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So I read what "Kyron" said, not only about Twin Souls, but about a lot of things. Major parts that I disagree with; for example that the entire animal kingdom is here for humanity's benefit--sounds like a load of bollocks to me personally.

This is what was said about Twin Souls:

"QUESTION (30) Dear Kryon: Can you explain the difference between the terms soul mate and twin flame?

ANSWER These represent different energies, but similar attributes. Both indicate a partnership. A soul mate is a partner for life. It does not have to be a romantic one. It can be mother and daughter, or two unrelated people who team up for whatever reason. And yes, it can also be romantic. Therefore, it is a partnership energy.

The energy of a twin flame is one that's your mirror-image energy. A twin flame is one who finds the "other half" of what it is seeking in purpose. Twin-flame energy isn't necessarily a partnership issue like a soul mate is. It's more about coming together to fulfill a wholeness that's missing in potential or purpose.

A soul mate might be a partnership that's good for life, but it may not result in anything else. A twin flame has purpose behind it, driving toward a goal. Let me give you real-world examples. Your past leader Ronald Regan has a soul mate called Nancy. But the discovers of the DNA structure, Watson and Crick, were twin flames.

Sometimes twin flames are also together in love, but even if they are, that's convenient for the bigger picture... something to be accomplished together. Soul mates exist together for joy and life extension. Twin flames exist together to accomplish something that neither could do alone. They also can be both! When that happens, it's really obvious.

(From Lee: Please see Kryon Book Six, page 333, for a similar discussion. Also, Kryon gives references to St. Germain's work regarding twin-flame energy.)"

I'm not generally a fan of channeling. Most of the stuff I've looked into isn't very good. Cayce is one of the few sources that actually gave information constantly that could be verified or not--not just some generalized philosophical, feel good kind of stuff that most channeling is about.

Anyways, Cayce's guidance touched on Twin Souls and indicated that Yeshua ("Jesus") and his mother Miriam ("Mary") were Twin Souls. Also indicated that Edgar Cayce and his stenographer/secretary Gladys Davis were Twin Souls. Despite that there was a large age gap between them, and Edgar was married to a karmic Soulmate, his source pointed out how much they yearned and burned for each other. It was a real problem for both of them. They were deeply, deeply drawn to and attracted to each other in a very holistic and deep way. Gladys received much counseling via Cayce's guidance and readings to deal with this very intense connection that couldn't be fulfilled in the way they wanted it to be.

As much as I like and respect Cayce's work, at the end of the day, I'm not interested in dogma, so I do a lot of going within directly to communicate with guidance, with an emphasis on the most expanded guidance that can be attuned to and understood/translated (and I've noted, that this level rarely ever "names" itself. In fact, they seem to go out of their way to avoid such arbitrary, human, and ego oriented conventions).

So this is the short form of what I've gotten about Twin Souls: In the beginning, we have our original selves as created by either the Source or one of the Co-Creators. This self we could call our Spirit self--a vast Light Being. A percentage of Spirits got involved with what became what we now call the physical dimension--which is that consciousness level of fear, polarization/imbalance of energy, and concentrated selfishness. Some became involved because they became stuck within their own lower/slower vibratory energies, and others because they were trying to retriever their increasingly stuck siblings (and many of these, eventually became somewhat stuck themselves).

Anyways, one of the common things which happened with the Spirits who became involved directly with the physical level i.e. incarnating, etc, is that their self split into two different, but connected selves--one with a slight polarization to Yin, and one with a slight polarization to Yang.

This was a resonation with and mirroring of the physical itself, with it's common two gender scenario (i.e. the level of polarization and imbalance).

When these different but connected selves had enough of their own unique experiences--obviously that damped down some of the innate unity/Oneness consciousness between them. They became increasingly individualized, but still remained very psychically connected.

If they were, are, or became growth oriented, they would try to help each other--acting as retrievers of each other, if one side got off course, imbalanced, or the like.

Twin Souls don't always, nor even necessarily often incarnate as romantic partners. Sometimes they don't incarnate together at all--one acts as a nonphysical guide for the other incarnated. But when that is not the case, it's just as common to find them as family members, friends who can't be together for various reasons (like Edgar and Gladys), or even a seeming stranger who comes into your life briefly but leaves a lasting effect on you.

Anyways, the purpose, when they do come together is for growth--but in that sense, they are no different than any other Soul connection. It's just that the psychic and energetic connection with them tends to be much more conscious and stronger than with other Souls most of the time.

On a psychological level, when they are romantic connections, they are very strong mirrors for each other, and tend to stir up each others shadows powerfully (so that hopefully, you will work on these unconscious and repressed parts of self).

If they are contracted to be together for a length of time, and they do work on themselves individually and on the relationship, there can be a lot of mutual growth and eventual, amazing harmony.

I speak from experience. My partner of 19 years is beyond any doubt, my twin soul. The first few years were quite rough, but ultimately we had had a balancing and growth inducing effect on each other. Edgar was told by his guidance that he was a better person when his twin was in his life--both stated explicitly and as indicated in his incarnation patterns.

Here's the real kicker, and what you will rarely ever hear for most sources though. Our half of Spirit can, and often does have more than one Soul self going on in this cycle. I've met a few other Soul selves from my half of Spirit that were incarnated during this cycle.

IN turn, your Twin Soul's half of Spirit, can also have multiple Souls incarnated in this cycle, and theoretically (and speaking for actual experience), you can meet these other twin soul connections.

I've met a few from my partner's half of Spirit. But even with these, some you may feel a stronger connection to than with others--ESPECIALLY if you've had a direct incarnation with one. Direct, literal reincarnations are actually quite rare. Usually a Spirit self just creates a new and unique Soul self if it needs another human experience. Rarely do Souls want to come back directly again, once having been through it. It does happen, but it's less common than people seem to think.

Interestingly, though it's not explicitly stated, apparently this multiple twin soul connections within a single cycle also happened to Edgar. It's very obvious when reading between the lines in the case of Edgar and little Anna and later Beatrice. Edgar once said of little Anna that he felt for her in a way that he could never feel for any other person. The connection was very deep and very, very intense for him.

It's very obvious to me that Anna, Beatrice, and Gladys were all from the other half of Spirit that Edgar's half was originally part of. In turn, Anna's father, Beatrice's fiance/husband, and Edgar were all part of the same half of Spirit.

This is the account of their unusual and very touching love story, go to page 44: http://www.edgarcayce.org/uploadedFiles/member_section/Circulating_files/Circulating_Files_PDFs/Non-Medical_Circulating_Files/21820FairiesElvesElementalsGnomes%20.pdf

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Hi everyone, I wanted to update you all from the last time, I mentioned that he had contacted me after 6 years of no contact, and out of the blue, and I also knew that he was in a long term relationship with another girl. Well after a few exchanges on Social media he told me that he had actually broken up with his girlfriend. For reasons I donít know.

And i suddenly realised why he contacted me after so long. When I let him back in 2012, he approached me then as a distraction to first break up his girlfriend he had back then; I remember he was really intensely into me, but I also think he used me as way to break up with his girlfriend at the time. As soon as he told me 6 years later that he has just broken up with his current girlfriend (they were still together when he contact me, but broke up months later) it just hit me that he is following the same pattern as before; he finds me physically attractive so he uses me as a distraction to find courage to break his relationships; and a way to get over these past loves is to focus on me as it maybe was just a physical thing for him when it came to me.

So basically after realising this I felt maybe Iím just like a piece of pawn in his life, needs me for a short while until someone he truly loves
Comes along and I can be traded. It just made sense why he would contact me out of the blue, whilst he was in the relationship and happy there was absolute nothing from him, as soon as he realised he doesnít want to be in the relationship anymore; he messages me and uses me as a means of distraction.

I let him in my life the first time round, was there for him and honestly would have done anything for him. He left me to go to the other side of the world, and wanted nothing to do with me, I had to pick myself up and sort myself out emotionally and mentally; and he came back just like that and I was ready to be there for him just like that again.

This time when iI leant the broke up with his girlfriends, I kept the conversation short; and wished him all the best. I know I love him and always will, but I need to look after
My own emotional health; I know I would break if I were to physically see him, so itís good that we arenít anywhere near each other.

But there you go....and now I know... I hope Iím wiser this time...

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Raw truth can be very painful and bitter, but it also ultimately sets us free.

Hugs to you. Definitely know how it feels. Have a twin soul connection that has mostly treated me like she couldn't give two shites about me. I know deep down she (rather more so her Soul than her personality) loves me and has intense feelings for me, but she is so afraid to be vulnerable with me.

And she doesn't yet fully love herself. As is often said: hurt people, hurt, people. So very true.

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
As is often said: hurt people, hurt, people. So very true.

Hm. I never fully jived with this statement. Much rather:

ďBroken people break people.Ē

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Each time my heart was broken, I found myself being more loving.

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