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plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 06, 2008 06:44 PM Hello! Here are some aspects between me and a "special somebody" (take into consideration that we were born with only a week difference) Vertex oppose vertex my sun conjunct his Venus & N. Node My sun square his Vertex My chiron square his Lilith My chiron trine his North Node & Venus My asc trine his N.Node My N.Node conjunct his N.Node I read that aspects to Vertex & the Nodes of the moon in synastry signify something carmic about 2 people. I do have this stupid feeling that there is something special about the way we relate, and I have many times "intuitionally known" where he is or what's going on in his life. We've many times done things at the same time & found out later and when we're together we quite often speak each others's mind. Can it be that we have what is called a "past life experience" or something carmic, or these aspects are just a result of our close birthdays? Any comments and help with these aspects are welcome IP: Logged
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 661 From: england Registered: Aug 2007	posted April 08, 2008 11:25 AM could you post the chart to let us see. it's difficult to have an opinion with a few aspects only if you don't know how to do, then just give the details. i'm not sure myself how to post a chart, but i can deal with the details. IP: Logged
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 661 From: england Registered: Aug 2007	posted April 08, 2008 11:40 AM to start, here is something for the vertex opposing each other. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011471.html IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 08, 2008 12:41 PM Ok in the first column my planets, in the second are his : Sun Conjunct Sun 6.67 Sun Conjunct Venus 0.99 Sun Sextile Saturn 3.84 Sun Sextile Uranus 3.41 Sun Sextile Neptune 3.73 Sun Trine Pluto 6.88 Sun Trine Chiron 6.93 Sun Quincunx Lilith 5.46 Sun Conjunct N. Node 3.33 Sun Square Vertex 0.13 Moon Trine Sun 0.88 Moon Square Moon 2.36 Moon Square Mercury 6.36 Moon Sextile Saturn 3.70 Moon Sextile Neptune 3.81 Moon Conjunct Pluto 0.67 Moon Trine Asc 7.22 Mercury Conjunct Moon 0.36 Mercury Square Pluto 2.05 Mercury Sextile Vertex 4.95 Mercury Sextile MC 5.50 Venus Square Mars 2.50 Venus Square Jupiter 0.28 Venus Sextile Uranus 5.88 Venus Trine Chiron 2.36 Venus Quincunx Lilith 3.83 Venus Conjunct N. Node 5.96 Venus Quincunx Asc 5.95 Mars Sextile Sun 7.54 Mars Square Mercury 0.30 Mars Conjunct Mars 4.01 Mars Sextile Asc 0.56 Jupiter Conjunct Mars 1.95 Jupiter Conjunct Jupiter 0.83 Jupiter Trine Lilith 4.38 Jupiter Sextile Asc 5.40 Saturn Sextile Sun 3.34 Saturn Sextile Venus 4.32 Saturn Conjunct Saturn 0.52 Saturn Conjunct Neptune 0.41 Saturn Sextile Pluto 3.55 Saturn Square MC 4.01 Uranus Sextile Venus 2.63 Uranus Quincunx Jupiter 5.39 Uranus Conjunct Uranus 0.21 Uranus Oppose Chiron 3.30 Uranus Square Lilith 1.83 Uranus Sextile N. Node 0.30 Uranus Square MC 2.94 Neptune Sextile Sun 3.09 Neptune Sextile Venus 4.57 Neptune Conjunct Saturn 0.26 Neptune Conjunct Neptune 0.15 Neptune Sextile Pluto 3.30 Neptune Square MC 4.26 Pluto Trine Sun 0.26 Pluto Square Moon 1.75 Pluto Sextile Saturn 3.09 Pluto Sextile Neptune 3.20 Pluto Conjunct Pluto 0.05 Chiron Trine Venus 5.89 Chiron Oppose Uranus 3.47 Chiron Conjunct Chiron 0.04 Chiron Square Lilith 1.43 Chiron Trine N. Node 3.56 Lilith Quincunx Venus 5.20 Lilith Trine Mars 5.59 Lilith Trine Jupiter 2.82 Lilith Square Uranus 2.78 Lilith Square Chiron 0.73 Lilith Conjunct Lilith 0.74 Lilith Quincunx N. Node 2.87 Lilith Oppose MC 5.51 N. Node Conjunct Venus 2.37 N. Node Square Jupiter 5.65 N. Node Sextile Uranus 0.05 N. Node Trine Chiron 3.56 N. Node Quincunx Lilith 2.09 N. Node Conjunct N. Node 0.04 N. Node Square Vertex 3.24 Vertex Square Sun 3.53 Vertex Trine Moon 2.04 Vertex Square Venus 4.13 Vertex Quincunx Saturn 0.70 Vertex Quincunx Neptune 0.59 Vertex Quincunx Pluto 3.74 Vertex Oppose Vertex 3.27 Vertex Sextile MC 3.82 Asc Quincunx Mars 4.65 Asc Quincunx Jupiter 1.88 Asc Sextile Uranus 3.72 Asc Trine Chiron 0.21 Asc Trine N. Node 3.81 MC Oppose Moon 7.40 MC Quincunx Venus 1.23 MC Quincunx Uranus 1.19 MC Quincunx Neptune 5.95 MC Sextile Lilith 3.24 MC Quincunx N. Node 1.11 MC Trine Vertex 2.09 MC Trine MC 1.54 I know, there are lots of them, feel free to choose the most important IP: Logged
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 661 From: england Registered: Aug 2007	posted April 08, 2008 12:42 PM i really appreciate the effort but a list is still different from a chart. call me fussy or blind, but all i see is a list of letter do you want an explanation of each aspect or a general idea of the connection? for the former, look at sites like www.cafeastrology.com and astrologyweekly.com for the latter, i need a chart. sorry mars retrograde in virgo here IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 08, 2008 02:44 PM What you mean by the "details"? The placements of planets in houses? I was totally unable to post a chart (I'm still a new-one here ...) And yes, I am more interested in the "main idea" of this connection .... IP: Logged
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 7110 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004	posted April 08, 2008 06:21 PM plutoprincess ~ Here's a thread just for Newbies, with lots of good info like how to post a chart http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015151.html prae ~ Another "detail"oriented Mars in Virgo here IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 08, 2008 08:16 PM Yay! I did it!!!! Thanks for the instructions Azalaksh! You are very helpful ! Is this chart ok, or should I upload the composite? :S IP: Logged
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 661 From: england Registered: Aug 2007	posted April 09, 2008 04:58 AM by details i mean date, time, place of birth. for you and him. welcome hope i'll be able to help IP: Logged
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007	posted April 09, 2008 08:03 AM Are you in a romantic relationship with this person? Cause you have wonderful aspects with each other: Sun con Sun Sun conj Venus Scun conj NN Moon trine Sun Moon trine ASC Venus trine Kiron Venus conj NN NN CONJ NN ASC trine Kiron ASC trine NN These are just beautiful to have - you two can very well be Soul Mates according to IQ�s List IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 09, 2008 10:25 AM No, we are not in a relationship...I just can't get him out of my mind and, the truth is I have a very strong feeling that we have some sort of psychic bond ... Plus, every time I try to move on, something happens and he reappears in my life. IP: Logged
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 661 From: england Registered: Aug 2007	posted April 09, 2008 04:01 PM well, looking at the chart, it's obvious you've got many things in common. expect the moon, there's not many differences from one chart to the other. in the composite chart, the composite sun (11'34 pisces) opposes the ascendant(12'02 virgo). it's not yet in the seventh house but is exactly conjunct the descendant(12'02 pisces). his moon conjunct your IC, your, (and his) psyche is on his descendant. you two have your MC in a fire sign. you leo, him aries. so a similirity in the aspirations, or inspirations... so it's not just the planets. the axis are connected as well, actually the ASC and MC axis are almost conjunct. he was born at 14:00 pm exactly? so there's a lot going on. i imagine you think you're connected. but each has his own karma3811 opposing eros433. and this axis square the nodes, and is conjunct your sun and his venus. also, you both have moon-pluto aspects separetely. judy hall wrote a good book: hades moon. you've got a conjunction, he's got a square. i've got it to. that's issues around plutonic emotions, abandonment, mother... let's say that emothions can be pretty intense. that it help? what do you think? IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 09, 2008 06:47 PM Well, I'm not sure if this is the exact time. When I asked him he said 2pm, however, I use that with some doubt because he doesn't pay attention to such details...It could be as well 14.10 but not much later.Would it affect the axis that much? You say there's a lot going on...You think he might "care" a little? "but each has his own karma3811 opposing eros433. and this axis square the nodes, and is conjunct your sun and his venus." What does this mean?Is it that bad? I found info on the moon - pluto aspects that are pretty accurate, but I'll see if I can find the book you suggested as well... Sorry if I'm exaggerating with my quastions... I really appreciate your time & help! IP: Logged
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 661 From: england Registered: Aug 2007	posted April 10, 2008 04:41 AM well what i understand is that you want to know if the connection with him is real, and goes both ways; if you believe in reincarnation, it seems very likely to me that you,ve been there already together because it`s not just the planets which are the same; if his time of birth was indeed just a bit later, his MC-IC axis would be conjunct your ASC-DESC axis; and your MC-IC would be conjunct his ASC-DESC. this is big in synastry; to me, they are like the skeleton of the person, and you two have similar "strucutre", axis. and that depends on the time and reinforce the already overwelming similarities due to the planets being in the same position for each of you; being born a week apart, all your planets expect the moon are the same; which means that somehow, you are dealing with the same issues;you have similar reactions, expressions, needs... so that can be good or bad for the eros-karma opposition i wouldn`t interpret as good or bad because i don`t know but at least you can say they are connected which reinforce the idea of past lives together; squaring the north-south node axis of th moon; maybe(?) your connection wont help for your evolution. also, i have pluto- moon aspect (conjunction) and my sister has the opposition and my dad had the sextile; it`s interesting to note that group of people with similar issues end up together. may be they understand better each other; this aspect is powerful. all your emotion have a pluto influence; when anger is triggered, man,er...princess, it can be violent inside. not everyone has this aspect; so the fact you two have it and have chart so similar i think you are karmically connected; i just can say where to go from here. that`s your choice, but to me, there can be some disadvantages to be with someone too similar. but you defenitely have a bond. and he must feel it. but you know, im a guy too, and we can be immature. you are young but he could be even younger in his head, taking you for granted, feeling for you, but being immature and giving you the impression he doesn`t care. his moon in aqua also could make him be that way, i think. IP: Logged
venusdeindia Knowflake Posts: 1558 From: mumbai,india Registered: Nov 2006	posted April 10, 2008 05:01 AM i hope this helps http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014808.html some work that i have done on Heavy karma in synastry.... JOHHNY CASH - JUNE CARTER ---- DRACO DRAMA - Lindaland http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014290.html Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith - Twin Souls? - Lindaland http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014046.html others by the genius IQhunk Asteroids Valentine and Amor = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009111.html Isis and Osiris = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014145.html Asteroid Karma = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009192.html Asteroid Groups = http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014127.html IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 10, 2008 06:00 AM Thank you so much,praecipua, You are very informative and a very good at giving advices! I couldn't stand the idea that it was all in my mind!Maybe this will help me understand that this circle of my life is closed and it's time to move on to something else.... I'm grateful!!!! Venusdeindia, thanks for the links!I'll check them out as soon as possible IP: Logged
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 661 From: england Registered: Aug 2007	posted April 10, 2008 02:34 PM i'm not an astrologer, and i'm fairly new to this site, some are more qualified here to give you advices. but thank you for your comments. i wish you the best in your relation with your prince, but remember that there are plenty of princes waiting for you, and with very compatible aspects too. it's a chance that you've got this connection with him though. and despite the similarities (huge) there's still some differences. his moon is in aquarius and yours in scorpio. you know about the rulers of the houses, they are parts of the make up of someone too. basically in your individual chart, the same way you look for the position in the houses or signs of the ruler of the ascendant, you look for the ruler of the second house, third, etc... in the houses or signs, and you'll find some differences. for exemple the ruler of your seventh house (relationships) is venus, and venus is in aquarius in your fourth. we find him with a 22'59 cancer asc, but if the time is wrong, the degree change every 4 min. if he's born after 14:30 i think he could be leo rising. in the first case saturn rules the seventh house, in the second, uranus does. in any case, saturn and uranus are both in capricorn in the third house. you can find stuff on internet. la vie est belle IP: Logged
winky_winky Knowflake Posts: 566 From: SPAIN Registered: Oct 2007	posted April 12, 2008 05:13 PM I agree that u have wonderful aspects real strong with this person, moon and sun are very much aspected strongly like sun-sun etc... and strong conjunctions Also good saturn sextiles for stability maybe moon sq mercury gives u a bit of a problem when communicating? Dunno, but also the mars square venus should add excitement and uranus with venus also adds tons of excitement... Have to look closer but need to know whether this rings any bells? IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted April 13, 2008 04:46 AM Indeed we have a serious problem with verbal communication ... but no matter what, there is stability between us ... I mean ,there had been times when we hadn't spoken to each other for months and I thought he had forgot all about me, and the night of my birthday the phone rang and there he was,as friendly as always .... as if not a single day had passed since the last time we saw!!! There is this feeling that no matter what, we can't turn against each other. We have never quarrelled and if we ever disagreed, we forgot it the very next moment ... IP: Logged
plutoprincess Knowflake Posts: 160 From: Registered: Mar 2008	posted May 30, 2008 03:17 AM Sorry to bring back this old topic, but my curiosity is killing me. Recently I found out he's in a relationship with another girl, but he says he's bored, that it was a mistake and is afraid of telling her to break up (I guess that's his stupid cancer asc)... Her birthday is on 19 nov. 1988 athens greece (unknown time of birth).His aspects with her are not as strong as ours, and deny any stability but the houses she affects him are way better for romance (for example her amor & pallas are in his 7th house, OMG that makes me wanna quit!!) Can somebody offer a reading please?It is now more complicated than ever because when I last saw him I felt like he was hiding something from me. He cared for me and was sooooo kind, even protective. He looked miserable, yet he wouldn't admit it when I asked him. Winky you said you could look closer...would you mind telling me a couple of things please? Any help would be much appreciated, thank you IP: Logged

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