posted September 30, 2006 11:41 PM              

I have Venus in the 7th, and it's conjunct Neptune, all in Sagittarius. But I also have Saturn in the 5th.

So I NEED to get married! For other people with Venus in the 7th, they may be happy enough being in a relationship here or there. That just won't do for the lifestyle I want to live.

The reason I think Im not married yet in astrological terms is because I the Neptune that is conjunct my Venus, is also involved in a T-square. It is square Moon and Saturn. Not to mention, I have Saturn in the 5th house. Oh and I can't forget, Jupiter which is my 7th house ruler opposes my Sun, Mars and Mercury.

To translate: People have said I don't make the effort to find or get to know guys. That is very true. It's hard to when all the guys around me follow another culture and religion. I dont want to have to deal with any problems from extended family and with the way I want to raise my children.
It's also hard to find the right guy considering the area where I live and the people that I know (or don't know). It takes way too much effort than Im willing to maintain and lots of networking. Tried networking and tired of it...it's not fun when I make too many friends, rather acquaintances I have to work on keeping contact with and not find the marriage material I had the intent on finding originally.

So I feel Im left to go for the arranged marriage route because I have problems finding a suitable guy on my own. Never thought that I would have to resort to this being born and raised a Canadian. I thought I could find a guy like me in university. University was nice...but the damn Catch 22 in my religion...the guys and girls for the most part keep separate and mingle at a minimum out of "respect". So I barely got to know most of the guys I would consider as marriage potential...and get to talking about marriage. And for many of those guys marriage doesn't work that way either...it's usually through the family. And my family was in another city, didnt pay much attention to me as they were still preoccupied with their other younger kids. Who am I kidding, my parents are unreliable in that department!!

This coming winter Jupiter will conjunct my DC, and Saturn will trine my Venus/Neptune conjunction. This is a definitely favourable for marrriage. And I will be going overseas at this time, so there is a good chance I'll find someone compatible. I know some family members have a few guys in mind...it's kind of exciting, but kind of scary...because I do want to live here. And if I do find a guy there we have to have some commonalities. The religion and values and part of the culture will be there, but there will still be a bit of a cultural difference because Im born and raised here. Another possible problem could be that he might encounter difficulties finding and settling into a good job here. Canada is notorious for denying foreign academics work at their level of education and training.

There is another problem. My Saturn return wont be happening for another two years! I've read that because my Saturn is in the 5th house that I shouldn't get married before this return happens.

This is driving me insane!

posted October 01, 2006 12:04 AM              

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Saturn trine Venus: It can happen now

Mid October 2006 until end of July 2007: This is an excellent time for you to achieve real stability in your relationships. Your individual personal needs will not conflict with the demands of the relationship, and you can base them on a realistic understanding of who you are and what others need from you. Your vision is clear, and you are not likely to enter a relationship under the spell of romantic illusions. If you are romantically inclined, in fact, your relationships may seem rather practical and dull now. However, you can use this kind of experience. A relationship should be an encounter between yourself and another individual that helps you define and understand yourself more clearly. That can happen now.

Sometime in the last few years many relationships that were inappropriate for your life were weeded out. That process may have been quite painful, but it was necessary at the time. Now, however, the only relationships left are those that have real value in your life. You should be working on them to improve your understanding of yourself and how you relate to others. This is a time for growth relationships that expand your awareness. For this reason, you may have a relationship in which there is a considerable age difference between you and your partner. The one who is "older and wiser" may act as a guide, exposing the other, through the dynamics of the relationship, to a larger and more realistic view of the world.

Also this influence favors most business and professional relationships, because you now are able to negotiate on the basis of your real needs and self-understanding while appreciating the other person's real needs. And since you understand the need for realism in relationships, whatever you decide on at this time will be mutually profitable.

Creativity under this influence is not stimulated or checked, but it does have greater discipline and rigor. You may be attracted to difficult and exacting techniques or involved in particularly painstaking craft forms. Anything that you make now is likely to be practical or useful.

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Jupiter conjunction Descendant: Mutual growth

25 December 2006 until 3 January 2007: During this period you seek to grow in various ways through your closest contacts with other people. You try to create relationships that will further your life, not in a spirit of selfishness, but in a desire for mutual growth. Often at this time a person will come into your life who offers to help you out in some way, usually through a partnership.

In business, for example, this is an extremely good time to enter into a partnership or a contract with someone. In your personal life, you will work more closely than usual with someone, which will work out very well for you both. If other indications are compatible, you may meet someone who will be important to you romantically, but that is not the usual result of this influence.

This is also an excellent time to seek out someone for counseling, especially a lawyer, but also any other kind of counselor. Related to this, incidentally, is that if you have a case in court at this time, it will work out as you want it to.

A marriage or intimate relationship should work better than usual now. You and your partner will be anxious to help each other grow and to further each other's interests in all possible ways. You do not want to restrict your partner or be restricted by him in any possible way. Because you understand the need for freedom of individual self- expression within your relationship, you will try to find ways to bring that about. If your relationship is not working out very well in general, this influence can have either of two effects. It can either bring a time of healing in the relationship so that it ceases to be such a problem, or it can make your desire for freedom so strong that you break off the relationship altogether. At any rate, the problems themselves will cease. And a relationship that does break up under this influence (this only applies to one that is on the rocks) will do so relatively amicably.

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posted October 01, 2006 12:11 AM              

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Saturn Aspecting the Ascendant: The Ascendant shows how you start things. Saturn will tend to make you cautious and careful here. Even an "charge-right-in" sign like Aries on the Ascendant will be slowed by this one. The stressful aspects also incline to extra delays in the marriage and partnership area. If you have a stressful aspect of Saturn to the Ascendant, don’t get married before your first "Saturn return". This is the time when Saturn returns to the place it occupied when you were born, and it occurs between the ages of 28 and 30. This aspect is similar to the effect of having Saturn in the 7th House. A marriage before age 28 has an increased chance of failure. The affection slowly decays until there is nothing left. Tell your fiancée they will have to wait.

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Will also have Saturn in the 5th house during the return:

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Saturn Transits Through Your Fifth House: This is the house of love, romance, creativity, and children. No, it does not mean that your are going to be celibate for the next two years (well, not always). In fact, during this transit, it is possible to have a really deep, significant love affair. But you are less likely to have light, breezy affairs and one night stands. Saturn transits tend to coincide with things that are deep and serious. Frequently, you reach a turning point in relationships. Get married or break up. Saturn transits are not good for leaving things up in the air. Of course you have to take this in context. Saturn going through the 5th House of a child will not cause trouble with love affairs (at least, I hope not). But it could mean trouble with fun and games. They could be more likely to loose a favorite toy, for instance. You never can tell, however. I had a client once who wanted me to look at the chart of his 5 year old daughter. She had Jupiter and Mars transits to her 5th House that summer (these tend to be more fun than Saturn transits). I told him that this was a shame because they tended to love affairs and that it was a waste to have these transits hit at that age. We laughed about it. At the end of the summer, he called me to say that his daughter had fallen in love with a 12 year old boy and she was writing him love letters. At least with Jupiter and Mars she was cheerful about it. Saturn would be more likely to bring depression. In the areas of creativity, sports, and games, Saturn transits will either coincide with times when you have to give up an activity in these areas (you’re 95 years old; time to give up professional football) or an increase in ambition and discipline. Serious about jogging or doing creative work? Put yourself on a schedule and practice, practice, practice. Time for ambition and discipline. If you have young children --- well, there are always problems, aren’t there? There just seem to be more of them when Saturn transits your 5th House. The kids are grown? There are still problems now. Maybe they want to move back. Maybe they move far away and you miss them. Saturn always means some sort of challenge and an obstacle to be overcome.

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(bobmarksastrologer.com)

posted October 01, 2006 12:22 AM              

Transiting Saturn will return back to my natal saturn in the 5th house and square my Ascendnant/Descendant, before it will have the chance to oppose my Moon, then square my Neptune in the 7th to form a T-square. As Saturn moves down the degrees it will then square my Venus in 3 years!!

posted October 01, 2006 03:48 AM            

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my Saturn is in the 5th house that I shouldn't get married before this return happens.

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This is definitely a biased opinion. I've met people with Saturn in the 5th and 7th house who got married on their Saturn return (which is supposed to be indicative of a long stable marriage) anf divorced 6 months/5 years later.

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This is sooo depressing!!! I hate astrology.

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I guess you hate your fears not astrology...you've only looked at your transits but what about progressions (1 degree - 1 year; 1 day - 1 year, 30 degrees - 1 year, etc) solar charts, etc??? Have you checked them all? I don't think so. So cheer up and keep studying astrology, its amazing!

posted October 01, 2006 07:00 AM              

I don't know...Im just confused about whether astrology runs my life or if I actually do.

I havent checked out the progressions...Im still not familiar with that one and dont understand its signficance. Neither have I taken a look at the solar chart. My progression chart right now is pretty dull. Nothing in the 7th house. My DC is on Capricorn, it's ruler Saturn in the 4th in Virgo, square Neptune in Sag, and opposite the Sun and Moon in Pisces. I have Pluto in the 5th, in wide aspected square to Venus in the 8th for a few years. And Venus opposes Jupiter for a number of years too.

posted October 01, 2006 05:59 PM              

I found a good article on Saturn Return for those with Saturn in a mutuable sign:
http://www.ericfrancis.com/daily_june4.html

posted October 02, 2006 10:52 PM              

You are young still so don't feel so much anxiety, there is no reason you will not get married. Men are more marriage minded as they get older too.

Be sure to keep an open mind and make friendships as well as pursuing marriage options.

One of these men may turn out to be a great friend, keep that in mind and don't turn that down. Good relationships come from friends first.

In the end, if you are looking for marriage material then your future husband will have strong positive saturn aspects.

Good luck and have fun,

Natasha
Taurus/Cancer

posted October 02, 2006 11:41 PM              

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I have Saturn in the 5th and went through my return. I'd say the relationships that were not stable did falter then but the lasting ones did not. I did feel more like being a couple at that time.

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that's good to know!! Does your Saturn make aspects to other planets?

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You are young still so don't feel so much anxiety, there is no reason you will not get married. Men are more marriage minded as they get older too.

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the anxiety comes and goes...it's my pisces moon

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Be sure to keep an open mind and make friendships as well as pursuing marriage options.

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good point...Id be foolish not to keep an open mind and make friendships along the way.

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In the end, if you are looking for marriage material then your future husband will have strong positive saturn aspects.

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Im thinking there will be a Saturn and Neptune/Venus influence...hopefully the positive kind.

posted October 10, 2006 01:05 AM              

When will you marry?http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003933.html

Your marriage year - try it out! http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008481.html

Transits And Marriage http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/002035.html
(something on Saturn sq Uranus)

Marriage Study and Astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009183.html

posted October 11, 2006 01:02 AM              

Hope he proposes on a favourable day