posted December 07, 2006 01:50 AM         

2. No remorse for mistakes or misdeeds.

3 Unreliable, undependable.

4. Do not care about the consequences of their actions.

5. Projects their faults on to others. High
blaming behavior; never their fault.

6. Little if any conscience.

7. Insensitive to needs and feelings of others.

8. Has a good front (persona) to impress and exploit others.

9. Low stress tolerance. Easy to anger and rage.

10. People are to be manipulated for their needs.

11. Rationalizes easily. Twists conversation to their gain at other’s expense. If trapped, keeps talking, changes the subject or gets angry.

12. Pathological lying.

13. Tremendous need to control situations, conversations, others.

14. No real values. Mostly situational.

15. Often perceived as caring and understanding and uses this to manipulate.

16. Angry, mercurial, moods.

17. Uses sex to control

18. Does not share ideas, feelings, emotions.

19. Conversation controller. Must have the first and last word.

20. Is very slow to forgive others. Hangs onto resentment.

21. Secret life. Hides money, friends, activities.

22. Likes annoying others. Likes to create chaos and disrupt for no reason.

23. Moody - switches from nice guy to anger without much provocation.

24. Repeatedly fails to honor financial obligations.

25. Seldom expresses appreciation.

26. Grandiose. Convinced he knows more than others and is correct in all he does.

27. Lack ability to see how they come across to others. Defensive when confronted with their behavior.

28. Can get emotional, tearful. This is about show or frustration rather than sorrow.

29. In a relationship he/she breaks the other's spirit to keep them dependent.

30. Needs threats, intimidations to keep others close to them.

31. Sabotages partner. Wants their partner to be happy only through them and to have few or no outside interests and acquaintances.

32. Highly contradictory.

33. Convincing. Must convince people to side with them.

34. Hides their real self. Always “on” .

35. Kind only if they're getting from you what they want.

36. They have to be right. Have to win. Have to look good.

37. They announce, not discuss. They tell, not ask.

38. Does not discuss openly, has a hidden agenda.

39. Controls money of others but spends freely on themselves.

40. Unilateral condition of, "I'm OK and justified so I don't need to hear your position or ideas"

41. Always feels misunderstood.

42. You feel miserable with these people. They drain you.

43. Do not listen because they don't care.

44. Their feelings are discussed, not the partners.

45. Is not interested in problem-solving.

46. Very good at reading people, so they can manipulate them.

posted December 07, 2006 02:46 AM         

You have no idea how hard it was to escape that nightmare, took me 7 years to escape and I gained 40kg and lost most of my self worth in the process (always had pretty low self esteem anyway).

Life is good now he doesn't even bug me anymore and it infuriates him that he doesn't know what I'm doing every 5 minutes. He hasn't changed or learnt any lessons, I have. Feel sorry for his very sweet new girlfriend, I've warned her in a joking way. She's seen a few nasty sides of him but is willing to take it.

posted December 07, 2006 05:06 AM         

I dont like the "feel" of this thread and the fact that its been posted on a few different forums...

Too negative....we need light! This isnt !

posted December 07, 2006 05:34 AM         

15. Often perceived as caring and understanding and uses this to manipulate.

posted December 07, 2006 06:53 AM         

I've been wondering how this list was emerged.

posted December 07, 2006 10:31 AM         

Why not post something uplifting.....focus on the goodness people bring...compassion, love, kindness etc....

posted December 08, 2006 05:46 AM         

Please do not have stereotypical impressions/judgments on certain sun signs or astrological placements for "personality disorders", which is not only unfair, but also misinformed and seriously misleading.

Plus, as psychiatrists (I'm not one though), in private they would emphasize the importance of NOT labelling anyone with any mental disturbance!

Mirandee,

posted December 08, 2006 10:01 AM         

It is not your place, DFD, or anyone else's, to judge my intentions. You cannot know the intentions of other people. You cannot know my intentions. Only God knows what our true intentions are in all cases and what motivates us.

Why are you taking this personally, DFD? I don't have to explain why I post anything here at LL anymore than you or anyone else does. Though when you asked me in GU why I posted this in three areas of LL I did graciously reply to you and gave an explanation.

You either accept my explanation or you don't.

posted December 08, 2006 11:52 AM         

Having said that, I have noticed that there are people who troll the internet who may display these signs. In fact, several forums I have been on had posters with these extreme personality traits. (Linda Land not included )

posted December 08, 2006 10:33 PM         

sue g - Um, why not *you* try seeing something positive in this? All she was doing was posting information, which is neither positive or negative. Yet it's you who's made it negative. I'm all for being informed - if it helps us made better choicecs of the kind of people we get involved with, then it is certainly a postive thing. I *hate* it when people are irrationally scared of information - and reacting liek this is just sad. So right back at you.

Defiant -

You said:

"I asked in another forum as well about the reason why you were making this a multiple post. Also, the authenticity of your list. I've studied personality disorders, and I've got this seedy feeling that your motive of posting this unverified list of "personality disorders" is very ambiguous and in any event, this has been an irresponsible act."

Again, why is posting info a bad thing? ANd if you actually have studied personality disorders, you would readily recognize the validity of the things stated there. My only critcism, as someone who has done several years of studying psychiatric pathology, both with and without astrology, is that the list could be easily condensed down to a about 7 to 10 more emcompassing factors.

Personaly, I think you're just making a fuss to make a fuss, and speculating on her intentions without anything more to go on that multi posting is rather silly. Perhaps you should back off.

posted December 09, 2006 03:46 AM         

Objectivity is a good thing... but then again so are good manners. aren't they?

posted December 09, 2006 04:04 AM         

Listen now-

By all means, I'd be delighted to recognize the validity, in fact, rather the INvalidity of this list. I had been pondering on whether to do so or not, because I do not want to end up dancing with the devil! And take that as figurative speech only!

I am perfectly capable of typing out all the diagnostic criteria about personality disorders in DSM-IV, but I will prudently consider such an action should it be taken advantage by someone else's selfish motives! If that's what you want be my guest, than you can check DSM-IV and see if I'm lying or "making a fuss".

posted December 09, 2006 12:19 PM         

Zala ...HD doesnt attack people on this forum or threaten to b!tch slap em or whatever lovely term of phrase has been used here. He doesnt infer that a knowflake has played a part in someone elses illness either. He is always objective, polite and kind.

posted December 09, 2006 01:27 PM         

Could you please link me to the reference where Mirandee inferred someone made someone else ill?? I don't read in every forum.....

posted December 09, 2006 02:00 PM         

I thought most people had read this? It was quite shocking to most!

Must say I am a little surprised that you defend someone so loyally when you are unaware of what they are putting out there?