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Topic: how would you feel if....
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downtomars Knowflake Posts: 317 From: NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 06:30 AM
*nevermind*Live and learn... Of course it is your decision, do what feels right for you... IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Mercury Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 08:52 AM
Hey LTT, you know what? Ask yourself is it worth being with him. Then ask him where does he see your relationship with him in the long term. Then ask him what would happen if you two were in a long term relationship and the other girl expressed interest in him what would he do. As far as synastry, honestly, I wouldn't even look deeply into the synastry charts until you two have been together for at least a year. The reason I say this is because sometimes people (not all) get carried away with thinking the aspects WILL play out the way the dynasty dictates so at different times in the relationship, you are attributing experiences to the aspects. I used to do this! Eventually I have stopped looking into synastry because it was becoming too much thinking of aspects while certain scenarios were being played out. I got tired of expecting certain things to play out a certain way just because I read online that the aspect was supposed to be good. I only look at synasty in hindsight now. Also, the reason I asked which of the two of you brought up him thinking the other girl is his twin flame was two determine two things. If you asked him about it, then he was probably just being honest. Me personally, I may have worded it differently but that's just me. If he volunteered this information to you then beware! He is playing mind games with and being manipulative and "gaming" you. ------------------ Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚ Gemini Sun 24˚ Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house) Gemini Mercury 25˚ Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon) And yes, i'm a guy! IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 940 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 09:07 AM
just quit caring what everyone on here an in your life says and enjoy it while you have it, every minute of it with every part of you. it is your life and he makes you happy! for now for ever for the love of god does it really matter? some things i wouldnt miss even if it is going to hurt me in the long run. we dont know the future. love without fear if that is in your heart to do. you are really the sweetest girl and only good will come to you.IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 964 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 01:48 PM
Got Gemini, I don't know what my academic credentials would have to do with this discussion. My doctorate is in a related field, but I only work creatively now rather than academically, and I'm not trying to list "rules" as a clinician...I'm trying to explain why this guy is being an immature ass. [Also, the most insightful things I read on this topic are often by people with no clinical or academic training--you say you are not trying to make digs at me, but hinting that I don't have a right to say what I said unless I'm a trained expert is a dig. I take it as obvious that anything I write here is just my opinion, as is everything everyone else is writing here. But yes, in fact, I do have years of past professional experience working with people on related issues.]There are probably crushes that fall into categories other than the ones I listed, BUT--and here was my point--none of them are between TwinFlames. Having a crush on some girl because she is beautiful, but knowing you aren't all that compatible, is soooo different from telling your current girlfriend that the beautiful crush girl was your "Twin Flame" or "Soul Mate,"--like, "She's the ONE person I have the strongest Soul Connection to, but I can't be with her in This Lifetime because we have Different Paths, so here I am with you passing the time. Hi." If you had done that, you would've been being an ass. Calling a crush your "Twin Flame" is a way of aggrandizing unconsummated attraction into something it is not--hence, fantasy, projection, Neptune goggles. Those deep, uncomsummated crushes we have at 16? In one case, I have never loved another man more than a guy I felt that way about--we reconnected as adults and talked about the intensity of our feelings. A lot of my writing has always been about him...a lot of his work has always been about me. There are circumstances keeping us from being a couple. I still love him, and I still love everyone I've ever loved (packed Cancer 7th house here.) This does not mean I am "Twin Flames" with these guys--at the soul level, we are all infinitely flaming, and it's not limited. At the everyday level, each connection I have with each person is special and unique. To call one a "Twin Flame" would be suggesting that I have a deeper, MORE SPECIAL connection with that person--and deciding that about someone I don't really share my life with would involve fantasy, projection, and putting a spin on things, quite unneccessarily. Lots of the examples you and others are using here sound like my relationship with that guy--ie, teenage. BUT if I recall correctly from LTT's other posts, this guy is much, much older, no teenager. He's about to move in with a younger woman who worships him. (In fact, if I'm remembering right, LTT posted a thread recently asking if people thought he had Soul Mate synastry with HER.) I get the strong sense that he is using this TwinFLame thing, among other things, to keep her in his thrall by keeping her unseated and unsure of the relationship. That is a way of being controlling. It would seem like a huge red flag to me. LTT, your own intuition will help guide you here. To me, from your posts it sounds like your intuition is nudging you with red flags about the relationship, and so you are looking for reassurance here. I may be wrong--but one thing I can share from my own experience is that following your own intuition is ALWAYS the right thing to do. 100 people on the internet can tell you some guy is your "soul mate" and you have no reason to worry, or 100 people can tell you a relationship is wrong for you, and ultimately those opinions are meaningless compared to what you already know. And also I totally agree with cpn_edgar_winner...wise advice. I just think you'd already be doing that if you didn't have an uneasy feeling about the relationship. IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Mercury Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 04:14 PM
Lucia, it wasn't a dig at you, however, sometimes it seems you are incredibly quick to, in so many words, call someone delusional because they come here and express they have deep feelings for someone they aren't in a relationship with.As far as asking your academic credentials, I only asked because my father is in a related field as well and he says you really can't assess someone's mental health issues properly with the amount of information we deal with regularly in these topics. Not saying are are coming in here officially diagnosing people, but in a way, it appears that way. Sure we take what you say as your opinion, just like most of us assume everyone else's replies are their opinions. However, some of your replies come off as if you are implying explicit facts. Look, I'd rather not continue this here as this is LTT's thread and I don't want it to turn negative so if you want to continue this, email me at gotgemini@gmail.com ------------------ Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚ Gemini Sun 24˚ Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house) Gemini Mercury 25˚ Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon) And yes, i'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 964 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2009 05:14 PM
EDITED...yes, should not get too argumentative here. I will say that the comments I have posted so far are, I believe, relevent to Listens to Trees thread, and I see no reason to take the discussion to a private place. I know not everyone agrees with my opinions, and that is why I am so happy to share my perspective, as well as to read other perspectives. IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 393 From: Stonehenge Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 06:39 AM
Hello guys....everything is ok.I am listening to my own intuition. He isn't lying to me or trying to manipulate me in any way. He is a gentle, honest, pure hearted soul. All he was doing was relating an experience he had. The first time he mentioned this experience was the first time we met. We weren't involved with each other at all then. I brought up the topic of twin flames saying I wanted to know if they existed or not and to meet mine, to which he replied "no you don't", to which I enquired why and it was then that he explained that in his experience it was far too painful. It isn't true either, that I "worship" this guy. It is true however that we get along extremely well. I've never met anyone who I've felt such a complimentary soul energy connection with as this. I posted the chart on the astrology forum with my question out of simple childlike curiosity to know what it might say. I'm crap at astrology when it comes to composite charts. If anyone worships anybody, then it could be said that we worship each other. As for age...well I've always felt that age is only a number...I've never been concerned about trivialities such as that. One of my best friends is with a woman much older than he is. They are extremely suited to one another, in fact he says that they are twin flames. But I thank you for your concern. IP: Logged |
listenstotrees Knowflake Posts: 393 From: Stonehenge Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 06:44 AM
Also, the truth is we both manipulate each other. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 964 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 12:08 PM
EDITED: Lol I misread your post.IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 99 From: Mercury Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 09:32 PM
Lucia, I read your reply before you edited it and I must say it was a GREAT reply! You should'nt have edited it away! It was not argumentative at all! I was too tired to reply to it yesterday.I do want to say that I completely understand where you are coming from and sometimes agree with much of what you say. ------------------ Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚ Gemini Sun 24˚ Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house) Gemini Mercury 25˚ Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon) And yes, i'm a guy! IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 964 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 10, 2009 11:42 PM
quote: One of my best friends is with a woman much older than he is. They are extremely suited to one another, in fact he says that they are twin flames.
Got Gem, I edited my reply because I misread this line to mean that LTT's boyfriend believed that an older platonic friend was his "twin flame," just as the former colleague he had a painful and unconsummated attachment to was his "twin flame." It made him sound waaaayyyy less fantasy-oriented to me, like maybe he was using the term "twin flame" to clumsily describe the deep feeling of closeness or fatedness that each of us has to many people over the course of a lifetime. There would be no reason for his girlfriend to feel sad about that, because it would mean that she, too, could be one of his many "twin flames", along with the many people he loves platonically or loved romantically in the past. Then I reread, and understood that she was talking about another guy entirely...a platonic friend of hers. EDITED: Ohhh, Got Gem, I just realized that you were talking about the post I edited out yesterday, not my last post...misreading right and left!! I am really overheated and overtired, and should be working or sleeping. IP: Logged | |