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sVirgo
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posted June 12, 2005 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I liked this question asked in final round of Ms. Universe show.
As I am woman, I know what woman can learn from man which I think is that how to make money, how to be hard with children sometimes to teach them discipline, don't talk much about clothes, jewellery, what other woman doing etc.
But I don't know what man can learn about woman?
May be other woman might have learnt more good things from man.

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posted June 12, 2005 04:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about being patient. Or learning to expand and express their feelings. Perhaps respect, for it is from the woman that children come forth.

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sVirgo
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posted June 12, 2005 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that's very nice.
As I am not in man body, I never felt that do man learn anything from woman.

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Randall
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posted June 13, 2005 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How to nod and act like we're listening.

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sVirgo
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posted June 13, 2005 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is true in my case, I do daydreaming and sometimes just nod and acts like I am listening. Though I might be smiling without any reason. I thought it is Virgo thing not woman.

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future_uncertain
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posted June 13, 2005 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been kind of flipping this question around in my head for a while. If anyone is willing to indulge what may prove to be a lengthy ramble, I'll continue.

What made me wonder about this was two universal questions. (I am generalizing here for the sake of simplicity, but let it be known that I acknowledge that there is nothing universal about any point of view.)

1) Why does it happen so often that once involved in a long term relationship, there often manifests a discrepancy between the frequency of desired physical relations between men and women?

2) Why does there often become a time in the course of a long-term relationship that women begin to feel an "emptiness" that can't seem to be conveyed, and men feel a frustration as a result, all the while feeling like they are doing all they can to demonstrate their love for a woman?

I've seen these two scenarios develop often enough for me to wonder if there may be some "universal" (generalizing again) answer to these questions, and I think it's possible that they may be related.

I am wondering if it is possible that women naturally tend to sense the possibility of a certain depth of relating that men may not be predisposed to seek or be aware of. This could be biologically influenced or socially conditioned, or maybe something else that we are, as of yet, unaware.

When the discrepancy in those levels of depth register on the female radar, the sanctity of physical relations lose some of their meaning because they are then communicating from different places. Perhaps on some level, women know there is more, and once a relationship crosses that threshold for her, she is less likely to share her body with a man because she feels he isn't fully aware of what it is she is sharing.

I don't believe that the answer simply lies in the fact that men have stronger physical drives than do women. In my experience, most of these women have drives which are quite strong, but something unexplainable and intangible is holding her back.

Perhaps it is this depth of understanding and relating that women are intended to teach to men. And if the message interferes with something as powerful as physical union, then I tend to feel the message must be very important indeed.

BUT, if that's the case, then there must be some equally important lesson for men to teach women, a lesson whose mysteries may lie in the physical drive of a man. I am still pondering what this might be, I am only certain that if the former is true, so then must the latter.

While I consider myself to be a champion of female power and being, I would never believe that the male power, being and lessons would be anything less than equally important.

I apologize that this train of thought hasn't been thought out more completely and clearly. I have faith that those here understand the process of seeking answers to questions even while pieces may still be missing.

I also concede that I may be entirely off base in my pondering. I only know that this is an issue that is very dear to my heart... this chasm that arises between women and men. This may be to me the most pressing mystery of life. I feel so much pain regarding this issue, not on a personal level, (although it has touched me just as it probably has everyone at some point or another), but on a universal level-- the way this affects humanity as a whole.

All of us are either man or woman. And I don't know how these questions would play into a relationship between two men or two women, only because I have never experienced such a realationship, so I wouldn't take it upon myself to make assumptions in that area. I will only say that I do not discount these relationships by focusing on relationships between men and women.

I think it is interesting that you ask, sVirgo. I feel saddened by your feelings that women don't have anything to teach men, especially since you are a woman. I hope you are aware of your worth as such!

If anyone would like to discuss this further, I would love to hear your responses.

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sVirgo
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posted June 14, 2005 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello future_uncertain, I read what you wrote.
I didn't mean that man does not learn anything from woman. I have high regards for the birth of woman. As I know that they give birth to another life. They bring beauty, sweetness and colors in life and lot more which is uncountable.
But I was trying to hear opinions.
If I understood what you wrote is that for man, physical relationship is more important and for woman I think love comes first and then physical relationship.

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sue g
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posted June 25, 2005 04:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think men could learn to sustain the romantic side in a relationship instead of taking the woman for granted! Woman are often better at creating the magic in a partnership! I speak to a lot of women who complain of this. Also to allow their emotions to flow more freely and of course how to apply makeup perfectly LOL! xxx

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posted June 25, 2005 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Woman are often better at creating the magic in a partnership!

YES, Sue g! I agree with this. I am still pondering the meaning of this though, because it seems that the majority of women feel this way and the majority of men don't see what the big deal is.

I can't help but feel there are reasons why each gender is generally predisposed to being on one side or the other of this issue. I just don't know what they are. Do you have any thoughts on this?

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Randall
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posted June 26, 2005 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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sue g
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posted June 30, 2005 02:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Future,

How are you girl?

In answer to your question, I feel its different priorities, men often are preoccupied with work and women with other things. I remember once my husband was quiet for two days and I was worried about him. When he finally decided to open up it was about work, I thought it was something I had done! The same goes for romance - at times men dont need it as much as sex, one male friend of mine asked if I thought it okay to have sex without any foreplay - didnt that say it all, just straight in and no effort. Of course not all men are like this are they? I think when a man first pursues a woman he can be very romantic, but as time goes on this can slip away and hence the woman tries to keep it going. Having said that my Dad who has been married to my mum for over 50 years still brings her flowers every week and is romantic, although he NEVER takes her out unless she asks! Just another difference between the genders I suppose - I am coming back as a lesbian nex time ha ha - love and romance to all xxxx

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Randall
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posted July 01, 2005 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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Svetlana
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posted July 03, 2005 01:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my first post on LL but I've been "lurking" for awhile. I'm really intrigued by your question. I think as a mother a woman has a huge influence on her son/s. As a lover she can teach a man a lot about lovemaking and women's bodies and dezires. (But only if she's well aware of
it herself and that might take many years.)And as a partner she can help her man to be patient. I don't know if she can teach him that though or even should.

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elemiah
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posted July 03, 2005 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Svetlana, I´m pretty new too!!

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Randall
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posted July 03, 2005 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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Svetlana
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posted July 03, 2005 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your welcome!

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limelight
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posted July 03, 2005 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Svetlana!! lovely views!!

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Svetlana
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posted July 04, 2005 08:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Limelight thank you for your welcome.

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26taurus
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posted July 04, 2005 06:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A man can learn alot about himSelf, from a Woman.

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Randall
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posted July 05, 2005 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, Limelight!

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posted July 09, 2005 04:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TEACH ME BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL I WANNA KNOW!!!

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posted July 14, 2005 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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sue g
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posted July 18, 2005 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Changed my mind about becoming a lesbian (even in the next life LOL), met some great blokes at the weekend - one a friend of my hubbies, brilliant company!

So Thorshammer, what did you want to know then, I would be happy to enlighten you if possible!!! Always was intrigued by the male mind? So fire away.............


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Randall
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posted July 27, 2005 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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sue g
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posted July 28, 2005 07:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Randall

Thanks for the bump.

i wonder why that happens to me when I ask men questions, sometimes they run away from me or ignore me LOL. Am I too scary - what do you think?

Love


Sue xx

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