When the odds are against you, keep calm and cheat." If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around and it kills a mime, does anyone care?
-Terry Pratchett A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
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miss_muffet
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Registered: Mar 2004
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posted June 24, 2006 12:32 PM
I think Pidua said it all.I understand what Ohad is trying to say... but it really doesn't apply in the context of this post. What I mean is: if the wife gains a few pounds due to normal process(you can gain a few pounds when you get older) and as long as she didn't gain 60 lbs in 5 years... the husband needs to get his head examined, or maybe he doesn't really love his wife. But if she did gain a LOT of weight, then, I think she should go out and get help as it is not only a beauty issue but also a health issue. NOW, back to the husband, if he really did say that he will only have sex with the wife if she looks like a porn star (this is all hearsay), then he is a TOTAL jerk! Why did he marry the wife? did she looked like a porn star when they got married? All in all, getting married doesn't mean that you can neglect your looks and "gain a few pounds". I truly believe that love has a habit of flying out the window when the person you love change from being a size 4 to a size 14. Sorry, just my own opinion. I think BOTH parties (men & women) should NOT stop taking care of themselves just because they are married and is getting older. I had just had the opportunity to meet a lovely woman of 52 who doesn't look a day over 40. She's not skinny by any means, but she looked good, eat healthily and exercise. She also has 2 kids aged 25 & 23. When I get to that age, I hope that I will look just as good. The point is: There is no excuse good enough (for me anyways) to gaining 50 lbs just because you are old. And NO man of mine will EVER turn around and say I refuse to make love to you because you are fat! Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 5452
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted June 24, 2006 01:04 PM
I was married to a very overweight man, he was around 250 pounds and even tho he was over 6ft tall, was dangerously overweight.....he knew this....!!!But that wasnt one of the reasons I left him or decided to end our marriage. Some people wondered why I was with him, he wasnt particulary handsome and he was "fat" but I found him to have amazing charisma and personality. Looking back though, he should have taken better care of himself.....I was very easy on him....too easy....he could have had a heart attack cos of his obesity, especially as he drank and smoked... But I loved him....simple as that !!! IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
Knowflake Posts: 341
From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 24, 2006 06:38 PM
You know, It really says alot about a person who puts an emphasis on looks in a MARRAIGE. 
I know maybe you don't want your spouse to completely let go of themselves and that's understandable....but come on this is just ridiculous. I can't believe people are actually defending this guy.
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sue g
Knowflake Posts: 5452
From: former land of the leprechaun
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posted June 24, 2006 06:45 PM
I cant believe he is being defended either.....uuuugghhhhh.....he would be out on his ear if he treated me this way.....IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
Knowflake Posts: 341
From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 24, 2006 06:49 PM
Yeah for real, this thread is starting to p*ss me off. The guy obviously has the emotional depth of a puddle....he should be thrown out on his a$$.IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted June 24, 2006 07:27 PM
Sorry DL,Not meant to upset you. Just trying to understand the situation and putting myself in his shoes... If my husband gained 50 lbs in 5 years... would I still be attracted to him? would I still want to make love to him? And my answer would be NO. I will still love him, sure. But I will probably not want to have sex with him and would be bugging him to try and control his weight.
Although, my approach to this issue with him would be very very different... I will be more cautious of not hurting his feelings, etc. This guys approach is way beyond caring. It appears to me that he doesn't care about his wife anymore... Miss Muffet
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Dulce Luna
Knowflake Posts: 341
From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 24, 2006 08:03 PM
Sorry Miss Muffet, I didn't mean to single you out, I just don't like where this thread has headed with certain people condoning this man's behavior. I did understand that you were NOT doing this.
But just from listening to this story, something tells me that weight may not really be the issue. It's either that he's fickle, he's just doing this to keep her down for control, or he's insecure himself. I mean, the guy goes to strip clubs on a regular basis....do you honestly think he's a studly catch himself?
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MysticMelody
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted June 25, 2006 01:03 PM
Ohad, I wasn't upset or being rude to you, I was trying to convey a light hearted teasing tone to take some of the heat off of you since you are still a kid. You're on your own now.For the young people who think they won't gain as they age... unless you are eating practically a vegan diet on a regular basis, or you exericise at the gym or jog 4 or more times a week, you WILL gain weight after age 30. If you are sitting at the computer with a bag of Doritos and a Pepsi in your hand while you judge the overweight married folk, you are living in an ignorant delusion.
The only person who honestly knows your lifestyle and habits is yourself, so I'm not talking to anyone in particular. Just wanted to make a point.
For the ladies who are supporting the woman this thread is about... very nice. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted June 25, 2006 11:19 PM
Hmmm...LOL... It's no delusion. And most certainly not ignorant. I am almost 40 and no. I did not gain weight. I still maintain my weight and weighed the same from since I was 25. No, I do not jog, or exercise. My exercise for the most part is running after my 5 year old. But I certain do not "sit at my computer eating Doritos and drinking Pepsi", nor do I starve myself to maintain my weight. I eat as healthily as I can when I can, and I am almost always sitting at my computer, seeing that it is part of my career. It's all about knowing your body and knowing what you can and cannot eat. It is possible when you believe you can do it. If you start believing that gaining weight after 30 is all part of life, the tendency is that you would start eating Doritos and drinking Pepsi! Both are really not good for you and will give you a boost in gaining weight much much faster. Get rid of the junk food in your fridge and see how much healthier you can feel before or after 30 - not to mention all the money you can save Sigh... sorry for turning this thread into a beauty/weight issue. I do support her. I hope she meets someone who can give her strength to find herself and who would appreciate her as she is and not try to turn her into something she isn't. He doesn't deserve her. Peace, Miss Muffet
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MysticMelody
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posted June 26, 2006 03:28 AM
What part of "I'm not talking to anyone in particular" did you not understand?I don't even remember the usernames in the message unless they are people who talk directly to me. I just read the thread and reply to the general idea unless I am addressing someone directly. I'm not fat, so if you usually get your jollies out of lording your weight over the "fat chicks" you missed your mark.
I said that if young people sit at their computers with Pepsi and Doritos thinking that weight gain would NEVER happen to THEM, it's an ignorant delusion. Ignorant meaning they haven't learned enough about the subject to know what they are talking about and delusional meaning they are living in media created fantasy world. If you have great metabolism, goody for you. If you eat right then you've just made my point.
I'm sorry I made you feel like you had to defend yourself, but my regret is overshadowed by how annoyed I am that I had to defend MYSELF. That was anything but "peace"ful and if you can bring yourself to just not reply to me further or just say a short evil reply so you can get in the last word so that I don't have to engage with you further, I would appreciate it. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted June 26, 2006 09:50 AM
ROFL!!!  IP: Logged |
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