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sweetnsassy
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posted November 09, 2006 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetnsassy     Edit/Delete Message
This guy whom I like constantly has me puzzled as to what he really is like. This is the same Piscean I talked about in the other thread " Help me figure out my Piscean ". SO comin' to point, externally speaking he, at first sight appears totally sure of himself, slightly intimidating, curt but freindly with a mysterious knowing smile playing on his lips. He's real brainy, actually more hard working than smart. He's egoistic as hell but is a caring friend. At first its almost like his sharp eyes are closely scrutinizing you, and then he , if satisfied lets his guard down and bares his heart for you to see him for the generous, soft-hearted, very sensitive, caring guy that he actually is. At times he is amazingly warm then there are these times when he is barely on friendly terms. I really like him a lot but unable to summon the nerve but how do I know if he likes me or not ?Sure we bond amazingly well, almost like we have this weird connection between the two of us and he understands me like no one else has ever been able to. I don't know his time of birth, would it be possible to cast a general horoscope without knowing time ? date of birth twenty fourth february, 1989. I think his analytical mind and all might have something to do with virgo .Sad and puzzling thing is that he exhibits both fire and water traits, so how do I determine which exactly he is ? help !

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eyes_like_a_pisces
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posted November 09, 2006 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_a_pisces     Edit/Delete Message
This might be of some help http://alabe.com/freechart/ it won't be 100% accurate but pretty close it allows you to use 12:00 for unknown birthtime.

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Cappadora
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posted November 09, 2006 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappadora     Edit/Delete Message

Hey there sweetnsassy,

If you remember, I looked at your chart on another thread. Without your guy's time of birth his ascendant and exact moon position can not be placed, but still even without those you can tell a lot about a person.

THIS PART IS TO HELP YOU LEARN ASTROLOGICAL COMPATIBILITY...

I don't know if you know a lot about relationship astrology, but I'm going to explain some of the basics of it here, before we look at your relationship with your pisces. That way, hopefully, you will have a better understanding of what is ment when I describe the relationship, and him, to you. How astrological compatibility (called synastry) works is that each planet in your chart, is compared to each planet in his chart, and the relationships between the planets (called aspects)tell how the two people are likely to get along. It is a lot more complicated then just comparing sun signs. Each planet represents different parts of your psychology...

The sun = ego and personality

The moon = emontion and security needs

Mercury = the mind and speech

Venus = love and affection

Mars = passion, energy and aggression

Jupiter = opptimism and joy

Saturn = disipline and responsibility

Uranus = innovation and freedom

Neptune = imagination, glamour, mystery and pschic attunement

Pluto = transformative experiences, sexuality, death, the dark side of life.

These planets representing these things can mix and match between two charts based on angular relationships between them. The type of relationship or aspect is determined by which degree of which sign they are in. It is very specific and not all planets are in aspect to all other planets. The inter-planetary aspects are the conjuction, trine, square, sextile and oppostion. The trine and sextile are 'easy' or harmonious aspects, and they create mild, agreeable relationships. The square and oppostion are stressful or 'hard' aspects. They can create conflict but they can also create excitment and positive change. The conjunction relates to a powerful union and can be pleasent or stressful depending on the planets involved.

In synastry it is best to have a lot of 'easy' aspects and conjunctions between planets for harmony in a union, BUT you also need a few 'hard' aspects to create growth and change in a relationship or it may become stagnent and boring. A Healthy mix of all aspects in the right proportions is good...

FOR YOU AND YOUR PICES...

When I compared your two charts the first thing I noticed is that his sun in pisces is in your 7th house(the house wich represents close partnerships and marriage in a chart), close to your moon in pisces. His sun on your moon is a conjunction aspect and is very powerful. The fact that his sun is in your 7th house means that it is natural for your to be attracted to him for his personality, there is something about him that you feel you need in your life. The fact that his sun is conjunct your moon shows that the way he expresses him self has a strong impact on your emotions, and when you are together there is a feeling of merging, and completion, with out any words being said. The sun is a masculine planet and the moon is a feminine planet so this aspect also shows an attraction between him as a man and you as a women. Communication should be good as well because your sun (ego) sextiles his mercury (mind)and your mercury (mind) sextiles his venus (affection, love). The way he talks may feel enliving to you, and confirming to your sense of identity. For him, the way you talk would make him feel affectionate towards you (he might not admitt it though). His jupiter (opptimism, joy) trines you venus (love and affection) and your jupiter(opptimism, joy) trines his sun (ego). These are nice sweet aspects to have...they mean that there are warm happy feelings flowing between you. you may laugh a lot together and feel generous towards eachother. Both of your saturns (responsibility) are conjunt, and this conjuction sextiles the sun/moon conjuction in pisces that you already share, too me, this shows a strong feeling of loyalty between you if you were to become a couple, and an ability to face the serious things in life together as well.
However, you do have his mars (passion) opposition your mars (passion). This means that you may sometimes disagree on the right method to get things done, and can get quite firey with eachother about it, on the plus side, though, this also points to a physical attraction.
There are various other aspects between you but I do not have time to go through it all, so what I have already said should give you a general idea of what your relationship should be like if you got very close. If you want to know more about synastry I recomend reading up on the subject. It is very interesting.

In terms of his personality I'll do an anaysis of that for you in a future post, as I must be at work soon...

Till then best of luck with Mr pisces.

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sweetnsassy
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posted November 10, 2006 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetnsassy     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks a lot cappadora and eyes_like_a_pisces , both of you are just sweethearts ! That website proved especially useful, helped me to get a sorta general sketch. thanbks again for all the trouble you went to take.

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sweetnsassy
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posted November 10, 2006 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetnsassy     Edit/Delete Message
Okay here is what i think as a slight development, i think about my trying to figure out his time of birth. I figured he's born on twenty fourth february 1989 after midnight ( tahts pretty much sure ). The maybe part here is trhat he might hav been born between 12:10 and 12:20 . Does that make matters any easier now ? For calculating compatibility ?

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sweetnsassy
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posted November 10, 2006 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetnsassy     Edit/Delete Message
I will be awaiting your further analysis of Mr.Piscean given the new details. Please do it asap , K?

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sweetnsassy
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posted November 10, 2006 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetnsassy     Edit/Delete Message
Okay here is what i think as a slight development, i think about my trying to figure out his time of birth. I figured he's born on twenty fourth february 1989 after midnight ( tahts pretty much sure ). The maybe part here is trhat he might hav been born between 12:10 and 12:20 .And hoping that this makes matters easier for your further analysis of my Piscean, Cappadora given the new detail. Does that make matters any easier now ? For calculating compatibility ?

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Cappadora
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posted November 12, 2006 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappadora     Edit/Delete Message

What's up sweetnsassy!

If you could give me his place of birth as well that would be helpful. To do a chart you need both the location (country and city)as well as the time. If you don't get back to me on this, I'll just assume he was born in the same place in India that you were.

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sweetnsassy
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posted November 12, 2006 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetnsassy     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cappadora,
I think I might have given you the timing feb 24th midnight between 12:10 and 12:20 and yes, he was born in the same place as I was ( Bangalore, INDIA ).That should help you out further. Looking forward to your analysis. bye. and <<<hugs>>.

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Cappadora
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posted November 26, 2006 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappadora     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there sweetnsassy!

Sorry, it's taken me a lot longer then I thought to get back to you, but I haven't forgotten! I just hope that you are still paying attention...anyway, as promised, here is the personality analysis of that Pisces you like...

I used the birth time of 12:10 am in Bangalore, india, on Feburary 24th 1989. If this birth time is accurate this guy has a late Scorpio Ascendant with jupiter in Taurus smack on his Descendant (the Ascendant rules ones own persona, and the Descenant rules ones partner in life, love and marriage). This would be positive for an attraction between you as jupiter rules your sun and mercury in Sagittarius, so he would be attracted to you for your warm, opptimistic side.
In terms of personality, a scropio Asc would make him very private about some of his personal affairs. He has a very intense, focused way of expressing himself, and may often appear stubborn and determined to get his way. Scorpio is very perceptive and clever when it comes understanding other people's secret motivations, and he will try to figure others out before he will trust anyone with his true self. He is secretive, and magnetic. It's funny that you mention you often feel as if he is scrutinizing you, he probably is, as the sign scorpio is famous for it's probing, hypnotic stare, like he wants to see your heart before he will show you his. He is serious and cautious in this way. The sign scorpio is also connected with passion and intimacy, so he may have an intriguing, seductive vibe about him.
He has sun in Pisces in the forth house, sextile to uranus, and moon in Libra in the 11th house, with his Libra moon square saturn and neptune in capricorn. Underneath that proud Scorpio mask of his beats the heart of someone who is actually very sentimental, emotional, and easygoing. He would rather be friends with everyone then keep to himself. But that kind of openess is hard for him. Emotionally, his Libra moon in the 11th house wants to be open and free, yet the square from his capricorn planets makes him shy of expressing his inner most feelings. He may even find his own feelings embarrassing. The fact that neptune (along with having sun in Pisces) is involved in this square means he is inwardly soft and romantic, but in his mind he may give himself a hard time for being too sappy. He may appear assured but underneath that there is some insecurity, and a genuine longing for approval and love .Also, sun in the pisces in the forth indicates that in order to accomplish his will, he'll often need to do things privately or alone, and that he craves support from his family. Sun in the 4th is a further indication that he will not reveal all of himself to others at first. This comes gradually.
He can, however, show a light friendly side to others when in a group. He has Mercury and Venus in the sociable sign of Aquarius and so probably gets along well with his friends and acquaintances. This is in a rather detached way, though, he will avoid getting too personal with most people. He is a senstive, vulnerable person, but his moon, mercury and venus in air signs give him a strong intellect and a tendency to rationalize his feelings. This is especially so with his Libra moon aspecting his Aquariaus mercury.
His air configuation also gives him a fun side, once you get to know him, you'll find he's an interesting communicator. He's open-minded and probably has strong opinions about justice and human rights, as well as a weird, silly sense of humour. He finds the quirks of humanity interesting. Jupiter on the 7th will enhance these tendencies as well as making him warm generous to his partner (sweetheart, girlfriend ect.)
As mentioned before, his saturn/moon square gives him some shyness. But the plus side of this is that it also gives him a serious drive and determination to acheive security and success in life in financial and professional matters. He has a good measure of self-control and an ability to work hard for his ambitions. This comes not only from the saturn/moon aspect but also from his Taurus mars in the 6th house (house of work), jupiter in Taurus on the descendant, and his capricorn planets (including saturn) in the 2nd house (house of money). His chart shows that sometimes he may have difficulty balancing his social life with the amount of time he spends working, and that it's up to him to make wise discisions.

As far as relationships are concerned, he needs someone to relate to on an mental level, it's important to be able to communicate well with his mate as a friend and not just as a love interest (Aquarius venus in the 3rd house). That being said, it may take a while for this friendship to develop as he learns to trust you. Once this trust is established, you'll be privy to his warmer, more vulnerable, sentimental side...

Just keep in mind that western astrology can not tell you for certain what will happen, it can only show what is likely or probable... everyone has free will, and it's up to the people involved to make it happen.

Also, you mentioned in your question that you wanted to know for sure what he is and the best I can do to answer that question is to say that he has a Scorpio Asc (water), Sun in Pisces (water) and moon in Libra (air). Making him primarily a water/air person with a bit of earth from his Capricorn/taurus planets. So he is a feeling and sensitive person, yet also analytical and curious, with a responsible side. He does not have any planets in Virgo as you suspected, but he does have mars in taurus in the 6th house (the virgo house, work house) giving him a dedicated work ethic. The analytical tendencies you mention more then likely come from his moon/merucry aspect and air sign planets, as these all contribute to an intellectual streak. He also has no fire in his chart, but the scorpio Asc is partly ruled by mars, and this may make him appear firey in some intances. This is assuming that I have the correct Ascendant, if not then he could have a Sagittarius Ascendant, which is a fire sign and the next sign after Scorpio. You are better off if the Ascendant is scorpio, however, as that puts jupier on the Descendant indicating an attraction to Sagittarians. If his Ascendent were to be Sagittarius itself, it would put Gemini, ruled by Aqurius mercury on the Descendant, showing a liking for Air type partners and you have no air in your chart. In that case his expectations of you would not match your personality, and what you have to offer. The situation with his Ascendant is not clear however, so do not worry about it. You should be able to tell by his actions, and by the way he looks at you, weather or not he likes you in a special way. Just go with your gut feelings...

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sweetnsassy
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posted November 28, 2006 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetnsassy     Edit/Delete Message
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, that analysis is pretty true. So generally speaking, would you say its more fun with a guy having Earth/Water moon than Air ? Can you also astrologically help me understand how Sags get attracted to mysterious, intelligent scorpio types ?

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