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Juno
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posted December 15, 2007 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juno     Edit/Delete Message
it is all down to the chart and aspects, you can't just go on the sun sign, I've known Aquarians who are so detatched they're on uranus and others who are far more romantic than I'll ever be ( I m a libra sun but do have a strong uranus influence), so the actual chart is what has to be looked at.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted December 15, 2007 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Juno that planets and placement in a chart matter a lot.

I once had an Aquarian boyfriend who was so romantic and knew all the things to woo a woman and show he cared (Venus and Mercury in Pisces), for example, following up an evening together with a phone call to be sure I was okay...very gentlemanly - opening doors, fixing things and carrying anything heavy. Very strong with his personal ethics and beliefs but not offensive about them.

On the other hand,

An Aquarian woman I work with acts very befuddled all. the. time. Confused and helpless. Emotional issues come across to me as catastrophes and a big deal and feels like she is playacting or doing something because it will meet everyone's approval rather than coming from her own sense of personal integrity. Controlling and cannot let matters lie. This woman is not like any other female Aquarians I know.

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GemGemGem
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posted December 15, 2007 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you YFIS, I think I needed that reality check. You are right, it is my insecurities that I am projecting onto him. I've taken one thing he did (him not contacting me while on vacation) and turned it into him being an insincere, and ingenuine person. This is wrong of me. I was only seeing it from my point of view and so I thought it to be inconsiderate not to write or call while on vacation, since I always keep in touch with everyone while on vacation. I realize he is not me, so I shouldn't have these expectations.

I have just gotten through a divorce and my husband (Saj in sun/mercury) was cheating and had another girlfriend during our marriage, and I think that betrayal really messed me up. I am totally clingy and needy right now, as I feel hurt and alone.

It seems that it takes a very secure and independent person to be able to be in a relationship with an aquarius. Unfortunately, at this time in my life I am not secure enough and will just end up being clingy, so I think I should be fair to him and let him go. It saddens me because I felt there was great potential for us.

Thank you everyone for your wisdom and advice.

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted December 16, 2007 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
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Yes, give yourself time to heal...

(You definately deserve a fresh start)

At the end you said:
"It saddens me because I felt there was great potential for us."

Please know that just because you let him go, does not mean that the potential ends...
Who really knows what may come?

You will be on my thoughts, in my heart, and in my prayers, for whatever it's worth.


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posted December 16, 2007 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Good point, Juno.

That ought to go without saying, but most people have such superficial, stereotypical views of the signs, that it is, unfortuneately, necessary to point out the fact that, when we speak of Aquarians, we are not speaking of actual individuals, but, of abstract individuals. This is why I began my own post with the words "In general...,".


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posted December 16, 2007 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Gem,

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hippichick
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posted December 16, 2007 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Your sun sign is the true essence of you...sure all other planets in signs, houses, aspected, etc. have a definate play in your personality, but when it all boils down to who you really are...

Your sun sign....

We all send representatives, we all wear masks when a "relationship" beings, one may first see our Asc, then our Venus or Mars while corting, then when emoting or displaying our security needs our Moon shines through, and these thing always will, but when someone truely gets to know another, the sun is the heart of the matter.

Look, study and observe youselves and others...in the study of these things one shall truely know.

Do not grasp to straws or see things that you want to...

The sun is the sign of the soul....

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GemGemGem
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posted December 17, 2007 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know...I'm very taurus in relationships actually when my sun sign is in gemini. I have sun/moon/mercury all in gemini, but I don't feel like I behave like one.

I am very practical and methodical about things. I like stability and security above all things, and am not as flighty as gemini's are described to be.

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RainbowDay
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posted December 17, 2007 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowDay     Edit/Delete Message
I don't like how so many critisizes the aquarian "disappearings" and "gameplayings". They're always portrayed as something rude and cruel and totally without reason... Well let me tell you then, there's a reason behind EVERY aquarian behaviour. Even if we don't want to tell you.

I "disappear" myself sometimes. I like going for as long as I can without any human contact. Except maybe my mom who will freak if she's away and I don't send her a text or answer the phone in a couple of days (I'm 17). It's not that I want to worry anyone, and I don't think I am either. All my friends are used to me being "unable to find my phone" and therefore not answering their calls/text/mails in a couple of days or weeks. It's not that I don't think of them, don't care about them or want to hurt them, EVERYTHING IS NOT ABOUT THEM. ANd I do actually believe it is in everybody's best interest that I take these "breaks" once in a while when I become extremely unsocial. WHy? Well I NEED to take a breather once in a while. I need to philosophize, dream, BREATHE, think, do absolutely nothing, and just relax and clear my head, and most of all: clean my head and heart of unwanted emotions. If I can't do this, if I can't have the me-time, I'll go mad. I'm always happy around my friends, and it is sort of exhausting. Even I need some time to be sad, only trouble is I need to be alone to do that. If people occupy me every single day, I'm sure I'll eventually turn nuts. Or I'll snap at someone, and I don't think anyone wants to see that happen.

I know very well I'm messed up, but it's my mess and I have a right to have it. For someone else, it'll be something else. For me, it's this. It's not half as much anybody else's problem as it's mine.

All other disappearing aquarians may not have the exact same reasons as me, that I know little of. But people do not do things for no reason at all. There's always a reason there, even if it's not apparent to you.

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hippichick
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posted December 17, 2007 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
O, Rainbow, you a wise young individual!

My almost 16 yr old Aqua daughter is the same way, people just drive her insane sometimes and she will go and hole up and not respond to anybody..except her mom and sister.

And with my Aquarian-colored Pisces soul I know exactly where you all are coming from..

Keep up the introspection and connection to your self...

And you will discover many things.

Terri

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hippichick
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posted December 17, 2007 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
O, and Gem...

Do not believe everything you hear/read about astrology. Research and experience for yourself!

Really, that is the only way to study astrology, hence the astrological/psychological workings of the human psyche.

I have yet to know a Gem who is "flighty." My brother is a Gem and is beyond intelligent and a multi-millionaire. A dear friend of mine is a Gem and has his own business, potting...A lady friend of mine is a Gem and is also very intelligent and very caring(a nurse.) ALL of the Gems I know are so very grounded, in their own way, tho, they do exhibit Gem qualities of intelligence, rationalism, detachment, aloofness, etc...

Flighty...quite not....the Gem symbolism connected to birds, to me, is freedom, of the mind...flight of the soul...not spaciness or disconnectedness!

And that is what the Gems I know are quite naturally!!!

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taurus/gemini cusp
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posted December 18, 2007 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus/gemini cusp     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that real love is freedom! God that word is my favourite in the english language - "freedom" - it does something to me - it makes my spirit soar!

I'm not a Aquarius. But I do feel a lot like one, as I have an Aquriaus moon, my Sun, chiron and North node in the 11th house and a singleton, virtually unaspected Uranus in Sagittarius. (Phew!) I'm a commitment phobe through and through I'm afraid. Luckily, there's another strong sign within me to keep me sane - Taurus! Thank God!!! Even so, the Aquarius in me is the first little bugger to shout out "do a runner!!!" when things get a little claustraphobic. It is NEVER personal. It will NEVER be the other persons fault. Yes, I may be a bit uncomfortable at that person's emotions but what I am probably more uncomfortable with is my own emotions coming too close to the fore. We can't have that, can we?! Hence the down time, where no one can find me. It drives the people in my life mad!!!

If I can help it, I NEVER express any emotions other than happiness and, well sarcasm I guess! I remember an EXTREMELY rare occasion a couple of years ago when I very suddenly burst into tears on a night out (long story!) and my friends were so shocked at me that a few of them burst into tears as well!!! I was horrified at myself once I'd calmed down - and really embarrased! And as for them - they must have thought I had no feelings or something!!! But Aqua's do give off this impression sometimes with their dissapearing acts. But remember, they're only recharging their batteries when they've gone AWOL - it doesn't mean they don't care about you anymore - they're just sorting themselves out. Aqua's have good days and bad days like everybody else. They think they have to put on their robot act when they really, really shouldn't. But bless them - they mean well.

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writesomething
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posted December 18, 2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
I dont care what anybody says, Aquarius men are to be watched when they enter your lives. Speak softly and carry a big stick with them. Not saying theyre all the same, just saying watch it, be careful, and hold your breath.

Take everything they say with a grain of salt from the start, he doesnt want what he can have and that will always be his main issue.

If you can find the balance, and not always be there, and always have him guessing, and NOT be emotionally attached...it might work..because the only way he'll become attached is, when you arent(you cannot be fake about it, he'll know)....

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posted December 19, 2007 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
I've told the aqua guy that I want to be friends only, and he was ok with that. Although he makes a flirty remark from time to time which I secretly like.

Surprisingly, I received a text message from him on Monday telling me he missed me. He then called me that same night for a chat. He just got back from his vacation and he said he wanted to talk to me before leaving again on another trip this week.

We might actually start a potential business venture together. Can anyone tell me if our charts show we can possibly work well together and succeed?

I am:
Asc Leo
Sun Gemini
Moon Gemini
Mercury Gemini
Venus Taurus
Mars Taurus
Jupiter Leo
Saturn Virgo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra

He is:
Asc Unknown
Sun Aquarius
Moon Aries
Mercury Capricorn
Venus Capricorn
Mars Gemini
Jupiter Aries
Saturn Cancer
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra


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RainbowDay
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posted December 19, 2007 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowDay     Edit/Delete Message
Be suspicious and take everything with a grain of salt you say?` nah, where's the fun in that. It only makes you narrow-minded and prejudiced. I've always thought of astrology as a tool for better understanding human behaviour! Not to condemn anyone, or to raise more prejudices!

Love as if you've never been hurt There's no need to be cautious right from the start, I think... It only creates confusion, a (perhaps) wrong first-impression (which is always difficult to correct) and it may slow down the whole damn thing Sure one may react to actions or words, if you would react to them coming from anyone else's mouth. I'm not saying one should be naive, just not much more cautious around them than anybody else...=) After all... We aqua's are always looking for someone who'll accept us wholly, aren't we? Criticism right from the start isn't such a big hit =)

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hippichick
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posted December 19, 2007 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Rainbow...

keep it coming on...

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RainbowDay
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posted December 19, 2007 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RainbowDay     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks hippichick! Your daughter seems nice!, I think you've told me about her before, can't remember exactly! Where's her asc and moon?

Oh and Lialei, I really loved that poem too! You have talent for writing.

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hippichick
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posted December 19, 2007 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Rainbow..

My goodness...thankyou for asking...

Her asc is Cancer, with Cap on the dsc...

Her chart really freaks me out and has, since I have been studying this since her birth...

She has..

Aqua Sun, Moon, Saturn and Merc, all in fairly close conj in the 8th, Cap Mars, Neptune and Uranus, all in very close conj in the 7th.

Venus in Cap in the 6th.

Her Jupiter in Virgo trines her Cap stuff (thank goodness) in the 3rd and her Pluto sits all by himself, in Scorp, in her 5th and aspects nothing....thank goodness...again!!!

She was born with a severe heart defect, had 3 surgeries by the time she was three and still does not have a "normal" heart, tho it functions as normal...she may have to have more surgeries in the far future...

She is an amazing soul and an amazing Aqua and she is most certainly, with my eldest Aries daughter, my best friend, ever, and always has been!!

Terri

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posted December 28, 2007 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
I have been reading with interest the response to Aquarians in love (or the nearest we can ever get to it)Can I just say that the reason why it's pretty hopeless trying to pursue a deep and intense relationship with us Aquas is the fact that we are not motivated by sex. The idea of it? Yes. The fantasy of it? Amazing. The actual act? Er...cant be bothered. Now I can hear you all squawking in unison What??? I am animal between the sheets. People have said I am the best they have ever had...yeah whatever...the truth is...and you know it is...we are not that bothered. So the reason your Aquarian male heads for the hills every now and then is just so he actually doesn't have to do it. Its not fear of the emotional connection it's just that he doesn't ever feel the emotional connection.And once he has done it once? What would be the point of doing it again? And before you cry "thats not me" think about it. All of us are driven on every level by sex when we are young. Every decision we make if you search deep enough has some connection to it. What you wear, who you speak to or dont bother with, career decisions if you search deep enough are all driven by the search for a partner on some fundamental level. And I am digressing now. To get back to my original subject it is that....us Aquas? we have less of it than any other sign I have come across and trust me I have done my research.I have had 3 husbands. I am not bragging just stating a fact and I am sure that the reasons these relationships failed is that I just never felt that "thing" I was supposed to feel.Please, this is not me being bitter just completely honest. I left all the relationships without a backward glance and although it saddens me to say, I cant even remember what it was like to be married to any one of them, just the sweet relief when they were all over. We have to play the game of life on some level but for us thats exactly what it is...a game. The deep intensity you guys feel? We simply dont. Mine has switched off even more now and the relief is intense. How sweet ones life is when it is not driven by the eternal quest for a partner who will fulfil your every need. And please dont think I am being cynical. This is the first time I have written although I have read for about 2 yrs and I think all you guys are amazing and sweet but the heartfelt anguish of the girl who wonders whats wrong with her Aquarian lover. I just had to write. And I would be interested to hear from you Aquarians honestly. Honestly now. Just not how you think you should be percieved as some lusty youth or some hot young female but in reality. Are you really that bothered? Love and blessings to you all x P.S Now my kids? Thats a whole different thing. I am crazy with love for them but life partners? Dont know what happened there!

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posted December 28, 2007 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Bunnies

Welcome and thank you for your input.

I am a highly Aquarian Pisces sun and I could live without sex, yes even being a Pisces sun....it just does not thrill me, but with my Mars in Aqua in conj with Jup and Merc, oppo Uranus, sex is very mental for me and very disappointing to me "in the flesh" so to speak.

Now, my Aqua male friend is as Piscean as I Aqua, with his Asc, Mars, Jup and Venus in conj in Pisces he pursues me sexually whenever we have contact.

I have often wondered, if he thinks I expect it from him, when really I find it quite annoying at times....your post has made me think this even further.

Having said that, I have a male Aqua friend who has his Venus in Aqua, I forget where his Mars is at present, (probably in Aqua too as he is just a few weeks older than I) but he is a physician and is positively obsessed with sex! He is in a committed relationship with a woman he is not married to, they share 2 kids and he has pursued and captured most of the nurses in downtown San Antonio!!

Back to my friend, he has told me that it is our mental/spiritual connection that he likes first and foremost about "us." He has also told me that the only way I could ever stroke his ego is for him to satisfy me (sexually.)

Hmmmmm.......

I sitll love you all Aquas, but the men are a bit more perplexing than the women, from the huge amount of Aquas in my life, and what they have shown me, or maybe it is just my Aquarian nature than enables me to understand the Aqua female first and the male second.

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posted December 28, 2007 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
2 of my gal friends are Aquarians and they are "very" sexual actually. Much more than I am...I'm a Gemini. I am the one in the group who tends to intellectualize love, and prefer to keep things on a mental plane. I think the physical part of a relationship can be good, but I will choose a mentally stimulating partner over a physically appealling one anyday. I love very deeply however, and I have felt that "thing" you are talking about. That feeling you are "supposed" to feel when you are in love. Let me tell you, it is an amazing feeling, and can only really be experienced when you love deeply, and with your whole entire being.

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posted December 28, 2007 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the welcome! Gem sounds like me. I have always preferred a mentally stimulating partner and people were always surprised by my choice of men.Not to brag (again!) but I was a bit of a beauty in my day and yet it has to be said the husbands...well to be kind, they were unusual looking and they always said that people would be surprised that they ended up with me. But I can say hand on heart, that I have only twice been knocked sideways by someones looks. My friends would always be going "Oh wow look at him or he's gorgeous and I could never see it. But I have been knocked sideways by a personality so it is all intellectual. Now hippichick...your friends. Well the physician. Your exact words "pursue and capture" just goes to show what a game Aquas think it is. I think Linda wrote about Aquarians finding someone extremely fascinating until they had dissected them completely, found out what makes them tick and then moved on to the next "project" Are you sure he's sex mad and not just doing it for the intellectual stimulus. I would bet on the latter. The sex is secondary. But you see what I mean about no emotional connection? I used to do that all the time. Make people want me and then when it came to following through would go "Oh I dont think so". And yes I did get called one of them...a lot! Gem Gem Gem...you are lucky to have felt the "thing". I have thought I have felt the "thing" only to find that when it was all over I wasn't a bit bothered about it ending and thats when I began to question..have I ever felt it?
I love your Aqua friend hippichick, who wants to satisfy you sexually. You must be driving him to a frenzy with your aloofness. Ah the male ego! You have to love them. He will of course being an Aquarian, if he manages to take you to the peaks of ecstasy, drop you like a hot brick once he's done it and wander off in search of the next interesting challenge.
But we'll always stay friends!!!!
Well from the frozen wasteland that is the Aquarian romance sector I shall say bye for now...except to say that I have Moon/Mars and Venus in Aries. Do you think that I shall ever thaw out? Oh and also I ordered Gooberz for a friend of mine for Xmas. If I read that perhaps that will help.

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posted January 08, 2008 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leah     Edit/Delete Message
I am an aquarian and sometimes I can't believe how people feel about us here.

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posted January 09, 2008 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message

I just want to say that:

Lialei,

That was simply beautiful..one who really knows and feel Aqua Love ...can understand that words.

FriendInSpirit,

Whenever i read your posts i get the feeling that you seem psysic ...your words are always the ones we must ear and we need to ear.

Thanks for that

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posted January 18, 2008 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HunkOfRope     Edit/Delete Message
They like their space, but they're loyal. If they have a lot of Capricorn in their charts, you can bet on it.

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