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lexibee
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posted September 18, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexibee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been married a few short months with the most incredible
generous perfect man and I cant imagine ever doing anything to hurt
him, but I am obsessively attracted to another man I met about a year
ago. I thought the attraction would wear off, but it just grows. I
feel like i know this person, he is so familiar to me... But at the
same time, I know he cannot offer me what I need/want in my life. Can
someone please explain this attraction?

My Chart.

My Husband's chart.

The Man I cant get out of my brain:

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lexibee
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posted September 18, 2010 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexibee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
by the way,
this is the composite chart with my husband

and this is the composite chart with THE MAN

i dont know anything about astrology and any insight would be gratefully appreciated.

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oneruledbymars
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posted September 18, 2010 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We cant see anything...

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lexibee
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posted September 18, 2010 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexibee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoops, thanks mars... fixed it. didn't realize i was using temporary images!

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bunnies
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posted September 19, 2010 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I know squat about astrology but the telling part in your post is the way you describe your husband...kind, generous perfect.
And the other guy as dark and unsuitable.

A few years ago I went to a wedding and unusually, the bride made a speech. And it went something like this...

"Not only am I marrying the world's most dah de dah de dah but I'm also marrying my best friend"

Whereupon I turned to a friend and whispered
"I give it six months"
Horrible I know and my friend said the same of me.
But sadly it also turned out to be true.Exactly six months later it was over.

I don't know if you have children but if you don't, may I suggest you are going through that agenda that most women go through in that decade, and that is to find a solid, reliable male to father your children.
You probably don't argue much, life will carry on as normal, you will feel safe and cared for and when the children are old enough you will find ways to dodge having sex with your best friend.

The reason you are attracted to this other man is because he will never be your "best friend"
I think (and please don't get all squinky because it's just my opinion!) but I think husband's should never be like best mates. I think you have girlfriends for that.

Deep down all women yearn for an Alpha type male who is kind to them but who you don't see as a pal.It's evolution.
You want to see them as a protector because we have been over millions of years, programmed that way to help us survive.

This other man is never going to sit chatting peaceably with you but he will be off (metaphorically) beating off intruders.
Somehow you see this other man has a power that your lovely husband doesn't possess or doesn't demonstrate.
And that's the attraction. It's the old "wild boy" syndrome and it's as old as time...

Cue screaming from Lindalanders

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PeaceAngel
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posted September 19, 2010 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bunnies

You nailed it!

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Unmoved
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posted September 19, 2010 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bunnies- I agree completely. My best friend proposed to me. He is perfect for me, but I had to refuse.

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PlutoSquared
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posted September 19, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bunnies,

You seem to say that Alpha Males make good husbands? How is this? Alpha Males generally spread their seed all over the earth, so to speak. And generally, don't exceed at taking "care" of their children.

Just interested in hearing more of your perspective.

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posted September 19, 2010 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bunnies

lexibe, at your age be very careful with this "dark influence" of yours.

i, too, was attracted, always to the dark ones, still am, but at 48 i have had enough of the bad boys and slap myself silly when a dark one comes my way.

but you have to grow and live, without hurting anybody else along the way.

i do not get a good feel of your dark friend.

us scorpio risings can have a very, very dark vibe, and if he feels dark to you, he is.


t~~~

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bunnies
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posted September 20, 2010 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Pluto, I didn't say that Alpha males make the best husbands, what I did say is that women are attracted to that power in whatever way it manifests itself nowadays. I think sometimes people (not you) mistake the term Alpha male.

All it really means, is the male in a group of males who is the dominant one, the natural leader, the strongest and displaying the best genetics for strong offspring.

In evolutionary terms a female trying to nurture children would be better off, not with the partner who helped around the cave and brought her favourite berries when she was feeling a bit down but with the chap who could bring down an antelope with his bare hands and fiercely protect the entrance to the shelter.

An amusing illustration of this happened a few years ago during the Rugby World Cup. Normally most women wouldn't turn a hair or even notice, that is until the French team showed up.
They had in their team a giant of a man called Sebastian Chabal (6'6" long black hair, beard)and as this one journalist sniffily put it
"Looked like he'd just crawled out of a cave"
But then she said she had to go to a press conference along with some other journalists (some female)and he walked in the room and she said the effect on the women in the room was just ridiculous.

Her actual words were
"You could feel this primeval desire to mate with this man. This is not a man who would knock on your door but would take it off its hinges. And all us women went weak at the knees at the prospect"

They then showed a photograph of him bare chested holding his (actual) small baby in his giant hands and roaring at the camera.
Cue the sound of females collectively swooning!

I have put a little clip about him from You Tube below. It's a little jokey advert but it kind of sums it all up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSWRoO3U3xg

Maybe lexi feels genetically drawn to this (predominantly Leo guy!)because of genetics.
I have said in other posts I was irresistably drawn to my first husband that way. As soon as we had produced the wonderful children I knew instinctively we would, I felt no need for him anymore.
Sad but true.
That blunt explanation does not do him justice though.I am just illustrating a point.
I think Lexi's attraction to this man is based deep in her primeval DNA and not because Lilith is conjunct asteroid Passionata.....see! told you I knew squat about astrology

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bunnies
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posted September 20, 2010 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And good for you Unmoved.
You are too unique to ever settle for second best.
Safe is not the way for us sisi!

Ah hippi...how well I know that feeling.
I've always said if I could just find a man that looked Neanderthal and was the size of a barn door but whilst breaking rocks with his bare hands would be quoting Shakespeare to me....I would be one happy girl.

Anyone? Anybody? Nope....didn't think so

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hippichick
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posted September 21, 2010 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bunnies!

but can he, sigh,,please ride a Harley and recite poetry, along with Shakespeare while breaking those rocks?

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hippichick
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posted September 21, 2010 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
......then lure me into his cave (that he broke through with his bare hands....)...and candlelite, and music...sigh. again...

lol!

sorry lexibee, for jacking your thread...

silly us ladies that LUVS the dark ones!

t~~~


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posted September 21, 2010 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lonake
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posted September 21, 2010 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With your chart, I'd go for the Leo. but he is quite the excitable one, so not sure how long he'd stick around but the chart contacts are quite stunning. incl nn
The husband is more likely to stick around, but he does have internal feminine conflicts that you should be aware of, such as the vnus opp moon conj saturn, he may look for a love at the place of work that gives him the fantasy that the wife can't. In other words he has a a hard time seeing the mother of his children as a sexual being, and has a hard time thinking a sexual woman would need nurturance. Luckily you have your sun conj his moon, so that is an aid. but the venus opp moon/saturn dynamic is tough, esp considering saturn in h12.
You could use your Venus in Cancer to show him that nurturing can be sexy, that he can have both at once. And be sure to keep the fantasy element alive in the bedroom.

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lexibee
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posted February 21, 2011 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexibee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahhh... i waited a long time to check this because i was scared of what people would say. i'm always scared to face the truth.

thank you all for your responses. my marriage is troubled because of a bad sex life and poor conversational and physical chemistry. however he ADORES me so much. his quest in life is to make me happy, and i dont think anything is capable of making me happy.

recently the leo told me he was "in love" with me, and though i "love" him too, i know that even if i were single we would not be a long lasting union. so i wouldn't leave my husband for him, but i dont know if i should leave my husband just because he deserves better. i'm very afraid to be alone forever and never find happiness.

just one astrological question, if anyone can answer... what does
"incl nn" mean?

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Lucia23
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posted February 21, 2011 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like even though being alone terrifies you, that's exactly what you need to experiment with, in order to have a great life. You believe being alone will make you unhappy--but "settling" in a marriage that's sexually unfulfilling, or trying to escape your fears into a new relationship, are also unhappiness-causing.

These are huge Saturn-Return-in-the-7th-House issues. One thing some Saturn-in-the-7th women do is hide in relationships with men, so we feel like we can say our life has meaning and we're safe and not alone, and we don't have to take (necessary) risks with our careers and creative work.

You should write a list of 100 things that thrill you, other than men/relationships. Do something with your life that you think will be important and valuable to the world...as a Virgo Saturn you will not be happy unless you are serving the world.


See if therapy will help you and your husband work through the possibilities. Sometimes therapy isn't to help a couple stay together...it will help you leave each other with love and peace without doing extra harm and damage, beyond what is unavoidable.

Obviously don't get into another relationship right away, or lie, or cheat. It's already a line crossed if the Leo feels allowed to tell you he loves you, when you're married.

The ages 29-32ish are a very valuable, lucky time to CHANGE unhappy relationship patterns and find real independence and happiness.

(I think inc nn probably means "including North Node.")

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 27, 2011 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I dunno much about Astro, but that guys chart is PACKED with Leo, damn I'm curious about him now, you may not be the only woman wanting him

Then he has the Cancer Mars so there's that glimpse of sensitivity that your Cancer Venus likes

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 27, 2011 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bunnies:
Well I know squat about astrology but the telling part in your post is the way you describe your husband...kind, generous perfect.
And the other guy as dark and unsuitable.

A few years ago I went to a wedding and unusually, the bride made a speech. And it went something like this...

"Not only am I marrying the world's most dah de dah de dah but I'm also marrying my best friend"

Whereupon I turned to a friend and whispered
"I give it six months"
Horrible I know and my friend said the same of me.
But sadly it also turned out to be true.Exactly six months later it was over.

I don't know if you have children but if you don't, may I suggest you are going through that agenda that most women go through in that decade, and that is to find a solid, reliable male to father your children.
You probably don't argue much, life will carry on as normal, you will feel safe and cared for and when the children are old enough you will find ways to dodge having sex with your best friend.

The reason you are attracted to this other man is because he will never be your "best friend"
I think (and please don't get all squinky because it's just my opinion!) but I think husband's should never be like best mates. I think you have girlfriends for that.

Deep down all women yearn for an Alpha type male who is kind to them but who you don't see as a pal.It's evolution.
You want to see them as a protector because we have been over millions of years, programmed that way to help us survive.

This other man is never going to sit chatting peaceably with you but he will be off (metaphorically) beating off intruders.
Somehow you see this other man has a power that your lovely husband doesn't possess or doesn't demonstrate.
And that's the attraction. It's the old "wild boy" syndrome and it's as old as time...

Cue screaming from Lindalanders


This truly should be published. Kick a** read, Bunnies

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 27, 2011 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bunnies:
No Pluto, I didn't say that Alpha males make the best husbands, what I did say is that women are attracted to that power in whatever way it manifests itself nowadays. I think sometimes people (not you) mistake the term Alpha male.

All it really means, is the male in a group of males who is the dominant one, the natural leader, the strongest and displaying the best genetics for strong offspring.

In evolutionary terms a female trying to nurture children would be better off, not with the partner who helped around the cave and brought her favourite berries when she was feeling a bit down but with the chap who could bring down an antelope with his bare hands and fiercely protect the entrance to the shelter.

An amusing illustration of this happened a few years ago during the Rugby World Cup. Normally most women wouldn't turn a hair or even notice, that is until the French team showed up.
They had in their team a giant of a man called Sebastian Chabal (6'6" long black hair, beard)and as this one journalist sniffily put it
"Looked like he'd just crawled out of a cave"
But then she said she had to go to a press conference along with some other journalists (some female)and he walked in the room and she said the effect on the women in the room was just ridiculous.

Her actual words were
"You could feel this primeval desire to mate with this man. This is not a man who would knock on your door but would take it off its hinges. And all us women went weak at the knees at the prospect"

They then showed a photograph of him bare chested holding his (actual) small baby in his giant hands and roaring at the camera.
Cue the sound of females collectively swooning!

I have put a little clip about him from You Tube below. It's a little jokey advert but it kind of sums it all up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSWRoO3U3xg

Maybe lexi feels genetically drawn to this (predominantly Leo guy!)because of genetics.
I have said in other posts I was irresistably drawn to my first husband that way. As soon as we had produced the wonderful children I knew instinctively we would, I felt no need for him anymore.
Sad but true.
That blunt explanation does not do him justice though.I am just illustrating a point.
I think Lexi's attraction to this man is based deep in her primeval DNA and not because Lilith is conjunct asteroid Passionata.....see! told you I knew squat about astrology


Bunnies, you are becoming a friend in my head, right now! Your writing is so refreshing! What you say and how you say it are golden

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lola
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posted February 27, 2011 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ever wonder sometimes if Marriage is a falsehood, maybe both men and women are not meant to be monogamous.... i don't know i just wonder sometimes when i see the drama in relationships around me

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 27, 2011 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lola:
ever wonder sometimes if Marriage is a falsehood, maybe both men and women are not meant to be monogamous.... i don't know i just wonder sometimes when i see the drama in relationships around me

I don't think so, Lola. I think most people are together for the wrong reasons. I always thought (and still believe) a relationship with your true love should be a natural and full of serendipity.

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted February 27, 2011 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PeaceAngel:
bunnies

You nailed it!


We're not worthy! We're not worthy! LoL nice.

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the.lamb.ram
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posted March 01, 2011 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the.lamb.ram     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have nothing constructive to add but I just wanted to comment....

This is one of the best threads I've ever followed!

MORE MORE...lol

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 03, 2011 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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