posted June 30, 2009 07:51 PM         

You are the glory and honor of all solar Sagittarians

Thank you for this thoughtful and timely thread and your first post.

Indeed- LIFE IS TOO SHORT.

So just say it! Just let her/him know! NOW! You never know...when it's too late, there is bound to be regret...

Let her know. Let him know!

Just, for the love of the Lord, tell her/tell him, you LOVE her/him!

What's to lose anyway? Be more optimistic for goodness'sake!

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Every night and every morn,
Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.

posted June 30, 2009 08:23 PM         

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It occured to me this afternoon, life is just too damned short. If you wanna call, then call.
If you wanna text, then text.
Go for what you want, or someone else might.
If you fear rejection, then how can you also be open to love?
If it is "the game" aww, screw that! Don't play! Don't follow the rules, and see what happens.
At least this way, you will know SOMETHING, instead of wondering.

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Aw, Gypseewind, I have been obsessing about this very issue, and here are some of my Leonine thoughts...please note that I am NOT talking about true love here, I am talking about infatuations/wanting to make out with some guy I like. In real love (which I have had and will probably have again, I think we can have many very real connections), both people feel drawn together and really LIKE each other as humans and they aren't going to be all lame like, "This guy called me too soon, he seemed too eager, therefore I'm less interested.)

In infatuations, my worry is that sometimes a guy feels LESS attracted because the woman is too "easy"--I do not mean too sexually available, but she calls him too much, or leaps at the chance to go out with him too eagerly. I think those guys are lame and I wouldn't want to have a long serious thing with one, but being newly single after a monogamous 14-year relationship, I think some of those guys are HOT and I would like to kiss them.

I feel very hopeless about attracting men and nothing I try seems to work. I thought it was because of my age or my looks, but then I started consciously sending out a vibe and got approached by a whole bunch of men I wasn't attracted to telling me I was beautiful. I feel like it is my combination of shyness and eagerness when I AM attracted to a man that either confuses or repels them these days. Because they only seem attracted when I'm not.

I agree, life's too short, and I feel very frustrated. With the man who rejected me last year (my first rejection, ouch), I feel like if I had played the game better he would've hooked up with me. And I really wanted that particular experience.

Anyway, where are the Saggie men in my life? A Saggie would help me solve this problem...you can call up a Saggie and be like, "Life's too short, I want to make out with you," and Saggie will reply, "Cool, when should I come over."

I am tired of Scorpios.

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At least this way, you will know SOMETHING, instead of wondering.

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posted June 30, 2009 10:21 PM         

I will say, though, that the times I was with my Libra ex/friend and AAAAAALMOST just told him exactly how I was feeling but didn't, I've regretted it afterward. At what point does the longing itself become the attraction, though? Does it eventually get SO STRONG that everything real is lost underneath it?

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This is how I got rejected, and I was STILL left wondering....Pisces MOon Man wouldn't even just finally reject me! He was weird and watery even about that! I still wonder. It made me doubt my intuition and left me very harmed, and it seems like that would've happened whether I'd finally tried to go for it or not, and there was nothing I could do, and nothing about me and nothing I have or am or know could help. I feel like somebody squashed me under a giant shoe.

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posted June 30, 2009 11:56 PM         

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He could be one of twenty different people depending on what day it was. I felt like a complete crazy person trying to keep up with his daily metamorphosis

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Yes!! And they were all weird! He would do things like sit really, really weirdly far away from me on a bench as if I smelled bad (I don't, and no one else has ever treated me that way, as a Cancer-stelliumed Leo, people normally like to touch me!)...then give me stormy, turbulent looks...then ask me to come to a party with him in a way that felt date-y but wasn't really a date...then cancel at the last minute with a fishy excuse...then drink 87 beers the next time he saw me and give me a wet-eyed, intense look...then have a jealous meltdown when some other guy talked to me...and NOTHING ever happened between us, and he never wanted anything to happen between us, so then why we he acting like that? Teenage boys act like that when they're in LOVE and shy and scared, and I hadn't been single since I was a teen, so I thought he was really into me but shy and unsure of my feelings, and since I was really attracted to him I thought someday we were going to hook up!! And I still have no idea why the F we didn't! Maybe I do smell.

[Aerialcircus--side note--do not blurt feelings to a Libra! It will alarm him and his response will not be true. Jump him, then if he reciprocates, make reunion love 2-3 more times and then, with Libra feeling all smug and love-making-y and romantic and afterglow-y, if you need to blurt you can blurt.]

Anyway, even with water up my wazoo and with a Pisces Moon often conjunct my Jupiter and trining my Venus, Moon, Saturn--no more Pisces Moon Men.

posted July 01, 2009 12:00 AM         

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At what point does the longing itself become the attraction, though? Does it eventually get SO STRONG that everything real is lost underneath it?

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I think this is a very profound point, at least in terms of what I'm going through.

posted July 01, 2009 02:10 PM         

ca-caw... ca-caw ..... ca-caw

in my crazy dance flapping around ...drop it low...oh yeah,,,,now back up....and looking at all of you saying.......hell yeah...thats what it do! now what?

she is right! let it do what it do, take a chance!

posted July 01, 2009 02:14 PM         

she sings at the top of her voice, people are gonna talk, and i dont care, im just gonna live my life and if you dont like it that is your problem.

when you are 80 and look back on your life, i guarantee you the first thoguht won't be, i really looked dumb calling that guy 57 years ago and asking him out.

good advise.

posted July 01, 2009 03:13 PM         

Let's say you are newly single after being monogamous with a Libra for 189 years. You are 34. The last time you were single you were 20...the last time you were REALLY, really single you were 18.

You want to be single and to have some semi-casual sex with some men you are very attracted to and excited by. Because life is short!

But you cannot get the men you REALLY lust for to have sex with you.

This has been driving me NUTS. I really don't want to "date", it's just not me, I'm very all or nothing, and I feel like men are auditioning me for the role of their wife....or, no, they are interviewing me for the JOB of their wife.

I can't find any men like the men I knew in college, who just wanted to have sex and eat pizza and stay up all night talking and cuddling and watching bad movies...the men I know my age who are cool like that, unsurprisingly, have partners. No one wants to be with me that way--and I attract a lot of guys in a lot of other ways, so I think the reason I can't get what I want or need is because I don't play the game right.

Ugh I tried "dating" a Capricorn--cute, funny, brilliant, famous--and he was sooo turned off by what I wanted....he wanted to go on dates and introduce me to his MOM and he would take me out to meet his colleagues and I felt like I was on display like a prize hunting dog, and not cause of my beauty (I'm a Leo, I might've like that), but because I'm smart and educated or good wife material or whatever...and he would not sleep with me...and then I found out that a year before, he had had a sexual fling with a friend of mine who is 12 years younger than me, and he had been really sexually aggressive with her and never introduced her to any colleagues or talked to her about his family. He had the relationship with her that I wanted, and the relationship with me that she wanted!

For me and my 8th house solar stellium, it's not that I'm into casual sex...I just want to explore that side of myself now, not in a sleazy way, but I want some guy I am wildly attracted to, who is wildly attracted to me, to come over 2-3 times a week and hang out and sleep with me and have great conversations. How do I find this? Why does it feel so hard?

posted July 01, 2009 04:16 PM         

Okay, now when you do, project a feeling of utmost confidence through your eyes. Doesn't matter if you don't really feel confident, just ACT like you are, and eventually you will become that way.

Now when you've got that feeling down, that you are the sexiest woman alive, vibe it straight at the object of your affection.

posted July 01, 2009 04:38 PM         

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I really don't want to "date", it's just not me, I'm very all or nothing

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Lucia, is this a thing with Leos? I say this because I feel the exact same way, I even word it the same way when people ask me! The only difference is - I want to be the wife now (plus the hot sex, if that isn't asking for too much), the fling/short-term relationship stage is over for me. We kind of did things in the opposite way.

I actually think this might be hard for you because of the 8th house stellium. You probably give off the serious, stable vibe because of it. I'm not 100% sure but I think you said it was in Cancer (?) if that is the case then, yeah, guys probably have the "Madonna"/Earth Mother feeling about you instead of the "***** "/fiery/wanton lady you want to project and that is what is inside. 8th house is fierce and intensely sexual but on the outside is like growth, regeneration.

So now I know the why, can someone else help out with the "how to change it" part? lol

posted July 01, 2009 11:58 PM         

My 8th: SUN-MERC (conjunct) in LEO, MARS-ADONIS-APHRODITE in VIRGO
My 7th: CUPIDO-MOON-SATURN (conjunct) in CANCER, VENUS in CANCER (Leo Cusp)...opposite my ASC in CAPRICORN

Most of my life I've gotten a lot of male attention...my vibe has been more icy than maternal (Cappie Rising.) When I was a teen there were always older guys wanting me for a trophy...most of the guys I have been with say that at first they were really intimidated by me...which is a HUGE part of what led me astray with Pisces Moon Man. He acted like those lovestruck, overawed boys from my past, but really he wasn't intimidated by all my Leo 8th house glow--he just wasn't interested!!

Gypsee--GREAT advice, now if only I could take it!!! I can re-activate my vibes and make men in the room think I'm beautiful...when I have tried to do this consciously, they approach, but NEVER men I find attractive. When I do try to turn it on a target I want, there's some kind of interference...I get shy deep in my chest, and even if I act confident and manage to exude mojo from closer to the surface, the guy seems more shocked than allured.

Sometimes I wish I could be a Sag lady! I feel like not a one of them has ever had trouble getting laid.

posted July 02, 2009 12:02 AM         

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