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Steph314
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posted July 23, 2014 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Cap and I (Pisces) have been together over a year. He had a heart attack on July 4th. Thank God he is doing fine. Was by his side through all of it as always. Got him home on Monday, with him on Tuesday and he is a very "I, I and I" guy. So telling everyoneon the phone the whole saga, and did not mention me once, since I was the one who said lets go to the ER. We had a couple of words and he never likes when I am right,so he put the stone face on and I asked him aabout 4 times, are we through. Had some rumblings the past couple of weeks prior. Said he did not want to talk about it. I left, but got a hug and a kiss. His family loves me and felt awful. I acutally even did a Dear John letter making it easy.totally ignored it. Just this week we are texting and I saw him on a dating site, I said is it over? He refuses to answer, he deleted his post. Bottom line is this normal? I never knew him to play games and he is always blunt? I will move on but I need some sense of this. We are not kids either, we are both 58. And we have such a good time together. I know he is scared now, but he is talking to other people, just not me. Is it normal???

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MineAgain
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posted July 23, 2014 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is.

Pisces and I were dating fine until I found out he went back on a dating website. Then he suddenly stopped answering my texts or calls and he would spend his days on it. What a coincidence!

I haven't heard from him since, nor do I care to.

Bottom line is men have a hard time rejecting people so they would rather drift away (and therefore leave the door open but leaving you high and dry in the process) then to tell you that they don't want to see you anymore.

They can be quite spineless at times.

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Steph314
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posted July 23, 2014 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. He deleted the profile on the dating site and actually texted me a few times today. But, whenever I pose the question of are we through, it totally gets ignored and he talks about something else. I am very close to being done!
Thanks so much for responding.

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usc277
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posted July 23, 2014 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for usc277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steph314:
My. So telling everyoneon the phone the whole saga, and did not mention me once, since I was the one who said lets go to the ER.

What you did was brave and thoughtful, it screams " I love you "
But as a Pisces I have a problem with people who do good and wait for the credit..does it really matter if he said "thank you"

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Steph314
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posted July 23, 2014 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I did it out of love. My issue is it is now 2 weeks since and he has not called, yet he had had company over, etc. he said he did not want me around because of the pressure of having to talk to someone.
I have asked numerous times if he wants to end it, and very nicely, and he totally avoids the question. That's why I am asking us this normal
I appreciate your response

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usc277
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posted July 23, 2014 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for usc277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steph314:
Of course I did it out of love. My issue is it is now 2 weeks since and he has not called, yet he had had company over, etc. he said he did not want me around because of the pressure of having to talk to someone.
I have asked numerous times if he wants to end it, and very nicely, and he totally avoids the question. That's why I am asking us this normal
I appreciate your response

I believe its over. He just doesn't want to be confrontational by telling you...

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Steph314
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posted July 23, 2014 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you are right. I have felt that way for about a week. It would have been nice just to hear it and be able to make sense out of it in my own head.
Thank you for your thoughts!

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posted July 23, 2014 09:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology aside, what an ungrateful **** he sounds.

Sorry I had to say it - you stood by and helped him during this crisis and now he's behaving like a prick?

I'd get on with your own life and forget him.

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Steph314
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posted July 23, 2014 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stood by him and believed him for a year JoB. He said I love you first and we have been through a few times of crisis. He would even talk about retiring together. So yes, I am pretty much done. He texted me today. I know how Cap men are, I know about then needing space, I know they disappear to reflect and all that crap. But he will not own up to what happened with us. I am assuming we are through because when I flat out asked him, he did not want to talk about it. Oh well, as his family tells him, his loss! Thanks

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posted July 24, 2014 01:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been in this exact situation where I practically begged someone to tell me it was over & they never did ..just completely ignored me. I still cannot make sense of it... Why won't they put us out of our misery and help us stop making a fool of ourself?

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Steph314
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posted July 24, 2014 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree ash20. Friends have said would I really want to go back to this person who can turn his feelings off and on like a faucet? Obviously no. And I never like to assume things, but that is the position he has put me in. The only thing I got out of him was the comment I made that final night when I said "I don't want to prove my kids right since they say you treat me like a maid." I guess the truth hurts. Oh well!
Thanks to everyone for responding, it has helped so much! Bless you all!

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MineAgain
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posted July 24, 2014 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 24, 2014 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ash20:
I have been in this exact situation where I practically begged someone to tell me it was over & they never did ..just completely ignored me. I still cannot make sense of it... Why won't they put us out of our misery and help us stop making a fool of ourself?


The same thing happened to me a couple months ago with a Pisces man. One day he mentioned "love" and literally the next day he started ignoring me. He ignored me to "let me down" but he didn't have the respect to give me closure. I don't abide by disrespect and dishonesty. Hence, to give myself some closure, I told him that as we're not looking for the same thing, it's better we stop talking. I wished him the best. I haven't heard from him since that last date anyway but I felt as though it was the best way for me to get closure and move on.

It's ridiculous and quite frankly, hurtful. I don't care that you're non-confrontational, but there are times in life when you can't just avoid dealing with others. You have to act like an adult and be honest. Why would you leave someone hanging like that when you know that telling them it's over would give them closure? It's far more hurtful to not get any closure than to get a frank break-up line.

No providing someone with the respect of closure is selfish in my opinion. Sure, telling someone it's over is quite awkward and hurtful but it's like a cut. Instant pain then a slow but sure recovery.

Tables usually turn and one day those people will feel what it feels like to be "ignored" by someone they care about.

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Steph314
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posted July 24, 2014 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Morning MineAgain!
I agree with you completely as my last relationship was with a Pisces man.
This one is a Capricorn man and I am a Pisces.

Thanks so much for writing me!💜

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posted July 24, 2014 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steph314:
Good Morning MineAgain!
I agree with you completely as my last relationship was with a Pisces man.
This one is a Capricorn man and I am a Pisces.

Thanks so much for writing me!💜


Whoops. I read it in reverse. I'm not thinking straight this morning. My apologies!

Regardless of signs, men have a hard time dealing with "rejecting" someone. I dated a Capricorn too and he disappeared on my completely after chasing me like no other man did. One day he was just gone.

I think when it comes down to "breaking up", it's mostly a man thing I gathered. They're not interested anymore, they disappear. Men like the thrill of the chase no matter they age, but when it comes down to it, they can't deal with the negative consequences.

I hope your Cap will finally start to think clearly!

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Steph314
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posted July 24, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MineAgain,
You have hit it on the head, they don't like dealing with the consequences. But isn't it funny, the cause the consequences. A friend of mine is a therapist and she said we women mourn and try to make sense of things; men generally don't want to deal, so they move on. It is easier that way. But, yes, it does hurt especially when you give 150%, and things were super in the first 9 months. Can't waste anymore time, especially at my age. 😎

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posted July 24, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for usc277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MineAgain:

it's better we stop talking. I wished him the best. I haven't heard from him since that last date anyway but I felt as though it was the best way for me to get closure and move on.

I don't care that you're non-confrontational, but there are times in life when you can't just avoid dealing with others. You have to act like an adult and be honest. Why would you leave someone hanging like that when you know that telling them it's over would give them closure? It's far more hurtful to not get any closure than to get a frank break-up line.



As most pisceans its painful for us to tell someone its over face to face..it just hurts to let a woman down like that..so its best not to tell her face a face, and avoid this whole drama

Actions speak louder than words, his actions were saying " leave me alone, I don't want you" it wasn't hard for you to get the message.

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posted July 24, 2014 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi USC277,

I am the Pisces and he is the Capricorn. I know we think with our hearts but when my heart is hurting, the head takes over as we are not fools. I took it upon myself to send the "Dear John" letter and even though he has texted a couple of times this week, he has avoided anything regarding this. I am done. Just wanted to ask if this is normal for a Cap man because they are normally so blunt and usually don't have a problem voicing anything.

Thanks for responding!!

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posted July 24, 2014 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for usc277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steph314:
Hi USC277,

I am the Pisces and he is the Capricorn. I know we think with our hearts but when my heart is hurting, the head takes over as we are not fools. I took it upon myself to send the "Dear John" letter and even though he has texted a couple of times this week, he has avoided anything regarding this. I am done. Just wanted to ask if this is normal for a Cap man because they are normally so blunt and usually don't have a problem voicing anything.

Thanks for responding!!


Not sure.. I can't stand most cap men and women. But as a fellow water, i advise you to move on and stop wasting your precious time.
You mentioned your in your 50's..the years that have passed you by are more than the ones to come ( you certainly won't live another 50 yes)..live what's left in your life free and independent.

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Steph314
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posted July 24, 2014 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes time is very precious and I am done. Onto bigger and better things!

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posted July 24, 2014 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by usc277:
As most pisceans its painful for us to tell someone its over face to face..it just hurts to let a woman down like that..so its best not to tell her face a face, and avoid this whole drama

Actions speak louder than words, his actions were saying " leave me alone, I don't want you" it wasn't hard for you to get the message.

It's just an example of how some people can behave. Courtesy isn't too much to ask, is it?

It's more of a man thing but anyway.

And I got the message. I haven't bothered him since and I never will again. But thanks for interpreting this obvious message

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posted July 24, 2014 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MineAgain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Steph314:
Hi MineAgain,
You have hit it on the head, they don't like dealing with the consequences. But isn't it funny, the cause the consequences. A friend of mine is a therapist and she said we women mourn and try to make sense of things; men generally don't want to deal, so they move on. It is easier that way. But, yes, it does hurt especially when you give 150%, and things were super in the first 9 months. Can't waste anymore time, especially at my age. 😎

Men tend to avoid dealing with things, it's true. However, they have what I call the "boomerang" syndrome. They don't deal with people/situations properly, hence they'd rather avoid the person/situation completely and move on. Then a couple months down the line, they're hit with a feeling of regret because they didn't deal with the situation at all and they try to suddenly fix what's long gone.

Women on the other hand, talk and communicate and move on.

Men bottle things up and pretend that by closing their eyes and running away, they're going to escape the matter. Well, they can only escape for so long. It always comes back to bite them. Whatever the matter is.

That's also the reason why men almost always tend to come back and women don't. Because women deal with things until completion whereas men are known for being escapists.

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Steph314
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posted July 24, 2014 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So very true. Ironically it is a year ago this week after we met, that he decided we couldn't be friends. So I did not communicate and sure enough a week later there he was, "why let a friendship go to waste?" And here we are a year later. Just don't know when it began to crumble. Went away in April, supposed to be going to 2 weddings and away again in October. His 87 yr d mom said to him that I wax the best thing that ever happened to him. Whatever. But you are so very right!

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posted July 24, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarflapjacks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he is texting you, but not answering your question about "is it over", then the answer is "No." Were you two in an Exclusive Couple relationship?

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Steph314
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posted July 24, 2014 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steph314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sugarflapjacks,
Yes we were very exclusive for a year. He even was talking about retiring together.

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