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Virgo81
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posted April 16, 2008 12:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off I just wanted to thank those who are responsible for this website...what a great place to enjoy sharing stories and advice...it's great!

Ok..now...I won't bore you with all the messy details right away...not unless it may be needed for further clarification.

I met this cancer guy a month ago now...and after MUCH hmming and hawing I am quite sure he is not as interested as I had suspected and I have decided to just forget about it.
However, I thought I would post on here just to see what the feedback is...plus a little bit more hope for love never hurt!

So I met him..sparks flew....volcanoes erupted...rainbows ended on my front porch..it was terrific! Most chemistry I have felt with a guy in a long time. He was as consumed with butterflies as I was. Then his mood changed ever so slightly, I instantly put up my guard and said it may not be a good idea to see eachother again...I was lying...then I told him what I really meant which was that I liked him but it was a bit much so quickly. He was very hurt at first but seemed to get over it and we moved on. The remaining portion of the relationship was via text message because he was away working.
he would go days at a time without wrtiting..which drove me crazy but when he did write it was sweet enough to keep me wanting more...then he asked to meet on the weekend when he was back in town...we talked a few times after that..but I never seen him. About a week after that...after had gotten over the anger and rejection I seen an add for a job in his field and thought I would send it to him...with no intention of hearing back from him..it just seemed like a good offer and I am not the hold grudge type of person...he got back to me asking me who I was because he had lost his phone with his contacts...when he found out it was me he said he was hoping he would hear from me. The next day he sent me another message that said he was very happy I sent the text and that he was thinking he would never hear from me again...that was a week ago and I haven't heard anything since. I have decided he just told me what I wanted to hear to avoid any argument...I know he is not interested just wondering where I may have lost him. I know cancers hurt easily and wonder if when I told him I dont think we should see eachother he never got over it like he acted he did. I really liked him though...not looking forward to waiting for the chemistry again...me and my virgo fussiness!!
oh ya.. I am a virgo sun, sag. ascendent and moon in aquarius. I dont know what time he was born but his brithday is July 16th, 1978.
looking forward to feedback!!

Cheers!!

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silverbells
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posted April 16, 2008 01:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Lord, the Cancer men. Get out while you are still not deeply emotionally invested; unless this man is potentially your soulmate. You are in for a crazy crazy ride of miscommunication, serious self-doubt, hurt feelings and confusion (not to mention being the victim of his usually "good-intentioned" lies/deceptions borne of his fear). Look in the threads in the astrology forum it will take you awhile but there is a wealth of information and personal testimonial there from the broken-hearted Cancer-man-dating masses. Yes, they are very sweet, sensitive and usually earnest but...Good God! And watch out for the magnitism(sp?), I can see that you are being taken in already!
signed,

The hypocrite who has been in a seven year on and off relationship with a Cancer who I would alternately like to punch in the face and kiss on the mouth. *sigh* I do love my sort-of-my man.
Hope this helps (and that he doesn't see this).

P.S.When you respond or within two days I will erase this post
(Libra Sun, Scorp Moon, Sag. Asc. and prolly some affliction that makes me paranoid)

Of course, I could be wrong about all of this.(Libra)
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writesomething
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posted April 16, 2008 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
silver-LOL.

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cancerrg
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posted April 16, 2008 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what was the need to say , you didn't want to SEE him again ?
if i was at his place , i know i would have taken it in literal sense .
and after that , i would have waited for you to initiate first (which you did ) .

see , its not a cancer thing to misbehave with people unless and untill they are really ****** off . ( just asking him to move on , doesn't **** us , we take it as being honest )
so watch your words with cancers !
he wants you but he will need you to say it .

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Virgo81
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posted April 16, 2008 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Thank you so much!

Silver- Yes the magnetism is why he is still in my head eventhough I haven't seen him in a month...he is a hard boy to forget. Also about the soulmate thing...it may be nothing but I went to have my cards read about two weeks before I met him..she had said I would be torn between two places with work, that I would make the move which was important because there was a guy I was going to meet. Everything she explained about my relationship with this guy was the cancer scenario to a T...down to the text messaging relationship. I think that is another reason I hung on after the confusion and mixed signals.

Also regarding the roller coaster...I think that is something I wouldn't have minded as long as I knew deep down he did care...well I guess too an extent.

Ok I thank you for your email and wish you much luck in your relationship!

Cancerrg:

I am really happy you had replied as I seen much of your replies on other threads and you seem to understand yourself quite well with lots of helpful feedback!

I am not sure I completely understand the last sentence of the post though. Are you able to elabrate?

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celticfyre
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posted April 16, 2008 03:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Casualty, and hopelessly entrenched with one myself who now has me in isolation distance mode yet again. But no one else has come along to challenge his place in my heart so i am not ready yo give up on him but I am wondering if he has given up on me. So I completely empathize with you!

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Virgo81
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posted April 16, 2008 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CelticFyre,

I wish you all the bset. I understand about the not being challenged by another yet...

Have you tried to contact him since he has started the cold shoulder thing again??? If so let me know what happens!

I think I am going to leave mine to fate...but wish you all the best in yours!!!

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silverbells
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posted April 16, 2008 07:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo81- I understand what you mean about not minding the roller coaster as long as you knew that he cared...I am the same way but it might be a while until you know if he cares or not. Meanwhile do not sit around rotting away and "waiting for him" Let him know that you have strong feelings and let him come around, there is NOTHING else that you can do. And if it turns out that he does not want you - well, you have been getting on with your life all along anyway. Something came to mind: regardless of your feelings for him(especially if you really like him), make sure that you remain very grounded, be vigilant about remaining grounded and aware of yourself and your feelings because it seems that Cancers (though they are perceptive) get caught up in their own feelings and their own perceptions and get carried away into a place of non-reality in reference to their fears and whatnot; they get so caught up and they WILL take you along for the ride into a place of their fear-laden realities (which is not necessarily the real reality). Anytime you date a water sign he must be very mature. Maturity is key in effectively dealing with strong emotions and they do have strong emotions.
Remain grounded- do not fight his reality but live in your own. When he trusts you, you can trust his emotional reality better. Also, when you remain grounded you exude a confidence in yourself and a depth that Cancer men find very attractive (there is your motivation to remain grounded...if you start to flag). Cancer men need to know that you are sure of yourself because that is part of their trust issues. Because if you seem to not trust yourself then "how can he trust you"? See what I am saying?
ALWAY REMAIN TRUE TO YOURSELF NO MATTER WHAT. You will need it for your peace of mind.
And thank You for the Well-Wishes

writesometing-When I read my own post I was laughing

Oh God if he sees this it might be a situation. Let my fears about that be lesson #1 for you Virgo.

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Virgo81
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posted April 16, 2008 08:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SilverBells,

Hi and thank you for the insight. I think I have remained pretty grounded through all of this regardless of the hot and cold. I think maybe I will make one last attempt at it...let him know I do like him but its ok that things haven't worked out. Thats all I can do.

Ok...thanks again! And good luck!

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Natural111
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posted April 16, 2008 09:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL!!!
Siverbells...

Oh yeah, and yes, YOU ARE 100 PERCENT RIGHT...Down to him patrolling the boards trying to figure out what you really think about him...

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cancerrg
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posted April 17, 2008 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok edited ! sorry for the typo confusion.

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Virgo81
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posted April 17, 2008 09:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancerrg..lol thanx for the edit...I thought thats what you were trying to say but wanted to make sure!!
So you're saying that I have to tell him that he likes me!??? If he likes me will he not get back to me eventually??? I understand cancers are sensitive people but how much do I have to cater to his insecurities and how can I be sure that they are simple insecurities and that he is just "not that into me"?

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celticfyre
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posted April 17, 2008 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silverbells--
I like what you said about being grounded and I think a period of me not being very grounded (and I am generally that way all the time) may have contibuted to MY lastest abandonement from my crab---I was going thru alot of other stuff that was unfamiliar territory to me and really shaking me to the foundations of my self esteem and ripped open my vulnaribilites (sp?)to the point I was the proverbial Scorpio brooding and exploding all over the place at even the smalest things and I think I may have driven him away unintentionally with all that display.

and most men want women who are grounded however its always been my problem I am generally a self assured independent strong woman but there are times I need the support and help too and I think it has been my history that as soon as I need them to be really there for me when I am having difficulty coping with something they can't deal because it messes with their security and it usual signals something in them to depart.

I hope this isn't really the case withthe crab but I think I sent him into hiding at least.
So yes very frustrating dealing with these very sweet sensitive people!!

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Virgo81
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posted April 18, 2008 04:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I just told him that I likes him and hoped he felt the same...but regardless I am happy to have met him and wish him the best...

That was the truth, I hope it wasn't too "direct" for his sensitive nature, but I guess thats all I can do...whatever happens..happens.

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Meduza
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posted April 18, 2008 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what was his reaction?

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Virgo81
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posted April 18, 2008 07:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No reaction...well unless we are considering silence a reaction..which technically it is...so silence!Lol. I am not expecting a reaction from him. I believe I sent it mostly as closure for myself. It is not a nice feeling to be left hanging, so now I have said my piece and his silence is the confirmation of the lack of interest that I had suspected on his behalf.
Live and learn...haha unfortunatley if I met another cancer I still don't think I would know how to handle them!!lol

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Virgo81
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posted April 19, 2008 12:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So got a response.....says he likes me too. This sucks! Now I don't know what to do! I have been keeping it cool...but every time he sends me a message I savour it for a bit before I reply because who knows when he will just stop returning the response and go back into his shell again...errg...and of course regardless of the long silence I had gotten from him..he has me swooning all over again...lol...atleast I expect the silence now..so will just go with flow without any major expectations and see where it goes...

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Meduza
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posted April 19, 2008 01:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How very cancerian. Don’t know what to tell you. Not very versed with cancers. Mine loves me, or at least is convinced he does, but we are caught in a stale mate which only exasperates the dance back and forth, the side walking, his sudden withdrawal after him giving air to his feelings.

At the end of the day, as much as one wants to be accommodating of people’s communication styles and idiosyncrasities, one must ask herself how much she is willing to put up with, I guess.

That’s what I am torn about. How much of this behavior I excuse and condone and where do I draw the line. I guess you have an obligation to yourself to determine how you want to be treated and how you want this to play out. I hope I am explaining myself clearly.

I guess my advice is to not do anything that wears on you and hurts you for the sake of waiting out his moods and habitual retreats. Unless, you have decided that the end result is worth it. Just think of your health, stability and happiness above all.

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Meduza
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posted April 19, 2008 01:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and I don't think you should reply immediatley every time he texts you. Let him wonder, pine a little bit.

I am not one to play games, but at this stage of your dance with him, it's fun and healthy to take things slow, to let him chase you a little. Be open and encouraging, but don't be TOO readily available. It's a fine balance.

Good luck! Keep us posted.

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silverbells
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posted April 20, 2008 06:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
celticfyre - Thanks. You know, I did not even realize that I came off as someone who nothing bothers and that it even seemed like I do not have strong feelings for the person that I am with (that was a shock). So that being the case, it seemed I was attracting men who thought they wanted intimacy but really they wanted a woman that seemed like she did not need them or something, so they did not have to be responsible or emotionally extend themselves to the point of vulnerability and real intimacy, even if they liked me a lot or loved me. And when the strong emotions made their appearance, they really made their appearance. That whole thing is such a drag. I don't know if that is the case with you but...man. IT IS A DRAG.

I had to wait for someone to come out of hiding too and adjust to my "new" characteristics.

I seem to be having better luck now that I allow myself to be more vulnerable with people who I decide are worthy of my trust. But I had to trust myself more to be able to make that call. Then I found that I was trusted more.

I've gone a bit off topic here but...hey.

*edit*
OOps Natural111 Thank you.
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Virgo81
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posted April 22, 2008 03:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So he came out of his shell and has now retreated back in after I brought up us getting together. I knew he was off this weekend and may be back into town. He had said that he missed me so I told him to make a move..and now he hasn't replied. Maybe I was too direct, or maybe he is just taking me for a ride to feed his ego. I have no choice but to admit defeat

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silverbells
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posted April 22, 2008 07:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo81 - Meduza said some very true things in her last two posts. Do consider.

It is my opinion that you just leave it alone. Shouldn't this guy care how his silences affect you...he knows that you like him yet he leaves you in silence and knows that you have no idea what is going on. Look forward to more of the same self centeredness/self-involvement if you get with him, I think.


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Meduza
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posted April 22, 2008 08:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Silver.

Virgo, with all of his dancing back and forth, at the end of the day my cancer is very open, honest and unafraid to show his feelings. I am not left wondering, second-guessing. He shows me his love, affection, etc. If that wasn’t the case, I wouldn't have tolerated the dancing as much. I mean, this sort of thing involves effort from both parties, no?

The reason why I am saying all this is because there is a diff b/n being a typical, vulnerable cancer and a typical, abrasive ******* (excuse my language). I don't know which category your guy falls under, but actions speak louder than words. Astrology aside, you have to determine what works for you. You are the one that has to decide if he is worth YOUR time or not.

By the way, if you need support, I can give you my email for correspondence.


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Virgo81
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posted April 23, 2008 11:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely agree with both of you!

I heard from him again last night. It was casual. It seems whenever I bring up us meeting it scares him away. This is a major red flag. At first I was going to tell him, but now have decided to just leave it. I know he is a smart guy and cannot be completely oblivious to what is going on here.

I appreciate the offers of support, however, I am not so hung up on this guy that I can't move on. Yes he has been taking over my thoughts and definitly has become quite the distraction, but once I decided to leave something..it is done.

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Meduza
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posted April 23, 2008 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe he is just insecure?

I dunno.

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